At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE A WILKIE QC
MR J R CROSBY
MISS G MILLS
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
FULL HEARING
For the Appellant | MS H WILIAMS (of Counsel) 42 Museum Street Bloomsbury London WC1A ILY |
For the Respondent | MR D L REES (of Counsel) Jasmine House Kingston Street Chinnor Oxon OX9 4NL |
JUDGE WILKIE
(a) in the arrangements which he makes for the purpose of determining to whom he should offer employment
(b) by refusing to offer or deliberately not offering him employment.
"However there is no obligation in either party the Citizen's Advice Bureau can terminate the relationship at any time; There is no obligation on the "trainee" volunteer adviser to attend if he chooses not to do so. There are no sanctions against him except the termination of the training programme. Likewise the volunteer adviser is under no obligation to commit himself to "advising" work for any period or at all after completing the training period. The Training is a general job training not training for a professional or vocational qualification. The position of volunteer adviser in the Citizen's Advice Bureau is no different to that of other volunteers in other voluntary organisations."
In sub paragraph (4) they say this "the crucial factor is the absence of pay.
"Expenses" which are reimbursement of travel expenses incurred by the volunteer in travelling to and from his home and his workplace or when travelling on Citizen's Advice Bureau work cannot equate to pay or remuneration or remunerated employment."
"The fact that the training programme is a pre condition for paid employment as an adviser with the Citizen's Advice Bureau does not mean that the Applicant in this case was applying for a job with the Citizen's Advice Bureau under a contract of employment. The volunteer training programme is not an arrangement made from the purpose of determining to whom the Citizen's Advice Bureau should offer employment within the meaning of Section 41(a) of the 1995 Act. In order to come within Section 41(a) the arrangements have to be in relation to a specific job vacancy or vacancies."