At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE D PUGSLEY
MR A C BLYGHTON
MRS R CHAPMAN
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
FULL HEARING
Revised
For the Appellant | MR FREER Legal Officer GMB 22-24 Worple Road London SW19 4DD |
For the Respondents | No appearance or representation by or on behalf of the Respondents |
HIS HONOUR JUDGE D PUGSLEY This is an appeal against the decision of the Employment Tribunal at Stratford with the Chairman sitting alone that the Appellant's claim for a protective award be dismissed.
"We asked for certain information to see if dismissals could be avoided by alteration to works practises and whether people could be re-located at our other site. The whole exercise was a sham and there were no meaningful discussions. We were all given notice on 18 September 1998 and dismissed on 2 October 1998."
A Protective award was lodged because of the Respondent's failure to consult.
"the failure of the Respondent to answer a request for information is clearly pleaded in the IT1 and was the essence of the Appellant's case before the Employment Tribunal.
The Employment Tribunal made a finding that certain information had been requested from the employer as part of consultation. The Employment Tribunal erred in law by failing to make a finding and that these requests had not been complied with.
Further or in the alternative, the Tribunal erred in law by failing to assess whether or not proper consultation had been undertaken with the appropriate representative, as required by Section 188 of the Trade Union Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992.
Further or in the alternative, if such consideration had been made by the Employment Tribunal it is erred in law by failing to adequately make out its findings so as to allow the parties to know why they won or lost or whether or any question of law as arisen in the case of Ucatt –v- Brain (1980) IRLR 357. The Appellant is not in a position to know whether or not the Tribunal asked itself if the information provided was sufficient to fulfil the statutory requirement for consultation with a view to seeking agreement. "
The essence of consultation is that parties have sufficient information to make the process meaningful. The fact is that it is very unlikely that a consultation will not alter matters is not in itself a ground for not making a protective award. The Tribunal reviewed the factual background to the issue and then in the paragraph 9 the Tribunal went on to say this:
"I conclude that the Respondents did comply with Section 188 as they gave notice to the employees on 13 August and because it was before the holiday period they were not able to have the actual fires meeting until 3 September and the dismissal took place on 2 October which is over 30 days from the first notification."
And the Tribunal's view was that:-
"The Respondents have complied with the Sections of 188 and therefore there are no grounds of considering the payment of a protective award under Section 189."