At the Tribunal | |
Before
MR RECORDER BURKE QC
MR D J JENKINS MBE
MR R N STRAKER
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | MS C HULSE (of Counsel) Free Representative Unit Verulam House Verulam Street London WC1X 8LZ |
RECORDER BURKE QC:
- Did the Respondent's believe that the Applicant was guilty of the conduct alleged?
- If so were there reasonable grounds in all the circumstances for that belief and
- Had they made a reasonable investigation?
Miss Hulse on behalf of the Applicant contends that the Tribunal did not apply that three-fold test correctly in that they did not direct themselves to consider whether or not there had been an adequate and reasonable investigation in all the circumstances of the case. She says that a reasonable investigation would necessarily have required Mr Yesilada to consider and make enquiries as to whether or not monies had been left at the premises of one of the customers or had somewhere dropped out of the van or had somewhere been taken from the van by a third party; and she says no investigation could be a reasonable investigation, unless those steps had been taken.
- First of all that there has been a misdirection by the Tribunal and
- Secondly if they have directed themselves properly, they have reached a decision on the facts which is a perverse one.
We are unable to see that there was any arguable misdirection by the Tribunal in this case. It plainly asked itself whether or not Mr Yesilada believed that the Applicant was guilty of the conduct alleged. It seems that he did not so believe until Mr Flynn the Applicant actually suggested that it might have Mr Yesilada whom had made off with the money but that converted what might before have been a suspicion into a belief. It might be thought that, if that was Mr Yesilada's state of mind, he had been quite generous to the Applicant before reaching that conclusion but that is the sequence of events that the Tribunal found to have happened.
" It is important to stress that what follows is really only an indication of different facets of this one issue. The employer must prove on the balance of probabilities - more likely than not -
(i) that he believed - again - on the balance of probabilities (not beyond reasonable doubt) - that the employee was guilty of the misconduct and
(ii) that in all the circumstances based upon knowledge of and after consideration of sufficient relevant facts and factors he could reasonably do so. We use the word 'sufficient' because other relevant evidence may later come to light which may point one way or the other. Its existence will not of itself mean that insufficient evidence was known.
The situations which arise upon this second limb (and I interpose that in this case of Gravett, Wood J chairing this Appeal Tribunal ran the second and third limbs of the Burchell test together for perfectly good common sense reasons and it makes no difference whether it is treated as one or two limbs) can and will be infinitely variable; at one extreme there will be cases where the employee is virtually caught in the act and at the other there will be situations where the issue is one of pure inference. As the scale moves towards the latter end, so the amount of inquiry and investigation, including questioning of the employee, which may be required is likely to increase. The sufficiency of the relevant evidence and the reasonableness of the conclusion seem to us to be inextricably entwined. However, it may be that some further inquiry is clearly necessary before the relevant evidence can be considered sufficient."