At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE NELSON
MRS R CHAPMAN
MR B R GIBBS
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
APPEARANCES
For the Appellant | MR PATRICK HOWARTH (Solicitor) Messrs Foot Anstey Solicitors 21 Derry's Cross Plymouth Devon PL1 2SW |
For the Respondent | MS LYDIA HYDE (Representative) |
SUMMARY
Unfair dismissal – Constructive dismissal – Dismissal/ambiguous resignation – Reason for dismissal including substantial other reason – Automatically unfair reasons
Dismissal or resignation. The interpretation of s.57A ERA 1996. Mistaken belief employee had resigned when may in fact have been a fair reason for dismissal. 1-2 months off work to care for dependants - held unreasonable under s.57A ERA. Case remitted on facts.
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE NELSON
"Today we spoke again and you wish me to terminate my employment. I do not wish to terminate my contract but I do require more time off. If this is causing you problems then you need to terminate my contract."
They also spoke on 17 January. Mr Wyeth maintained the Claimant said he had changed his mind, saying he did not mean it, that is the resignation, and explained that the delay had been caused because he had been advised to give the Claimant time to reflect on his resignation before seeking to implement it.
"By way of general observation, and having regard to the Directive and in particular the use of the words "force majeure" when referring to time off from work during working hours, we agree with the Tribunal's conclusions at paragraph 22 as to the nature of the absences contemplated in this section. The statutory right is, in our view, a right given to all employees to be permitted to take a reasonable amount of time off work during working hours in order to deal with a variety of unexpected or sudden events affecting their dependants, as defined, and in order to make any necessary longer-term arrangements for their care."
She continues in paragraph 16:
"The right to take time off to "…. provide" assistance etc. at sub-section (1)(a) does not in our view enable employees to take off in order of themselves to provide care for a sick child, beyond the reasonable amount necessary to enable them to deal with the immediate crisis."
Time off, she says, is to be permitted to enable an employee to make longer term arrangements for the care of a dependant, for example, by employing a temporary carer or making appropriate arrangement with friends or relatives.
"Subsection (1)(d) would include, for example, time off to deal with problems caused by a child-minder failing to arrive or a nursery or playgroup closing unexpectedly."
In paragraph 17 it is said that:
"The right is a right to a "reasonable" amount of time off, in order to take action which is "necessary". In determining whether action was necessary, factors to be taken into account will include, for example, the nature of the incident which has occurred, the closeness of the relationship between the employee and the particular dependant and the extent to which anyone else was available to help out."
In paragraph 18 she says:
"We consider that, in determining what is a reasonable amount of time off work, an employer should always take account of the individual circumstances of the employee seeking to exercise the right. It may be that, in the vast majority of cases, no more than a few hours or, at most, one or possibly two days would be regarded as reasonable to deal with the particular problem which has arisen. Parliament chose not to limit the entitlement to a certain amount of time per year and/or per case, as they could have done pursuant to Clause 3.2 of the Directive. It is not possible to specify maximum periods of time which are reasonable in any particular circumstances. This will depend on the individual circumstances in each case and it will always be a question of fact for a tribunal as to what was reasonable in every situation."
We agree with that decision and those paragraphs which we have set out.