At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE LADY SMITH
MISS J A GASKELL
MR P M HUNTER
(2) MRS HEATHER LOCHRANE |
APPELLANTS |
(2) DR I M DONALD |
RESPONDENTS |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the 1st Appellant | No Appearance Nor Representation |
For the 2nd Appellant For the 1st Respondent For the 2nd Respondent |
No Appearance Nor Representation No Appearance Nor Representation No Appearance Nor Representation |
Transfer
Consultation and other information
The claimants, administrative staff in a general practitioner's surgery, claimed unfair (constructive) dismissal, which failing redundancy, when the practice was transferred on their employer's retiral. The Tribunal found that they had no claim against the transferee practice since they had objected to the transfer and never entered its employment. Also, having objected to the transfer, they had no dismissal based claim against the transferor. They sought, on appeal, to overturn the Tribunal's decision under reference to the TUPE duty to inform and consult. The EAT held that it was too late for the claimants to advance a claim for compensation for a failure to do so and that the issue was otherwise irrelevant. The appeal was dismissed.
THE HONOURABLE LADY SMITH:
Preliminaries
Introduction
The issues
The Decision
The appeal
EAT Directions
Employment Tribunal directions
Sita (GB) Limited v Burton & Others [1997] IRLR 501 (EAT)
Hay v George Hanson (Building Contractors) Limited [1996] IRLR 427 (EAT)
The Facts
Claimants' case
"The Employment Tribunal erred in law in that:
The decision does not address the failure by the 2nd Respondent to comply with the duty to inform and consult thirteen weeks prior to the transfer date. Contrary to TUPE, Regulation 10, the application of the TUPE Regulations was not accepted until 17th November 2003 (eight days prior to transfer) as narrated in the Applicant's Form IT1 and as referred to in the decision letter at paragraph 9 - which failure is not refuted by the Respondents."
On our reading of them, the written submissions seek to expand on that argument in the following manner:
Firstly, the Claimants disavow any attempt to raise a new point under reference to the narrative set out in their original application. They refer to the duty to inform and consult as being a technical requirement. They assert that early October 2003 was the latest date at which there should have been consultation but that it would have been possible to do so in September.
Secondly, in a passage which refers to the Respondents but must, given the context, be meant to relate only to the first Respondents, the Claimants submit that the first Respondent failed to comply with the spirit of TUPE by deliberately misrepresenting the position as regards the applicability of TUPE. This relates back to their allegation that the first Respondents' practice manager told them, at the meeting on 12 September 2003, that TUPE would not apply.
Thirdly, they express the view that the Respondents, having failed to perform their TUPE obligations, should be held accountable.
Generally, the target of the criticisms advanced in the Claimants' written submissions is clearly the first Respondents, not the second Respondent. It is not possible to identify any specific criticism of her. There is no statement of any claim for compensation under regulation 11 of TUPE.
Respondents' case
Firstly, they found on the fact that in their application to the Employment Tribunal, the Claimants did not seek any remedy under TUPE. They sought findings of unfair dismissal. It is not now open to them to advance a new claim.
Secondly, if the reliance on the failure to consult is intended to be an aspect of the unfair dismissal claim, it is irrelevant. The claims fail because the Claimants validly objected to the transfer and no aspect of the fairness or otherwise of the procedures for giving information and consulting could have any bearing on that. The Claimants did not assert that failure to consult nullified their objections to transfer, which objections were made at a stage when they knew the factual circumstances surrounding the termination of the second Respondent's practice and, further, in circumstances where, as was evident from the terms of the letter of 5 November, they knew of the implications of TUPE.
Thirdly, they submit that the Claimants in any event, misapprehend the duty to inform and consult in suggesting that it was a duty to do so, thirteen weeks' prior to the transfer as no such requirement appears in the Regulations.
The legal principles
The legal principles to be applied appear to us to be as follows: firstly, the Claimants cannot claim that the first Respondents unfairly dismissed them unless they were employed by them. Secondly, whilst the parties to the transfer of an undertaking that is covered by TUPE have a duty to inform and consult 'affected employees' as is more fully set out in Regulation 10, that is a duty which is owed by them only to their own employees. Accordingly, the first Respondents owed no duty to the Claimants to inform and consult if they did not employ them. The duty to inform and consult applies as between employer and employee's representatives. Regulation 10 makes provision for the election of employee representatives in a case where appropriate representatives do not already exist and in the event of employees failing to elect a representative, for the duty to apply as between employer and individual employees. Thirdly, employees of the transferor employee in a transfer covered by TUPE, are entitled to object to being transferred into the employment of the transferee (see: Regulation 5(4A)). Fourthly, where an employee so objects, his contract of employment is terminated when the transfer is effected and he cannot, for any purpose, be treated as having been dismissed (see:Regulation 5 (4B)). Fifthly, contrary to what is suggested by the Claimants, there is no stated requirement for the informing and consulting provided for to take place at least thirteen weeks prior to the date of transfer.
Discussion:
We begin by observing that it was not argued before the Employment Tribunal that either Respondent had failed in its TUPE duty to inform and consult. No claim for compensation under Regulation 11 of TUPE was presented nor was it suggested that such failure had occurred or had any relevance to the issues under discussion.
Having given careful consideration to the terms of the original applications and to the terms of the Notice of Appeal, we are not satisfied that the former can be regarded as a claim for compensation under Regulation 11 of TUPE or that it would be appropriate to allow such a claim to be advanced at this late stage. We are not even sure that the Claimants do seek to do so.
However, for the avoidance of doubt, we consider that the layout and content of the original applications is clear. Box 1 is where the nature of the complaint made must, as a matter of fair notice to the Respondents, be specified. We not see that the Claimants could have been in any doubt about that or, indeed, about the importance of specifying the nature of their claim accurately; we note, for instance, that by letters dated 21 June 2004, they wrote seeking leave to amend the final date of their employment. We note the reference in the Claimants' written submission to the narrative but we are not prepared to regard what is said there as being notification of a claim for compensation for failure to inform and consult.
Further, we note that the Notice of Appeal does not state such a claim either. It goes only as far as submitting that the Employment Tribunal failed to address the failure to inform and consult without going further and stating that compensation would be due to them in respect of any such failure, perhaps borne of an awareness that no such claim had ever been advanced.
Turning then to the question of whether an allegation of failure to inform and consult is relevantly made, we are not satisfied that it is. Firstly, as we have already observed, the thrust of the allegations of that failure are directed at the first Respondents. The Claimants do not though seek to overturn the Tribunal's finding that they were not, at any time, employed by the first Respondents. In those circumstances, the first Respondents cannot be said to have owed them any duty under TUPE to inform and consult with them at all. As we have already explained, as transferees, they owed no such duties to the transferor's employees.
Secondly, the Claimants do not seek to overturn the Tribunal's finding that they validly objected to being transferred. The effect of that is, as we have observed, that the Claimants can have no claim against the second Respondent on any dismissal ground (which would include redundancy). The position is, accordingly, that, whatever the nature or degree of informing and consulting achieved, there was always going to be the objection by the Claimants and they were always, accordingly, going to be barred from making any dismissal based claim against the second Respondent. In these circumstances, we cannot see that questions of the giving of information and consultation were of any relevance to the matters that the Tribunal had to consider or that they are of any relevance now.
We would also observe, in passing, that the Claimants' complaints regarding the failure to inform and consult fail to recognise that the duty imposed by Regulation 10 is, in the first place, a duty to consult with employee's representatives, as defined by Regulation 10(2A). They have not addressed the question of whether there was an employee representative who qualified under those provisions or recognised that, if there was not, it would only have been on the failure of an election under Regulation 10(10A) that the employer's duty to inform and consult would be owed to an individual employee (see: Regulation 10(8A)).
Conclusions