At the Tribunal | |
On 5 March 2002 | |
Before
MR COMMISSIONER HOWELL QC
MR D CHADWICK
LORD DAVIES OF COITY CBE
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MISS MELANIE TETHER (of Counsel) Instructed By: Mr Guy Bredenkamp Messrs Eversheds Solicitors Sun Alliance House 35 Mosley Street Newcastle Upon Tyne NE1 1XX |
For the Respondent | MISS HELEN GOWER (of Counsel) Instructed By: Mr David Hesselberth Messrs Ward Hadaway Solicitors Sandgate House Quayside Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 3DX |
MR COMMISSIONER HOWELL QC:
"Unfortunately his reputation amongst the plant team is not as positive. He is not seen as a member of the team …
His dislike for routine and failure to maintain standards of housekeeping and confidentiality of information are a liability … He requires constant reminders and supervision which are not acceptable in a person at Level 7.
Eric is a plant resource and must act as such. There will have to be a significant change in his behaviour and contribution to the plant if he is to retain his position. …"
"It is important that you understand that we expect an immediate improvement in your standard of performance. This warning will be placed on your personal file and will last for a period of 10 months. During this time your performance will be monitored. Should you demonstrate any further failures to meet the Company performance standards during this time, this will result in the application of the next stage of the Disciplinary Procedure, that being dismissal."
"The reason for the dismissal
18 This was not a case where the reason for dismissal was clear, and the Tribunal spent some time considering the matter.
19 The respondent asserted that the reason was the applicant's capability, citing a long history of problems, the fact that the applicant was the subject of a 'live' final written warning and that his behaviour had been one of the factors which had led to disciplinary action being taken against him.
20 The event which 'triggered' the dismissal was the applicant's conduct at the meeting of 24 March. John Francis investigated the matter and found that the applicant had said 'Bollocks to team work' and directed this comment at Louise Patterson. If it was not for this event, the applicant would not have been dismissed on 30 March 2000.
21 This falls squarely under the heading of conduct. The Tribunal do not however consider this to be a case where because the respondent has said that they dismiss for capability, the dismissal is unfair without any further investigations.
22 There is some overlap in this case which needs to be considered. This however can be considered when determining the section 98(4) issue of fairness.
23 The Tribunal considered the possibility that capability was the real reason for dismissal as it was clearly an important factor in the dismisser's mind. The Tribunal, however considered that the actual time of dismissal and what directly caused the dismissal would enable the reason to be identified."
"24 … In doing so we did not consider what we might have done in the same circumstances and we considered 'equity and the substantial merits of the case' bearing in mind the size and administrative resources of this large employer which has an on-site human resources manager and a national human resources department."
They then said they considered whether the Applicant's previous problems could be regarded as misconduct, and said:
"25 … Whilst there may be circumstances in which conduct and capability are difficult to distinguish, in this case, the Tribunal are satisfied that the overwhelming majority of matters which were the cause of disciplinary action against the applicant were pure performance issues which would fall under the heading of capability.
26 The 'behaviour' mentioned was not of the same kind as the outburst which led to dismissal. …
27 The Tribunal also considered that the respondents were to some extent trying to make the crime fit the punishment rather than the other way around."
"33 … Taking a broad view of the facts of this case and considering the reason for the dismissal, the size of the employer and the applicant's length of service the decision to dismiss was not within the band of reasonable responses which a reasonable employer might have adopted".