At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE PETER CLARK
MS S R CORBY
MRS D M PALMER
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | MISS E MELVILLE (Of Counsel) Instructed By: Newcastle Upon Tyne Legal Services Department Civic Centre Newcastle Upon Tyne NE99 2BN |
JUDGE PETER CLARK
"Can I fuck you?"
THE TRIBUNAL DECISION
Unfair dismissal
1. The initial investigation carried out by Miss Hardy was dilatory.
2. That investigation was flawed, in that the Applicant was not given full access to the information gleaned by Miss Hardy during her interviews.
3. The Applicant's trade union representative was not given access to relevant social worker files.
4. The disciplinary hearing ought to have been adjourned, given the Applicant's medical condition. The Tribunal further concluded that the Applicant had not contributed to his dismissal by his own conduct.
DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION
THE APPEAL
1. Unfair Dismissal
Miss Melville has sought to attack the various findings by the Tribunal which led them to conclude that the dismissal was unfair under Section 98(4) of the Employment Rights Act 1996. We have considered those submissions but are quite unable to accept that they collectively or individually approach the perversity threshold which Miss Melville seeks to surmount. It seems to us that the Tribunal made, and were entitled to make, findings of fact which, given their self-direction in law, show clearly that they found that the Respondent did not carry out a reasonable investigation for the purpose of the Burchell test and in these circumstances we have no difficulty in inferring the Tribunal found that dismissal fell outside the range of reasonable responses open to the Employer.
2. Contribution
The Tribunal deal with this at paragraph 64 of their reasons. The heart of their conclusion, on this aspect of the case, was that the Respondent failed to establish that the Applicant used the offending words alleged in the telephone call. Miss Melville submits that the Tribunal have failed to consider all the surrounding circumstances, in reaching a conclusion as to whether the Applicant's conduct was foolish or blameworthy. She points to a number of features relied on in the dismissal letter of 7 June 1999. Again, we are quite unable to accept that this line of attack raises any arguable point of law fit to go forward to a full appeal hearing. The critical question, and it was one of fact for the purpose of assessing contribution, was whether or not the Tribunal were satisfied that the Applicant has used the words alleged. This is a different question from the question of reasonableness under Section 98(4) of the Act. We can find no arguable flaw in the Tribunal's reasoning in paragraph 64 of their reasons.
3. The Polkey Point
It is clear from paragraph 25 of the Tribunal's reasons that it was submitted by Miss Melville below, on behalf of the Respondent Employer, that, even if the dismissal was unfair, the circumstances of the unfairness would have made no difference to the final outcome. The Polkey submission. It is equally clear to us that, in their decision, the Tribunal do not deal with that submission. We think that they ought to have dealt with it, or at any rate, indicated to the parties, that they would consider that particular submission at the adjourned remedies hearing. Patent failure to do so gives rise, in our view, to an arguable point of law which ought to proceed to a full hearing.
4. Disability Discrimination
This case was decided before the Court of Appeal decision in Jones v The Post Office [2001] IRLR 384, a case in which guidance is given on the justification defence, there under Section 5(3) of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 but the wording is identical in all material respects under Section 5(4) of the Act, which provides the defence of justification to a claim brought under Section 5(2) of the Act. We need say no more than that this Tribunal's approach to the question of justification in paragraph 63 of their reasons requires careful consideration in light of the Court of Appeal guidance in Jones. Accordingly, this ground of appeal will also proceed to a full hearing.