At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE BIRTLES
MR T MOTTURE
MS B SWITZER
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellant | MR R HOPKINS (Appearing under the Employment Law Appeal Advice Scheme) |
For the Respondent | MR T DRACASS (of Counsel) Instructed by: B&Q Plc (HR Legal Solutions) Portswood House Eastleigh Hampshire SO53 3YX |
SUMMARY
UNFAIR DISMISSAL: Reasonableness of Dismisal
The Appellant and a manager were involved in a fight on the shop floor. Each alleges the other started it. The Appellant was suspended. After a disciplinary process he was dismissed. The manager was suspended but only for interview purposes. At the conclusion of his interview he was reinstated. Employment Tribunal in error in regarding the investigation as within the band of reasonable responses. Case remitted to the same Tribunal.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE BIRTLES
Introduction
The Material Facts
"Mr Shipley also interviewed Mr Deol and having regard to the Claimant's allegation that Mr Deol had been the aggressor he held a first step enquiry meeting with Mr Deol. He suspended Mr Deol before the commencement of this meeting. Mr Deol said that he had to raise his voice when speaking to the Claimant in the warehouse yard because the Claimant was standing further down the yard than him. Mr Shipley considered that Mr Deol's description of the incident was consistent with Mr Wheeler's account and did not feel there was any case for Mr Deol to answer. At the conclusion of the meeting he told Mr Deol that he was satisfied with his explanation and that there should be no further action."
Paragraph 14:
"Mr Shipley met with the Claimant on 19 November 2007 and told him he was not satisfied with his explanation and had decided the matter should go forward to a Step 2 formal meeting."
"In this case however the matter as reported to the Respondents was put on the basis that an employee had assaulted his manager, Mr Deol. The Respondents state that when it emerged later on interviewing the Claimant that he maintained the aggressor was Mr Deol, they responded in the same way by suspending him. The majority view of the Tribunal was that this was paying lip service to a suspension and that whilst Mr Shipley was keen to interview Mr Deol, in their view it was relatively meaningless to suspend him and carry on the interview. He was satisfied with the explanation and at the conclusion of the interview lifted the suspension. The minority member of the Tribunal considered the suspension of Mr Deol a sham."
"The majority would not go so far as to say that, the implication being that the Respondent was going through the motions. We accept that Mr Shipley certainly thought there were grounds for suspending Mr Deol as soon as he heard the allegation from the Claimant that Mr Deol was the aggressor. With hindsight he should have done exactly what he said, namely sending Mr Deol home, and revisiting the meeting on another occasion. The majority finds nothing sinister with Mr Shipley's approach. We just take issue with the mode of operating the suspension."
"All members of the Tribunal find that the Respondent did in fact hold a reasonable belief in the culpability of the Claimant."
"50. As regards the investigation the majority consider that looked at in the round it was a reasonable investigation. Certainly all relevant witnesses were interviewed and some of them on a number of occasions.
51. The majority would comment that it was unwise for Mr Gillis to delegate some further interviews to Mr Shipley because of his difficulties in attending the premises. Mr Shipley had been involved in the initial investigation and whilst Mr Shipley was not the dismisser Mr Gillis should have made more effort to deal personally with the investigation or to delegate the interview to somebody who had no part in it. However, that is an observation but we did not consider this to be an element of unfairness that would undermine a reasonable investigation. It is a minor issue on which we choose to comment."
"As regards the investigation the majority consider that looked at in the round it was a reasonable investigation. Certainly all relevant witnesses were interviewed and some of them on a number of occasions."