At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J BURKE QC
MR M CLANCY
MISS C HOLROYD
3) MR G D BALDWIN |
APPELLANT |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MISS BARCLAY (Solicitor-Advocate) Instructed by: Free Representation Unit Peer House 4th Floor 8-14 Verulam Street London WC1X 8LZ |
For the Respondent | MR CHRISTOPHER WALKER (Of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Wacks Caller Steam Packet House 76 Cross Street Manchester M2 4JU |
HIS HONOUR JUDGE BURKE QC
"My employment with Manpower at Xerox Micheldean was terminated on 10 August 2001. Twenty eight days has now lapsed so could you send me my P45 and my redundancy payment."
On 10 September the Respondents replied saying that the Appellants' positions were no longer available due to the downturn in demand at Xerox and setting out a calculation of what they described as a notice payment; but the Tribunal found, and plainly correctly from the figures, found it to be a calculation of the redundancy payments which the Respondents were accepting that they should pay and which were indeed paid in appropriate sums.
"In summary the reason why we find this to be an erroneous decision is that the Tribunal based its conclusion of resignation on a request for a P45 in a letter. The letter cannot itself be construed as a letter of resignation. The request for a P45, whether made in a letter or orally, is not itself clear evidence of a resignation. A P45 is needed whenever there is a cesser of employment. Employment may cease by reason of dismissal. It may cease by reason of resignation. The mere request for a P45 is ambivalent."
"It is important to note, first that the section does not require the notice to be in writing; it is sufficient if it is an oral notice. Secondly, in our view, it is important to remember that these statutory requirements must be viewed in the context of the matters in respect of which Parliament was legislating. It is our view that it would not be right to attribute to such a notice, as required by that section, the same kind of formality as, for instance, is required when a landlord seeks to determine the tenancy of his tenant. But the vitally important factor here is the request, at the time of the offer to give the notice for return of the P45. Quite plainly the request for the P45 indicated, and was understood to indicate, that the employment was being terminated in respect of each man. Where therefore the industrial tribunal were faced with what was the statement by one of the employees that they offered to give their notice, coupled at the same time with a request for a P45 which was in effect a determination of that contract, it seems to this appeal tribunal that the majority of the industrial tribunal were entitled to find that what took place between Mr Race and Mr Carr was in effect the giving of a notice within the meaning of section 6(3)(a) of the Act."
We should comment that that passage indicates, by reference to what was open to the Tribunal, that the question of whether a letter such as that in that case or letters such as those in this case amounted to resignation is also primarily a question of fact. What is clear from these two cases is that, where a letter of the type written in this case falls to be considered and a P45 is requested, the Tribunal has to consider the effect of the letter and of a request for a P45 in the particular context in which the letter and the request are made. In this case the Tribunal had to resolve the issue as to resignation by taking into account the context of the particular circumstances which applied in that context, namely that the Appellants were laid off and, unless they sought a redundancy payment by triggering the Chapter III of Part XI procedure, they could not obtain redundancy payments and either had to go off and seek other employment without redundancy payments or had to remain in employment with the Respondents for as long as it took for another assignment to turn up in a situation in which, as the Tribunal found on the evidence, the prospects of such work were extremely poor. While outside that context the letters of 7 September might not be readily taken as letters conveying resignation, in that special context, in which the Appellants had been advised as to the process by which redundancy payments could be obtained which process necessarily involved a resignation, it was open to the Tribunal, in our judgment, to decide on the facts that those letters did contain or constitute resignation.