At the Tribunal | |
On 30 April 2003 | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J BURKE QC
MS S R CORBY
MR J R CROSBY
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MR JONATHAN SWIFT (of Counsel) Instructed by: Eversheds Cloth Hall Court Infirmary Street Leeds LS1 2JB |
For the Respondent | No appearance or representation by or on behalf of the Respondent |
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J BURKE QC
The facts
The Tribunal's Decision
"1 Firstly, that the Respondent overly relied on the identification evidence of Mr Dixon. This was not conclusive; it was from a distance. He had not seen the Applicant for a long enough amount of time. He did not take a photograph. He did not go into the shop and challenge the person who was thought to be the Applicant and as the case proceeded this became the most critical bit of evidence.
2. The second ground on which we considered it was not adequate was that the Respondents did not make sufficient enquiries as to who else might have been involved. They simply sought to back up their theory that it was Mr Hussain which they had formed based on phone call evidence which the Respondents later chose not to rely on as it became apparently less reliable than they had initially thought…….
3. Thirdly the Respondent did not follow up sufficiently any of the points ventured by the Applicant, i.e. that he dropped his brother off at a certain time, that he worked at a garage at certain times, which went to proving he did not work at Gino's."
The Appeal
1) An order had been placed on 16 October 2001 purportedly by Mr P for goods of a high value for delivery to an address which was outside Mr P's home area and was the address of Gino's Pizza.
2) Another order had been placed on 24 October, purportedly by Mr P, for goods of a high value for delivery to the same address.
3) Neither order had been placed by Mr P.
4) Mr Hussain had had access to Mr P's security code when he took Mr P's genuine order of 24 August.
5) The purported customer who gave the two orders also gave the telephone number of Gino's Pizza.
6) Mr Hussain lived round the corner from Gino's Pizza.
7) Mr Dixon saw Mr Hussain on 25 October firstly at Grattan's premises and secondly, twice, in circumstances which indicated that he was working at Gino's Pizza and had made a statement to that effect which was before the disciplinary hearing.
" "The band or range of reasonable responses" approach to the issue of the reasonableness or unreasonableness of a dismissal, as expounded by Browne-Wilkinson J in Iceland Frozen Foods Ltd v Jones …… and as approved and applied by this court ……. remain binding on this court, as well as on the employment tribunals and the Employment Appeal Tribunal. The disapproval of that approach in Haddon -v- Van den Bergh Foods Ltd ........ is an unwarranted departure from binding authority."
In a further important passage at pages 1292H to 1293C Mummery LJ said:
"It was also made clear in Iceland Frozen Foods Ltd ……. That the members of the tribunal must not simply consider whether they personally think that the dismissal is fair and they must not substitute their decision as to what was the right course to adopt for that of the employer. Their proper function is to determine whether the decision to dismiss the employee fell within the band of reasonable responses "which a reasonable employer might have adopted".
In one sense it is true that, if the application of that approach leads the members of the tribunal to conclude that the dismissal was unfair, they are in effect substituting their judgment for that of the employer; But that process must always be conducted by reference to the objective standards of the hypothetical reasonable employer which are imported by the statutory references to "reasonably or unreasonably" and not by reference to their own subjective view of what they would in fact have done as an employer in the same circumstances. In other words, although the members of the tribunal can substitute their decision for that of the employer, that decision must not be reached by a process of substituting themselves for the employer and forming an opinion of what they would have done had they been the employer, which they were not."
"28 …….. the test applied by the majority in the employment tribunal and, I also think, by the dissenting Chairman was that laid down by the Employment Appeal Tribunal in Madden. Applying that test, the majority considered that the investigation was not reasonable. They arrived at that conclusion by substituting their own opinion as to what was a reasonable and adequate investigation, instead of applying, as was required by the Court of Appeal in the subsequent decision reversing the appeal tribunal's decision in Madden, the objective standard of the reasonable employer as to what was a reasonable investigation.
29 The employment tribunal were understandably faced with a confusing statement of the law as between, on the one hand, the long established approach laid down by Arnold J in the employment appeal tribunal in Burchell, and, on the other hand the more recent decisions of the employment appeal tribunal in Haddon and Madden. I had hoped that that confusion would have been removed by the subsequent decision of the Court of Appeal on the appeal in Madden and that it had been clear in the judgments that it was necessary to apply the objective standards of the reasonable employer to all aspects of the question whether the employee had been fairly and reasonably dismissed. Unfortunately, it appears that the law has not been made as clear as it should have been, since experienced members of the employment appeal tribunal had in this case interpreted what was said in Madden, in relation to the objective standards of reasonableness and the range of reasonable responses test, as not applying to the question whether an investigation into the alleged or suspected misconduct was reasonable in the circumstances of the case.
30 In my judgment the employment appeal tribunal has not correctly interpreted the impact of the decision of the Court of Appeal in Madden. The range of reasonable responses test or, to put it another way, the need to apply the objective standards of the reasonable employer applies as much to the question whether the investigation into the suspected misconduct was reasonable in all the circumstances, as it does to the reasonableness of the decision to dismiss for the conduct reason. …….
32 In suggesting further investigations of the kind set out in paragraph 6 of the extended reasons, the majority of the employment tribunal were, in my judgment, substituting their own standards of what was an adequate investigation for the standard that could be objectively expected of the reasonable employer. On the decision of this Court in Madden, that is not the correct approach to the reasonableness of an investigation."
Conclusion