At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE BELL
MR A D TUFFIN CBE
MISS S M WILSON CBE
(2) MR A RUDD |
APPELLANT |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MR ANTHONY HOWARD (of Counsel) Instructed By: Wilkinson Woodward 11 Fountain Street Halifax HX1 1LU |
For the Respondent | MISS C GRUNDY (of Counsel) Instructed By: Watsons 33/39 Railway Road Darwen Lancashire BB3 2RL |
MR JUSTICE BELL:
"8. What are the facts in this case? First of all what was the business, what was the undertaking that JDT was carrying on? The undertaking that they were carrying on was the collection and disposal of waste oils. To carry on that undertaking they required a number of things and one of the items that was required were vehicles and a workforce. When JDT ceased to trade, the workforce were made redundant, the vehicles primarily belonged to finance companies. FM Collections, which set off on Monday to carry on collecting and disposal of the waste oils, did not have the wherewithal to collect and dispose. They had the contracts. They had the arrangements with Asda and the other customers but what they did not have were the means of fulfilling the contract. They made an arrangement with Mr Smith, the Managing Director of Ashworths, whereby they could have the means of carrying on the collection. They could have the vehicles. They could have the men.
9. Did that amount to a transfer of undertaking? The Regulations do say that the transfer does not have to be in one go. It can be a series of arrangements that relate to the transfer. We have to look at the reality of what happened on 11 November (October) and see whether there was a transfer under the terms of the Regulations as clarified, that is the intention at least, in many cases which have come before the Tribunals in this country and indeed the European Court.
10. As I have already said, the undertaking was clearly the collection and disposal of oil. Did that undertaking transfer and if so to whom? Yes it did transfer. It transferred to FM Collections. Did any part of the undertaking transfer to Ashworths? In our view it did not. The fact that three of the employees of JDT were subsequently employed by Ashworths to deliver a service to FM Collections is not in itself a transfer, nor is the transfer of one vehicle on a regular basis and another for a couple of days a transfer. That is a moving of assets. It is not a transfer of the business. A moving of assets might be indicative of a transfer of business in certain circumstances and this has been found on many occasions by the authorities to which I have just alluded.
11. The business that was transferred in this case was the collection of the oil and the disposal of the oil and that business was transferred not to Ashworths. It was transferred to FM Collections. All that happened so far as the employees were concerned was that they were told that they could have work and they could have work on Ashworths' terms on a temporary basis pending FM Collections sorting themselves out with their customers. In the view of the Tribunal that was not a transfer.
12. On the face of it we can understand why the Applicants, advised by Mr Dyson (their solicitor), commenced the proceedings which they did. So far as the Applicants were concerned on the Friday they were driving lorries to customers of JDT. They were collecting oil. They were delivering it to Ashworths. On Monday they were driving vehicles belonging to Ashworths, collecting oil and delivering it to Ashworths and on first sight I would not be at all surprised if in those circumstances the Applicants believed that there was a transfer and indeed Mr Dyson believed there was a transfer. However, when one looks at the facts as set out in the extensive bundle of documents which has been put before the Tribunal and the facts, largely unchallenged, as set out in the witness statements from Mr Smith and Mr Gibson, we would find it very hard for anybody to conclude that there had indeed been such a transfer.
13. Therefore the unanimous decision of the Tribunal is that the events which occurred between 8 and 11 October did not amount to a transfer of undertaking to Ashworths. As they did not amount to a transfer of undertaking to Ashworths, the two Applicants began their working life anew, as one might say, on 11 October. They entered into new contracts of employment with Ashworths on that date. Their continuity of service began on that date."
"must contain an outline of the story which has given rise to the complaint and a summary of the tribunal's basic factual conclusions and a statement of the reasons which have led them to [their conclusion]. The parties are entitled to be told why they have won or lost".
"FM …. had the contracts, they had the arrangements with Asda and the other customers but what they did not have were the means of fulfilling the contract."
" Either Mr Wallbank or Miss Warrington told the three drivers (the two Applicants and Mr Cameron) that although their employment with JDT had come to an end ….."