[1999] NISSCSC C14/99-00(IS) (10 October 2000)
Decision No: C14/99-00(IS)
"1. The claimant has been claiming Income Support for herself and her 3 children since 7.5.96.
2. Since 6.8.97 to 26.10.98 she has been working part time at G… Post Office,.. A… A…, Belfast. The Post Office contains a shop and it was in the shop that the claimant worked. The shopkeeper employs a number of part-time staff. The premises close half day on Wednesday.
3. The claimant typically worked from 2.00 pm to 5.30 on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. On Wednesday she worked From 9.00-1.00. This total 18 hours per week.
4. She and her employer state she was paid £15.00 per week as wages which they claim equates to £1 per hour and that it was not necessary for the claimant to work her full hours but, she still got paid the same. Her employer has given the names of 7 other employees and claims not to know several of their addresses. The Tribunal does not accept the evidence of the claimant or her employer as to the wages paid or that the addresses of the employees was unknown. The Tribunal do accept the claimant worked at least 15 hours per week.
5. The claimant did not declare she was working. She was observed working by the fraud investigating officers on the 9, 10, 11 and 17 and 19 February 1998.
6. The claimant was interviewed on 12 March 1998. She was asked to confirm the details in her original claim for Income Support dated 7.5.96 and state if there had been any changes. The claimant stated she had had a baby girl on 19.10.96 whom she was also claiming for. The claimant was asked if she had done any work since 7.5.96 either paid or unpaid. The claimant said she had not and signed a declaration to that effect. The Tribunal do not accept the claimant was unaware of what she was signing as claimed by the claimant.
7. The claimant was interviewed by a Fraud Investigation Officer on 7.5.98 and 12.5.98. In the course of the first interview the claimant stated she had been working from August 1997 and was still working and claimed to be earning £15 per week at £1 per hour.
8. The claimant's order book was recalled on 10.11.98 following a call from Family Credit that the claimant had stated she was working 16 hours per week from 9.11.98. The claimant continued to be overpaid Income Support up until then. The total overpaid from her starting work on 6.8.97 to 27.10.98 is £2880 as per Tab1. She continued to cash her order book up to 11.11.98 when she claimed Family Credit. The amount overpaid from 6.9.97 to the date of interview on 7.5.98 totals £1775.
9. The claimant is to be treated as having notional earnings of £60 per week being £4 per hour multiplied by 15 hours per week. The Department of Economic Development state the average shop assistant's wage is £4.30. The claimant's employer when interviewed on 29.4.98 named 7 employees doing similar work. All but the claimant and her sister who was also on benefit where paid £4 per hour. The Tribunal agrees with the Adjudication Officer calculation of the overpayment.
10. The claimant has a good knowledge of the benefit system. She was aware that she had an obligation to report. She was aware that she had an obligation to report any work done whether paid or unpaid. She also was aware that in certain circumstances she could work up to 15 hours a week and earning up to £15. The claimant did not report the work she had been doing until she was interviewed by the Fraud Officer on 7.5.98 although she was aware from when she started work that she should have. By encashing her order book she signed same declaring she was entitled and had reported all relevant changes whereas this was not so."
"The Adjudication Officer was entitled to review the award of Income Support as there had been a change of circumstance namely it had been discovered the claimant was working (Section 23(1) Health and Social Services Administrative (NI) Act 1992.
The claimant was observed working by Fraud Officer on 5 separate days. She was interviewed on 12.3.98. This no doubt was a short interview and its main purpose was to give the claimant an appointment to declare she had been working (the observations having taken place between the 9.2.98 and 19.2.98). The claimant was not asked at this stage about specific work but was asked simply had she done any work paid or unpaid since 4.5.96. The claimant signed a statement that she had not which was not true. We do not accept the claimant did not know what she was signing or that the sheet was partly covered up. Having heard from the claimant and having regard to her various correspondence with the Department she strikes us as an assertive individual who would not be easily coerced or agree to sign anything against her will. We also do not accept she thought she was being interviewed about Child Maintenance but was specifically asked about work in the context of her Income Support claim.
The claimant was subsequently interviewed on 7.5.98. She admitted working at the G… Post Office from August 1997 earning £15 per week. She claimed she had agreed to work 15 hours at £1 per hour. Her employer was interviewed on 29.4.98. She had provided what purported to be wages records for 7 employees. She claimed not to know the addresses of 4 of her staff. To the Tribunal it is unbelievable that a person in charge of a Post Office does not know the addresses of their staff. This is also contrary to the claimant's evidence and it was a small community where everyone knew each other and her employer knew where she lived. Of the 7 staff all but the claimant and her sister are paid £4 per hour. Some of the staff work on the Post Office side but one young member works in the shop of the Post Office, as does the manageress's brother-in-law. The manageress claims that a young employee's wages drop to £1 per hour when she works in the shop. We do not believe this distinction.
The Tribunal find the evidence of both the manageress and the claimant unreliable. We feel that the claimed £1 per hour is contrived, along with the hours worked, to keep the stated total of £15 per week earnings and 15 hours per week work. We do not believe the claimant would have worked for £1 per hour. Her account and that of her employers of keeping the hours worked in her head and of getting paid the same amount irrespective of the hours worked is unbelievable.
At page 213 of Mesher Regulation 42, (6) of the Income Support (General) Regulations 1987 is discussed. Contrary to the claimant's representatives submission, if the two conditions in sub-paragraph and (b) are met there is no discretion whether or not to apply paragraph 6 (notional income). In the present case sub-paragraphs (a) and (b) are met viz (a) the claimant performs a service by working for her employer and (b) that employer pays less then that paid for comparable employment in the area. When (a) and (b) are met the Adjudication Officer shall treat the claimant as possessing such earnings as is reasonable for that employment. None of the exceptions apply. We feel that £4 per hour is a realistic figure given the Department of Economic Development's figure and those of his other employees (See (R (SB) 13/86).
As we have said the claimant in her correspondence, in her interviews and before us came across as a person with knowledge of the benefit system from whom disclosure could have been expected and was not forthcoming. Her encashment of her Order Book constituted misrepresentations (See R(SB) 94/87).
For completeness we would make comment on two further points raised by the claimant and her representative. Firstly, it is regrettable that public money continued to be wasted on the continued overpayment of the claimant up to November 1998 given that she was observed working in February, denied this fact on 12.3.98 and then admitted working when interviewed on 7.5.98. The fact she was thereafter overpaid does not however convert an overpayment into an entitlement but the Adjudication Officer has accepted it affects recoverability post 7.5.98. For the period from the observations to the 7.5.98 and the subsequent Adjudication Officer's decisions there was some delay. This however does not excuse the claimant from her obligations (See Duggan v Chief Adjudication Officer (CA) and R(SB) 13/89. The second point is that the claimant states she was better off on Income Support and has submitted comparative figures based on her award of Family Credit. This however is irrelevant to the issue of her failure to disclose and overlooks the claimant's obligations to society.
In conclusion, we are satisfied the Adjudication Officer has established rounds to review the award of benefit. There has been a failure to disclose and disclosure was to be expected. We accept the overpayment calculation as accurate."
"1. Is that from 8.8.97 to 26.10.98 the claimant had notional earnigns (sic) of
£60 per week attributable to her work as a shop assistance (sic).
2. Between 6.8.97 to 5.5.98 inclusive she was overpaid £1755 in Income Support as she failed to disclose the material fact she was working.
3. During the period 6.8.97 to 28.10.97 and 5.11.97 to 5.5.98 inclusive by signing the counterfoils in her Order Book she misrepresented that she had reported all facts relevant whereas she had not reported she was working and consequently £1775 was paid in Income Support from 6.8.97 to 5.5.98 which would not have been but for the failure to disclose and misrepresentation. The amount is recoverable from the claimant.
From 6.5.97 to 27.10.98 inclusive the claimant was overpaid £1125 in Income Support but same is not recoverable as the claimant had disclosed her employment when interviewed.
Appeal dismissed."
"Where -(a) a claimant performs a service for another person; and
(b) that person makes no payment of earnings or pays less than that paid for a comparable employment in the area,
the adjudication officer shall treat the claimant as possessing such earnings (if any) as is reasonable for that employment unless the claimant satisfies him that the means of that person are insufficient for him to pay or to pay more for the service; but this paragraph shall not apply to a claimant who is engaged by a charitable or voluntary organisation or is a volunteer if the adjudication officer is satisfied in any of those cases that it is reasonable for him to provide his services free of charge or in a case where the service is performed in connection with the claimant's participation in an employment or training programme in accordance with regulation 19(1)(p) of the Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1996."
"Where a claimant is treated as possessing any earnings under paragraph (5) or (6) the foregoing provisions of this Part shall apply for the purposes of calculating the amount of those earnings as if a payment had actually been made and as if they were actual earnings which he does possess except that regulation 36(3) (calculation of net earnings of employed earners) shall not apply and his net earnings shall be calculated by taking into account the earnings which he is treated as possessing, less -(a) an amount in respect of income tax equivalent to an amount calculated by applying to those earnings the lower rate or, as the case may be, the lower rate and the basic rate of tax in the year of assessment less only the personal relief to which the claimant is entitled under sections 8(1) and (2) and 14(1)(a) and (2) of the Income and Corporation Taxes Act 1970 (personal relief) as is appropriate to his circumstances; but, if the period over which those earnings are to be taken into account is less than a year, the earnings to which the lower rate of tax is to be applied and the amount of the personal relief deductible under this paragraph shall be calculated on a pro rata basis;(b) where the weekly amount of those earnings equals or exceeds the lower earnings limit, an amount representing primary Class 1 contributions under the Contributions and Benefits Act, calculated by applying to those earnings the initial and main primary percentages in accordance with section 8(1)(a) and (b) of that Act, and
(c) ............. (not relevant)"
(i) the identity of the employer;(ii) the particulars of the service provided by (a claimant) for that employer;
(iii) the actual payment made for the services (including payment in kind); and
(iv) the amount which would be paid for comparable employment.
In my view the adjudicating authorities must take a similar approach when dealing with cases under the Income Support (General) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1987.
(Signed): J A H MARTIN QC
CHIEF COMMISSIONER
10 OCTOBER 2000