At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE ANSELL
MS B SWITZER
MR S YEBOAH
APPELLANT | |
(2) MR C MCGRATH (BROOKSBY MELTON COLLEGE) |
RESPONDENTS |
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MR D THORPE (the Appellant in Person) |
For Mr K Dul For Brooksby Melton College |
MR HORAN (of Counsel) Instructed by: Melton Citizens Bureau 9 Burton Street Melton Mowbray Leicestershire LE13 1AE MR C McGRATH (Representative) |
SUMMARY
Contract of Employment
Modern contract of employment of apprenticeship. Contract of employment or training.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE ANSELL
"64. On the available evidence, it is clear to us that the MAA [the Modern Apprenticeship Agreement] in this case is not a contract of apprenticeship in the traditional sense and as described in Dunk v George Waller & Sons Ltd."
Later on they said this:
"65. In our judgment, the MAA is something different. We accept Mr. Sheldon's submission that the MAA and the scheme on which it is based is a combination of training and job experience. Whilst in no sense conclusive, it is notable that the word "training" is predominant throughout the MAA and that the funding for it is provided by the TEC.
66. Whilst it is possible that there was a contract of employment between Mr. Larrington and Mr. Dul … it is equally clear to us that the MAA itself is not a contract of employment between Mr. Larrington and Mr. Dul. ... However, the employer did not pay the trainee: the funds for paying him came from the LSC through the college.
That was clearly an error of fact and is acknowledged as such today, that no monies came from the Council or from the college to the employer to cover the cost of remuneration. Although the college did obtain funds from the government to support this scheme, those monies, it appears, were used entirely on providing the training in-house by the college.
"67. … were potential employers to be found liable to reimburse modern apprentices for the notional loss of income for the remaining period of the apprenticeship, and were they to be liable for damages for breach of contract, this would have a serious effect on the take up rates for the scheme."
We appreciate that comment but of course our duty here is to define whether or not it falls within an established employer/employee relationship.
"2. On or about 30th March 2001 the Respondent was made redundant by RLH and dismissed from his employment."
Again, clear evidence that that was how Mr Larrington and indeed Mr Thorpe regarded Mr Dul. The Tribunal came to the conclusion, at paragraph 9 that:
"9. … Whilst there is a training element in the relationship, we are quite satisfied that it is overwhelmingly a relationship of employer/employee and that the applicant was from the start an employee of Mr Larrington and at the time of his dismissal of Mr Thorpe."