At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE DAVID WILCOX
MRS D M PALMER
MR S M SPRINGER MBE
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | MR PAUL NICHOLAS (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Hewitson Becke & Shaw Solicitors Shakespere House 42 Newmarket Road Cambridge CB5 8EP |
For the Respondent | MISS M MONDAY (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Kingsley Smith & Co Solicitors 81,87,89 High Street Chatham, Kent ME4 4EE |
JUDGE WILCOX:
12. "The interviews were conducted on 5 August by Ms Moor and Mr Prior. They had prepared job descriptions for the five posts. Two other staff indicated they wanted to take the redundancy package. Mr Wood (the Appellant) was the last to be interviewed. There is a conflict of evidence as to what was said at the interview. Mr Prior and Mr Moor said that Mr Wood indicated right from the beginning that he was not interested in continuing, or in any of the jobs on offer, and wanted to discuss the redundancy package. Mr Wood's evidence is that he enquired whether the redundancies were forced or voluntary, whereupon he was asked to attend a meeting later in the day and when he did so, Ms Moor outlined his redundancy package, thanked him for his work with the company and effectively dismissed him there and then. "
And then this curious sentence:
12. "Again, the Tribunal did not find it necessary for the purposes of its conclusions to resolve which one of these two versions is correct."
27 "The Tribunal found that Mr Wood was dismissed. The Tribunal found that there is in effect no difference between a situation in which, where there are redundancies to be made, an employee asks if he may be made redundant voluntarily and an employer agrees, as compared with the situation where the employee comes off unsuccessful as a result of a selection process."
In paragraph 28, in this paragraph there is a finding by the Tribunal that seems to indicate to us that they have in fact attempted to resolve the issue of fact, which is posed in their reasons at paragraph 12. I go to the latter part of paragraph 28:
28. "The Tribunal found that what caused Mr Wood to volunteer for redundancy was a combination of those circumstances, together with the way in which the process for redundancy had been handled. Therefore, the Tribunal found it was the method by which Mr Wood came to the conclusion that he would seek voluntary redundancy and came to be dismissed, that was the cause of his dismissal, not the redundancy situation."
It seems to us that the Tribunal did not direct its mind as to what was the proximate cause of the dismissal. It seems to us that they confuse their approach and when one looks at their reasons, one is left in considerable doubt as to the path down which they went. That is not satisfactory from the point of view of either Appellant or Respondent in a situation such as this.