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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE LORD JOHNSTON
MR A J RAMSDEN
Ms A E ROBERTSON
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellants | Mr B Napier, Queen's Counsel Instructed by- Messrs McGrigor Donald Solicitors Pacific House 70 Wellington Street GLASGOW G2 6SB |
For the Respondent | Mr G Bathgate, Solicitor Of- Messrs Allan McDougall Solicitors 3 Coates Crescent EDINBURGH EH3 7AL |
LORD JOHNSTON:
"However, on other matters the Tribunal nothwithstanding considerable deliberation, was divided in its decision. In the opinion of the Majority the Applicant was unfairly dismissed. The Minority view was that the dismissal of the Applicant was fair.
At the request of the Chairman, the Members in the Minority expressed their opinions in writing as follows:
One member wrote:-
"I believe a reasonable employer would have attempted to establish in a more thorough and professional manner the specific reasons why, such a senior employee as JJ Lindsay had suddenly gone off the rails.
JJ Lindsay, who had nearly 10 years service with the company had an unblemished record, was a highly regarded excellent employee and further according to the Managing Director, Mr Lindsay had a high level of commitment to the company, but over a short period in time had changed to an employee who had become insubordinate, un-cooperative, and according to the respondents had breached his contract of employment and was guilty of serious misconduct.
According to the respondents the reason for Mr JJ Lindsay's intransigence attitude was simply that he had refused to work overtime because he:-
(a) Felt that he had worked enough unpaid overtime
(b) Demanded that his manager Mr Brian Cumming define what was considered a reasonable amount of overtime.
(c) Believed that another supervisor at a similar level to him was being paid for overtime worked.
(d) Had taken a stance against working any further overtime.
I believe it is an established fact, from the evidence led, that at the early stages of this conflict between Mr Lindsay and his Manager Mr Cumming, Mr Lindsay did hold the view that another supervisor on a similar level to him was being paid for overtime worked, however, at the time of Mr Lindsay' appeal to Mr Micheal Cook against 'The First and Final Written Warning' that this view had altered and he (Mr Lindsay) no longer believed that other members of supervision were being paid for their overtime.
It is my belief from all the evidence that the respondents did not act reasonable in that they did not conduct a proper investigation into:-
(1) The level of overtime claimed to have been worked by Mr JJ Lindsay
(2) Mr Lindsay's claim that he was going on holiday to England on the second occasion he was unavailable and unable to work overtime on the weekend of the 23 and 24 September
(3) Mr Lindsay's claim that his son was ill on the third occasion he was unavailable and unable to work overtime week beginning 2nd October
(4) What was the impact if any, in Mr Lindsay's attitude or alleged stance in the light of his change of view that other supervision were being paid for overtime working
A reasonable employer would have established at the appeal hearing or at the disciplinary interview prior to his dismissal, what were Mr Lindsay's genuine future intentions in respect of overtime working and his commitment to honouring the contractual obligations in order to establish beyond reasonable doubt that this alleged breach of contract would continue
This employer was hasty in reacting to Mr Lindsay' alleged contract breach, any reasonable employer would have attempted to conciliate in this conflict and would have been much slower to arrive at the conclusion, as did this employer. Soapworks Ltd did not allow sufficient time for Mr Lindsay to remedy the alleged breach of contract. It is also my view that Soapworks Ltd decided to rid themselves of this employee who had become in their view troublesome.
Considering all these factors for the above reasons I conclude that this employer's procedure was flawed and consequently the sanction used by Soapworks Ltd of dismissing Mr JJ Lindsay was UNFAIR."
The other member in the Majority in support of his decision that the Applicant was unfairly dismissed made the following points:
(a) When the Applicant asked for 'reasonable overtime' to be defined a reasonable employer would have addressed that issue and defused the situation. A failure to do so set the scene for the events which followed culminating with the Applicant's dismissal.
(b) Mr Cumming did not allow the Applicant time to react to the written warning and instead pressurised him to work overtime.
(c) Mr Cumming pursued the Applicant and formally asked him to work overtime on the weekends of 16/17th when he had personal commitments and on 23/24 September 2000 when he knew that the Applicant would be on holiday with his family. Also Mc Cumming made no personal effort to help with the cycle counting.
(d) During the month of conflict the Applicant had said that he worked overtime and personally covered for members of staff that were on holiday and had worked overtime on the day of his dismissal.
(e) Mr Cumming made no effort to hand over the disciplinary process to another manager though his relationship with the Applicant had broken down.
(f) On matters of conflicting evidence the Applicant's version was preferred.
The Chairman was unable to agree with the views expressed by the Majority. He noted that the Applicant advanced several contentious claims. Firstly, that he worked excessive overtime. Secondly, that he made known the hours he worked to Mr Cumming. Thirdly that since January he was in open discussion with his Managing Director, Mr Zadruzynski. Fourthly, and most importantly his assertion that he told Mr Cumming that he could not work overtime in September 2000, for reason of personal commitments, and, in the week commencing 2/10/2000, because he had to look after his son who was ill and off school.
In the opinion of the Chairman, if as claimed by the Applicant his complaint of excessive overtime was not addressed by his line manager Mr Cumming, and, over a prolonged period of time he chose to work excessive overtime because he believed it necessary, it is inconceivable that he would not have raised the matter formally with Mr Cumming's superiors. Particularly, as he claimed to have previously raised the matter with his Managing Director, who advised him to discuss the matter with his Manager. Furthermore, if the Applicant's account is accurate, and the matter was not resolved to his satisfaction, it is difficult to understand why he did not raise a formal grievance, as he was invited to do; or at the very least keep a record of the overtime hours worked to support his claim for additional payment. Mr Cumming disputed having knowledge of the overtime hours worked by the Applicant and significantly both he and Mr Zadruzynski rejected the assertion that they had been in open negotiation with the Applicant throughout the year. However, as pointed out by Mr Mc Kay, the Applicant's post overtime hours was not the reason given by him for refusing to work overtime.
The core issue is the very serious evidential conflict between Mr Cumming and the Applicant as to whether or not the Applicant advanced reasons for his refusal to work overtime. Regrettably, the issue of credibility is starkly raised and there is no room for misunderstanding or honest error. In the opinion of the Chairman there was ample evidence from the testimony of Mr Cumming, supported by documents and other witnesses, to allow at each stage of the disciplinary process, management to conclude that they preferred the account given by Mr Cumming. Of particular weight is the fact that the Applicant, at the appropriate time, failed to tell Mr Cook, and his own union representative, that he had given to Mr Cumming on four occasions a valid explanation for not working overtime; and that Mr Cumming had persisted in pursuing the matter. Quite apart from the core issue of credibility it seemed to the Chairman, that, the Applicant, perhaps, because he was under the erroneous belief that another Supervisor was being paid for overtime, had taken a stubborn and insubordinate attitude towards his Manager Mr Cumming, that challenged his authority, and clearly could not continue. Unfortunately though issued with a Final Written Warning his attitude, according to Mr Cumming, did not change. A reasonable investigation had taken place, and it was open to the Respondents to reject the Applicant's version of events, and, on reasonable grounds to hold a genuine belief of his guilt. The standard of proof is of course on the balance of probability and not beyond reasonable doubt. It is of course quite possible that another employer may have chosen to deal with the matter differently. However, that is irrelevant. The correct test to be applied – as previously stated - is whether a reasonable employer acting reasonable could have reached the same decision as the Respondents. In other words did the decision fall within the band of reasonable responses of a reasonable employer. With respect to his colleagues, it is the considered opinion of the Chairman that dismissal of the Applicant was an option open to the Respondents, and that the Majority have substituted their view of how the matter should have been dealt with for that of the employer. The Chairman is also of the opinion, that an investigation into the hours the Applicant claimed to have previously worked; whether or not he had visited England; or the dates when his son was off school, would not have been helpful in resolving the credibility issue between the Applicant and Mr Cumming. Looking at the whole circumstances, he concluded that the Respondents did sufficient to meet the statutory test of fairness set out at section 98(4) of the Employment Rights Act 1996.
"9. The other member in the majority again thought the employer should have done more both to investigate and conciliate. And the Chairman notes (p.22, line 43) the member's view that "On matters of conflicting evidence the Applicant's version was preferred."
10. There are several objections to this reasoning, each of which is in itself fatal to the majority's finding of unfair dismissal:
- The first lay Member's reasoning is partly based on a wholly irrelevant criterion. Question of future intentions and whether breach of contract would continue has nothing to do with whether the dismissal was fair.
- Both lay members were clearly substituting their views, saying what they think should have been the outcome. That is a fair reading of the particular criticisms they make despite the odd reference to "any reasonable employer".
- The correct approach is relation to investigations for misconduct has recently been clarified in the recent decision of the CA: Whitbread v Hall [2001] IRLR 275, CA. The headnote reads "the tribunal should not simply ask whether dismissal fell within the band of reasonable responses but also apply that test to the procedure used in reaching the decision to dismiss". Per Lady Justice Hale at para.16 "Section 98(4) requires the tribunal to determine whether the employer acted reasonably or unreasonably in treating it [alleged misconduct] as a sufficient reason for dismissing the employee and further to determine this in accordance with equity and the substantial merits of the case. This suggests that there are both substantive and procedural elements to the decision to both of which the band of reasonable responses should be applied". While it could, of course, be contended that another employer might have behaved differently, it is not possible to say either that the behaviour of the Appellants in conducting the investigation or in deciding to dismiss was outside the band of reasonable responses, or that it was unreasonable.
- If the reasons are to be read as saying that "any reasonable employer" would have approached the matter as the member indicated, it is simply perverse. This is quite unlike Whitbread v Hall – where the employee's wife had been suffering from terminal cancer when the disciplinary procedures had been carried out. It is also perverse to say that the investigation was unreasonable, under the Burchell standard, given the procedure that was followed. This is wholly different from the inadequate investigation found in, e.g., Scottish Daily Record & Sunday Mail v Laird [1996] IRLR 665, IH, where dismissal followed a disciplinary interview lasting fifteen minutes, or the situation found in Alloa Pubs & Restaurants Ltd. v Berrie EAT/607/98, 22 October 1998, where there were a number of suspicious circumstances to support the tribunal's unanimous finding that there had not been a reasonable investigation prior to dismissal.
- There is here an implicit acceptance of bad faith on the part of management, where the first lay member records his view that Soapworks Ltd. had "decided to rid themselves of this employee who had become in their view troublesome". That only make sense if the Applicant's contention that the company was acting in bad faith – in other words that the appeal procedure was a sham – is accepted. There is no reason (either given or at all) to validate such a serious criticism of the employer's behaviour, which of course entails that the evidence of Mr Cumming, Mr Kyriatu and Mr Zadrusynki to the tribunal must have been untruthful. There is nothing more than a bald assertion to this effect, only "explained" by the suggestion that a reasonable employer might have carried out a more thorough investigation of various matters and been less hasty. That is not a sufficient basis for a finding of bad faith or collusion. cf. latest view on reasons: Tran v Greenwich Vietnam Community [2002] IRLR 735: "…simply to recite the background and the parties' contentions and then to announce a conclusion is not to do [enough]". (per Sedley LJ at para. 17). According to Arden LJ: "I doubt whether on a reasons challenge it is sufficient that the parties would have known the employer tribunal's reasons if they cannot also be ascertained by the appellate court at least in a case where there is not only a reasons challenge but also a challenge to the substance of the relevant reasons." (para. 39).
- In any event, and questions of bad faith apart, the lay members have wrongly approached questions of credibility of witnesses. The issue is not whether the tribunal accepts the evidence of a witness, but whether it was reasonable for the employer to have done so at the time. The correct approach in considering the credibility of a witness is as set out by the chairman at p.20. See Linfood Cash & Carry Ltd. v Thomson [1989] IRLR 235, EAT; Morgan v Electrolux Ltd. [1991] IRLR 89, CA. See also Maclay and Company v Myles Clark (1997) IH Cases, 12 June 1997, where specific approval was given to Linfood and the test was expressed by Lord McCluskey thus:
Whether the majority of the tribunal had good grounds for holding that the employers could not reasonably have accepted [the evidence of a witness] as truthful.
- Applying that test, there is no basis for the lay members' view in which the evidence of the Applicant is preferred to that of Mr Cumming. Certainly no reason is given. By contrast, there is good ground put forward by the Chairman for his view to the contrary, and his acceptance of the evidence given by the employer's witnesses. See p.23, lines 4-17."