QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
MEDIA & COMMUNICATIONS LIST
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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Jamal Hijazi |
Claimant |
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Stephen Yaxley-Lennon |
Defendant |
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The Defendant appeared in person
Hearing dates: 21-23, 26 April 2021
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Crown Copyright ©
Covid-19 Protocol: This judgment was handed down by the judge remotely by circulation to the parties' representatives and BAILII by email. The date of hand-down is deemed to be as shown above.
The Honourable Mr Justice Nicklin :
Section |
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Paragraphs |
A. |
The Claimant | |
B. |
The incident on 25 October 2018 and subsequent media coverage | |
C. |
The Defendant and posting of the First and Second Videos on Facebook | |
D. |
The Claim and the determination of the meaning of the First and Second Videos | |
E. |
Extent of publication and serious harm to reputation | |
F. |
The Defendant's Defence | |
G. |
The defence of truth: s.2 Defamation Act 2013 | |
H. |
The evidence at trial | |
(1) |
Witnesses | |
(2) |
Documents | |
(3) |
Hearsay Evidence | |
I. |
Incidents relied upon by the Defendant in support of the truth defence | |
(1) |
Alleged bullying of BWI by the Claimant | |
(2) |
The Claimant's alleged verbal abuse of and towards girls and women | |
(3) |
The alleged incidents of the Claimant stabbing a pupil with a sharp-pointed object | |
(4) |
The Claimant's alleged possession of a screwdriver and/or a knife | |
(5) |
The Claimant's alleged attack(s) on young girl(s) | |
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(a) The Hockey Stick Incident | |
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(b) The Group Attack Incident | |
(6) |
The threat to stab Bailey McLaren | |
J. |
Remedies | |
(1) |
Damages | |
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(a) The Law | |
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(b) Evidence | |
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(c) Submissions | |
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(d) Decision | |
(2) |
Injunction | |
(3) |
Publication of a summary of the Court's judgment: s.12 Defamation Act 2013 | |
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Final words | |
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Agreed transcripts of the Facebook Videos |
A: The Claimant
B: The incident on 25 October 2018 and subsequent media coverage
"Victim was walking across playing fields within [school] grounds when suspect approaches victim, grabbing victim and pushing him to the floor. Suspect sits on top of victim and holds him by neck and squirts water from a bottle into victim's face. Victim then walked away from the scene. Other pupils from the school video the event. Victim believes this is a racially motivated attack due to being a Syrian refugee and Muslim."
"Something happened between Bailey & [Jamal]. It resulted in Bailey shouting at [Jamal] angrily about him swearing at him. At one point, Bailey had his hand at [Jamal's] throat. I got in between them and sent Bailey outside to calm down. After this, Bailey said 'I'll kill him!' and 'I'll headbutt him'. [Jamal] swore at this point 'F off'. Bailey said I will stab you with a knife (whispered)."
As I explain further below, many of the documents presented in evidence at the trial were redacted before they were provided to the parties. When I quote from documents, and it has been possible from the context to work out the name that has been redacted, I have included that in square brackets.
"It all started on Thursday in Science when [Jamal's] coat got thrown on the floor and it landed on my feet but didn't notice so it looked like I kick[ed] it but I didn't. I then said sorry to him, which he took… the wrong way and told me to 'fuck off'. I ask[ed] him to repeat it. [He said] 'fuck off you white bastard' so I then reacted to him and grab[bed] him by his throat, which I am not pleased about myself, but I wasn't having someone call me that. And we left it at that for the time being but then I got told that he was laughing and joking about my stutter which I have problems with people making fun of and also saying that he was gonna stab me when he sees me. So I went to go confront him about this which he was smiling about which doesn't show in the video. I didn't want to do what I did but I wasn't having people taking the mick … so when I poured water over him I was looking to wash his mouth out. I just wanted to teach him a lesson. Sorry for my actions…"
The incident report is not dated, but the reference to the recording suggests that it was completed after the Viral Video had emerged. In his evidence at trial, Bailey said that it had been written before the Viral Video had received media attention.
i) one, dated 5 November 2018, from a pupil in Year 11, whose name has been redacted, which recorded:
"[Jamal] was bumped into accidently outside science by BMc.
[Jamal] told BMc to 'fuck off'.
What happened on the field was BMc teaching [Jamal] that he isn't someone you can just tell to 'fuck off'"
ii) another, also dated 5 November 2018, from another Year 11 pupil, name also redacted, which recorded:
"Bailey accidently stood on [Jamal's] bag. [Jamal] told Bailey to fuck off and pushed him. Then whatever happened on the field happened. [Jamal] started it."
"… I was at Almondbury Community School for just over two years, from October 2016 to December 2018. Throughout this time, I was picked on by a lot of the other kids who would make fun of me whenever they got the chance. As I did not speak much English at the time, I could not understand a lot of the words but these other kids were laughing at me and this got worse. This often happened in the corridors at school and I would say 'I don't understand' and then they would often repeat what they had said by coming up to me and shouting in my face, but I still did not understand. The bullying became more regular over time, even as my language got better. It made me very unhappy…
Because there were so many incidents, I cannot remember all of them now. Sometimes, things were so serious that the Council or even the Police had to get involved. I believe that the first one happened in December 2016 and that it resulted in a meeting with my parents and the head of faith at the school. I know that this was something to do with a student saying something about my family's religious beliefs. I do not remember exactly what this student had done because it was the first of many incidents like this where a nasty comment was made or I was called a bad name.
After the video of water being poured on me went viral, I felt that there was no point in reporting incidents where I was bullied anymore. I had had enough and didn't want to go to school anymore. Even before this, there were some incidents that I did not report. For example, some of the students who bullied me would throw things over the top of the cubicle if I was in the toilet, or hold the door so I couldn't get out. Sometimes, they would show me a bottle of water, then squirt water at me. I didn't think it was worth reporting these incidents.
There was one particular group of boys I had a problem with. These were a group of boys that included Bailey McLaren, the boy involved in the viral video... These boys were a very close group and were usually together. They seemed to have a problem with me and I don't know why.
Most of them were there whenever they approached me and bullied me. Most of the time, I reported these incidents to a teacher and these students would call me a 'snitch' for reporting. I had to do a statement for the school each time I reported an incident. These students would always deny bullying me if a teacher spoke to them about it, and they would defend each other and say that they hadn't done anything wrong, and sometimes they would say that I had started an argument with them."
"… Have we got any ideas who might have witnessed any of these incidents? Do we know whereabouts this was? These boys will all stick together and deny everything."
C: The Defendant and posting of the First and Second Videos on Facebook
D: The Claim and the determination of the meaning the First and Second Videos.
"The Claimant had (1) as part of a gang, participated in a violent assault on a young girl which had caused her significant injuries; and (2) threatened to stab another child"
In this judgment, I shall refer to these as Imputations 1 and 2.
"The Claimant had, as part of a gang, participated in a violent assault on a young girl which had caused her serious injuries."
E: Extent of publication and serious harm to reputation
F: The Defendant's Defence
i) An incident, between January-February 2017, when it is alleged that the Claimant "made an unprovoked attack upon a fellow female pupil, Charly Matthews. He came behind her and struck her forcefully between the shoulder blades with a weapon in the form of a hockey stick with great force" ("the Hockey Stick Incident").
ii) On an unidentified occasion, the Claimant is alleged to have acted in concert with three young girls in attacking EYW. Whilst the three girls were beating EYW, the Claimant is alleged to have joined in and bitten EYW on the head ("the Group Attack Incident").
iii) The Claimant is alleged persistently to have bullied a 12-year-old male child, BWI. The Claimant was 15 years old at the time. As part of this alleged bullying, the Claimant is alleged to have put BWI in an "extreme headlock". When another child intervened, to protect BWI, the Claimant fell to the floor and fractured his arm. He is alleged to have racially abused BWI's mother by calling her a "white fat bitch".
iv) The Claimant is alleged frequently to have been verbally aggressive towards female students and female teachers.
v) On the day of the Playing Field Incident, the Claimant is alleged to have threatened to stab Bailey McLaren.
vi) On a separate unidentified occasion, the Claimant is alleged to have stabbed a fellow pupil with a sharp-pointed object.
vii) The Claimant is alleged to have been caught in possession of a knife and screwdriver whilst he was in school.
G: The defence of truth: s.2 Defamation Act 2013
"(1) It is a defence to an action for defamation for the defendant to show that the imputation conveyed by the statement complained of is substantially true.
(2) Subsection (3) applies in an action for defamation if the statement complained of conveys two or more distinct imputations.
(3) If one or more of the imputations is not shown to be substantially true, the defence under this section does not fail if, having regard to the imputations which are shown to be substantially true, the imputations which are not shown to be substantially true do not seriously harm the claimant's reputation."
H: The evidence at the trial
(1) Witnesses
(2) Documents
"… if the judge is satisfied that certain contemporaneous documentation is likely to have existed were the oral evidence correct… then the documentation may be conspicuous by its absence and the judge may be able to draw inferences from its absence."
(3) Hearsay Evidence
"(1) In estimating the weight (if any) to be given to hearsay evidence in civil proceedings the court shall have regard to any circumstances from which any inference can reasonably be drawn as to the reliability or otherwise of the evidence.
(2) Regard may be had, in particular, to the following—
(a) whether it would have been reasonable and practicable for the party by whom the evidence was adduced to have produced the maker of the original statement as a witness;
(b) whether the original statement was made contemporaneously with the occurrence or existence of the matters stated;
(c) whether the evidence involves multiple hearsay;
(d) whether any person involved had any motive to conceal or misrepresent matters;
(e) whether the original statement was an edited account, or was made in collaboration with another or for a particular purpose;
(f) whether the circumstances in which the evidence is adduced as hearsay are such as to suggest an attempt to prevent proper evaluation of its weight."
[36] … As the authors of Phipson on Evidence, 17th edition, say at paragraph 29-15 "the [Civil Evidence] Act is not intended to provide a substitute for oral evidence. The basic principle under which the courts operate is that evidence is given orally with cross-examination of witnesses, and the admission of hearsay evidence is, and should be the exception to the rule. Caution should be exercised before tendering important evidence through hearsay statements. Hearsay evidence is better used where the evidence is peripheral or relatively uncontroversial."
[37] It seems to me that selective snippets of hearsay from individuals who have not been called, particularly where it has been "cherry picked" from material which casts it in a different light, provides an obviously unsatisfactory evidential basis upon which to invite a court to find facts and/or draw adverse inferences whether as to the conduct of those individuals or anyone else. In a sense, it is Hamlet without the Prince. There may be cases where hearsay evidence and/or the contemporaneous documents in combination provide persuasive evidence, but in my judgment, they did not do so here. It is no answer to the problematic nature of the hearsay evidence relied on in this case for the Defendant to suggest… that it was open to Mr Miller either to call the relevant individuals himself, or require their attendance for cross-examination. The burden is on the Defendant to prove its case; and the tendering of hearsay evidence which lacks weight for various reasons doesn't cast any burden on a claimant to require the witness concerned to be called for cross-examination let alone to call the person concerned as his or her own witness.
The Judge's approach was upheld on appeal: [2014] EWCA Civ 39 [31]-[40].
"Hearsay evidence shall not be admitted in civil proceedings if or to the extent that it is shown to consist of, or to be proved by means of, a statement made by a person who at the time he made the statement was not competent as a witness. … [A] child shall be treated as competent as a witness if he satisfies the requirements of section 96(2)(a) and (b) of the Children Act 1989 (conditions for reception of unsworn evidence of child)."
"The child's evidence may be heard by the court if, in its opinion—
(a) he understands that it is his duty to speak the truth; and
(b) he has sufficient understanding to justify his evidence being heard."
Defendant: 'Cos he gets caught with a knife and I've got proof he got caught with a knife. And a screwdriver. He gets caught with a knife and a screwdriver in his bag. Now their whole thing is it's because he was scared. He was scared in school. Would he have been scared?
MVY: [shakes his head] there's no reason for him to be scared to be honest.
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Unidentified: Yeah but nobody liked him.
MVY: He had friends. That's the thing, he had friends. He chilled with people. But it's not like he was the most hated in school.
Defendant: What would the reasons be for people not liking him?
MVY: Being an idiot to people. Trying to cause fights. That's it.
Defendant: Yeah. He caused them?
MVY: Mostly, mostly.
Defendant: What about with younger pupils?
MVY: The only one I can think of is [BWI].
Defendant: [BWI], yeah. I've got that nailed to be honest.
MVY: 'Cos he's the one he had a fight with.
Defendant: Was it a fight as well?
MVY: It was just Jamal punching him really. [BWI] backing off and Jamal trying to throw punches at him.
Defendant: OK. and on the Bailey thing. So, you went to school with Bailey?
MVY: Yeah.
Defendant: Racist?
MVY: No
Defendant: Nothing at all?
MVY: [shakes his head]
Defendant: No. Cos you said he was all right at first.
MVY: Yeah he was alright. When he first came to the country he was not talkative at all but then when he got in was talkative. He was a nice boy at first and then he just changed randomly out of nowhere, like, somewhere at end of year 9 beginning of year 10 he started being an idiot towards people.
Defendant: Which coincides with school records. What about, your mum said something about he put something between his hands?
MVY: Ah yes, it was a compass. I remembered it yesterday just as you went. It was a compass. He got a compass and he was going around like 5 students going yes, yes, and when he got to me, he went [smacks his hand] proper hard into me. Made me bleed and everything. And I think it was [name of teacher] that proper gave him a telling off.
I: Incidents relied upon by the Defendant in support of the truth defence
(1) Alleged bullying of BWI by the Claimant
"[In the Viral Video], Jamal could be seen wearing a plaster cast on his arm and it was widely said that this was a result of bullying. I wish to point out that this was not the case. That happened after a confrontation between myself and Jamal, when he had been calling my mum a 'white fat bitch'… When he said that about my mum I went up to him even though he was three years older than me. I was angry at what he'd called her and threw a plastic bottle at him. Jamal grabbed me and put me in a headlock and was really hurting me. Lots of people saw it. One boy stopped Jamal by pushing him off. He fell awkwardly and hurt his arm on the ground. That was why he was wearing a plaster cast, not because he was bullied, but because he was bullying me."
BWI did not claim that this incident was part of any campaign of bullying by the Claimant.
"On another occasion Jamal was grabbing a much younger kid, from about Year 7, and Jamal was in Year 11. He put this kid in a headlock and a friend of mine went over and threw Jamal off him, just as anyone would, breaking up a fight. Except this wasn't a fight, this was a one-sided brawl. This kid was not match against Jamal, he didn't come up to Jamal's shoulder. My friend pushed him off the boy and Jamal fell against the kerb and hurt his arm. Jamal had been picking on this kid for a week or so, pushing him, tripping him up. My friend had seen him doing it and he'd had enough. He said 'you're not doing this any more' and pushed him off him. That was all."
"For no reason, when I was trying to take the water off him [redacted] came and he held me [back] and start saying to [redacted] to bang him. I was trying to [defend] myself and [redacted] came from my back and he bust me real hard with his shoulder and I fell and I went to the medical room and they gave me ice to put on my hand. I was using deep spray at home. I told my mum and dad and I was scared to go to hospital. After four days I went to hospital. I was still scared and my hand was broken and [BWI] is saying I [swore] at his mum and I think that is not correct."
i) In an incident report, dated 4 October 2018, one pupil (who, from the contents, appears to be BWI) recorded: "Jamal was talking about mine and [redacted]'s mum… I squirted water in Jamal's face and then Jamal pushed me and punched me in the stomach."
ii) In an incident report dated 10 October 2018, another pupil recorded, "[redacted] held Jamal back… he was swinging at [redacted]."
iii) In an undated incident report, a third pupil reported, "Jamal walked over to [redacted] and called his mum a slag and a prostitute… threw water in [Jamal's] face… Jamal started punching [redacted] in the face and missed so he went for his stomach… I pushed Jamal and he rolled over and held his head…"
These entries may not give the full picture. If they have been provided in response to a subject access request by the Claimant, other parts of the incident report (if there are any) which do not directly refer to him will not have been disclosed. It is clear, however, that there is no reference in any of these accounts to the Claimant having held BWI in a headlock or the incident having started when, as BWI claimed in his evidence at the trial, the Claimant had called his mother a "white fat bitch", although the third pupil's account does allege abuse of BWI's mother.
i) The first is an email from a teacher to another member of staff responsible for the Claimant's work placement, sent at 12:53 on 5 October 2018:
"Parents are frustrated and angry that the person who pushed Jamal had no consequence. However what I assume Jamal did not tell them was that the person who pushed him out of the way was defending [redacted] who Jamal had allegedly pushed/hit and was having an argument with…"
ii) The second is an email, from one member of staff to another, sent at 19.16 on 11 October 2018:
"I'll call you in the morning to discuss this but in brief all the statements, apart from [the Claimant's] state that [the Claimant] said something to [BWI]. [BWI] then tried to squirt water at [the Claimant]. [The Claimant] then started punching [BWI] and was bent over him. Pupil B saw what was happening and pushed [the Claimant] off [BWI]. As he was pushed… [the Claimant] rolled over and fell on the floor.
[The Claimant] went to seek medical attention in school which was given. Parents were advised to take [the Claimant] to A&E to have it checked out. [The Claimant] was taken to A&E a few days later when it was discovered that he had broken his arm…
The police have been into the school to interview the boys and I believe they have given the same stories."
(2) The Claimant's alleged verbal abuse of and towards girls and women
"I think it was while I was in Year 10 that I became aware of a new student called Jamal Hijazi. He was in the school year above me. I would mostly see him around school or occasionally walking home from school, or at the shop which was across from my home and up the road from where his family lived.
I never had reason to talk to him at school, but I was aware that he used to just start on girls, mostly younger than him, for no reason at all. Mostly he would call them names or given them dirty looks. This behaviour started as soon as he joined the school. I never thought he would start on me though.
A few months before the incident with Bailey McLaren, I was walking home from school and up towards the shop. Jamal was there and just started calling me names, he called me 'a tramp, ner, ner, ner… you tramp'. I was alone but there were people around, a few younger pupils walking home, but they thought nothing of it because he did this all the time.
I said to him 'what have I done, why are you starting on me?' I was more shocked than anything. The he started spitting at me, all over, I was covered, my school uniform was covered. I tried moving away from him, and then he went to hit me. He just caught my face.
I shouted 'what's your fucking problem?' He just shouted back, 'fuck off you tramp' and stuff like that, then he turned around towards his home down a cul de sac.
I went home and told my mum and she phoned school and reported what had happened. They said that because it had happened outside school there was nothing they could do about it."
i) The few negative entries that there are demonstrate that he was prone, on occasions, to silly and disruptive behaviour in class and he was also warned about his punctuality and attendance record.
ii) There are two entries – in the summer of 2018 – recording physical aggression towards another pupil. There are also isolated records of the Claimant not telling the truth, for example lying about whether he had permission to be out of class.
iii) Generally, however, the records show that poor behaviour by the Claimant was very much regarded by staff as being out of character.
iv) The Claimant's last Form Tutor's assessment, in July 2018, was as follows:
"Jamal is a polite and well-mannered pupil. However, Jamal should try to use his initiative and work independently, more frequently, and in all lessons. He should aim to challenge himself in order to progress both within lessons and outside school. He should not be prepared to settle for completing the minimum amount of work, instead pushing himself to complete work to a high standard allowing him to access his full potential. The skill to work independently becomes increasingly important as we approach Y11, especially when revising for GCSE exams. Jamal must improve his attitude and work rate in all subjects especially Maths and English; stay on task; refrain from being disrupted and leave non-school issues outside the classroom…"
(3) The alleged incidents of the Claimant stabbing a pupil with a sharp-pointed object
i) An occasion, recorded in an incident report dated 20 September 2017, when the Claimant was joking around with other pupils, slapping hands together with a sharp object placed between his fingers.
ii) The occasion alleged by MVY (see [53] above), in which MVY claims that the Claimant used a compass to stab the hands of some 5 pupils including MVY.
"Nothing has happened. I was just joking with [redacted]. We just tapped fists to say 'hi'. Jamal admitted to me that he had a board pin, from the library, in between his fingers pointing towards [redacted] when he 'tapped hands'. The pin has resulted in a stab mark on the back of [redacted's] hand."
There are also two further entries in other incident reports from the other pupils involved that corroborate what is recorded in the teacher's report.
(4) The Claimant's alleged possession of a screwdriver and/or a knife
"Jamal was told to go to the House Office to check he had anything sharp in his bag. A knife and a screwdriver were found. Jamal said they were not his. School did not take any precautions."
(4) The Claimant's alleged attack(s) on young girl(s)
i) the Hockey Stick Incident involving Charly Matthews; and
ii) the Group Attack Incident against EYW.
(a) The Hockey Stick Incident
"PE lessons happened in the sports hall and my teacher was Mr Cattell. I think my PE lesson was around midday but I am not sure. This half term I had chosen hockey and so had Jamal.
In the lesson time we would do different activities to learn the skills we needed such as dribbling. And at the end of the lesson, we would have a quick game.
During the game Mr Cattell went into the storeroom and I had the ball as part of the game. I had just managed to get the ball from Jamal, who was on the other team, and I hit it to my team mates on the other side of the room. After I had hit the ball to my team I felt a blow to the middle of my back in between my shoulder blades. It caused me to go onto my knees.
I turned around and saw that Jamal had come up behind me and hit me aggressively with a hockey stick. There is no way that this could've been part of the game or an attempt to get the ball.
The way that the blow came down with force onto my spine in a downward motion meant that he must have swung the hockey stick over his shoulder.
Jamal walked off and muttered something in his own language. [I] managed to get up and go to the changing room as I couldn't see the teacher.
I began to have a panic attack in the changing room. There were other students in the class who had witnessed this behaviour.
After the lesson was over I went back to the sports hall and told Mr Cattell what had happened and he said he would deal with it but I didn't hear anything else about the incident.
I was in pain for the rest of the day. I remember telling my friends that my back was hurting. I still take medication for the pain now.
When I got home, I told my mum what had happened and said that Mr Cattell was dealing with it. I feared Jamal by this point.
I did not do PE for about three months following the attack and the school were aware of the injury. My mum would write notes in my planner so that I would be excused from physical activity.
I still suffer pain and discomfort to my back. I have attended my GP and had different X-rays and MRI scans. I currently see a chiropractor for the pain and take medication from my doctor. I take 30mg of codeine up to four times a day and 25mg of pregabalin twice a day as well as paracetamol and ibuprofen…
I continued at [the School] until around May 2017, however, during this time I began to become increasingly anxious and scared to go to school…
I became the victim of bullies (not only Jamal) and this made my school life particularly awful.
Jamal was a significant contributory factor in my decision to leave the school and transfer to [another school]. However, I could not settle and this school and did return to [the School] for a short while. This did not work out and subsequently I had to be home schooled…"
i) An entry for 4 April 2019, records:
"Received a call from ETHOS (home education team) re concern that [redacted] has visited [Charly's mother's] home while a member of staff has been present. The visit has been reported as follows.
- During the afternoon of Wednesday 3.4.19 Charly was being taught by her daily ETHOS tutor at home [address given]
- During her lesson [redacted] arrived at the house unannounced and knocked on the door. [Mother] invited [Tommy] in and Charly appeared visibly upset.
- [The teacher] left the home and reported the visit to the [redacted] who informed [redacted].
- [Redacted] then contacted [Charly's mother] the following day (Thursday 4.4.19) to discuss the incident. [Charly's mother] stated that she didn't understand why such a fuss was being made about [redacted] visiting her home. [Charly's mother] went on to say that she fully understood who [redacted] is and said that he used to be seen as a racist but that was down to the media. She also asked [redacted] not to let everyone know and stated 'between you and me, [Jamal Hijazi] hit Charly with a hockey stick, that's why she doesn't come to school anymore'.
- [Charly's mother] went [on] to explain that [redacted] had visited her to find out what had happened to Charly…"
Ms Evans QC submitted that the name of the visitor to Charly's home was the Defendant. The Defendant did not argue against this, and I accept that this is likely.
ii) There is then a record of an inquiry being received from the Kirklees Police, on 8 April 2019, asking the School whether "anything was reported by Charly or her mother in regards to [Jamal Hijazi] assaulting her with a hockey stick" prior to her leaving the School.
iii) The School's response to the police is recorded in a further entry, on 8 April 2019:
"… there is no record of an incident between Charly and [Jamal]. She has asked other members of the House team and none have any record of such an incident… [On] no occasion did [Charly's mother] or Charly report this to [redacted] or anyone else in school when she still attended in Year 9…"
"In PE we had to choose between three sports, and I was in the same group as Jamal doing hockey. I was sat on the side-lines waiting for my turn when I saw him attack a girl. I could see the ball on the opposite side and I wondered 'why is his hockey stick up in the air?' The ball was at the opposite side. And then his hockey stick came straight down on Charly's back. There was no hesitation in that swing, it came straight down on her from behind. From behind his head. He just turned round and walked away.
The teacher came over and just sent Charly to first aid. Jamal walked away and sat down and the teacher never spoke to him. I went up to him and asked 'why did you do that' and just told me to piss off. There was no explanation…"
i) He claimed not to have chosen hockey, but to have been sent there having been removed from his chosen lesson of dodgeball due to an incident with another child.
ii) Charly's evidence was that the whole class - some 20-30 pupils - were playing hockey, whereas OTP claimed only part of the class had been doing hockey. He stated that he had been watching from the side-lines for "about 40 minutes", although it was Charly's evidence that the hockey game took place in the last ten minutes of the PE lesson.
iii) The clear implication in his witness statement was that the teacher had been present when the incident had happened. However, in cross-examination he claimed that the teacher was actually in a storeroom "getting more hockey sticks" and only returned "within the last 2 minutes" of the lesson.
iv) Asked about the other pupils who could have witnessed the incident, he claimed that every one of them had been "facing the other way" from the Claimant and Charly when the incident happened; "I guess they could not see it".
v) In cross-examination, OTP also contradicted himself as to the order in which events had taken place. In his witness statement he stated that the teacher "came over and just sent Charly to first aid" following which he went over and spoke to the Claimant. The implication was that this all happened while the game was continuing. Initially in cross-examination he claimed that the teacher had only come back close to the end of the lesson, but then he went on to claim that the teacher had been in the store-room for the entire game and it was only after the lesson had ended that Charly had spoken to him.
vi) Asked about how he knew that Charly had been sent to first aid, he replied that this was his "assumption". OTP was then questioned about how, if she had spoken to him after the lesson was over, how he could have made that assumption. He could not give a satisfactory answer. Charly herself had said nothing about being sent to first aid, and stated that she did not seek any medical assistance.
(b) The Group Attack Incident
i) first, some text messages sent by EYW's mother to the Defendant; and
ii) second, a partial transcript of covert recordings of EYW's mother on two unidentified occasions.
"My little girl got beated by 3 girls and [Jamal] jumped in and bit her on the head"
She then forwarded 6 photos, apparently showing EYW with a black eye.
"Will find the [pic] from her bite mark in a min…"
EYW's mother sent a further text (about the Playing Field Incident) (with errors as they appeared in the original text):
"Its pissed me off that he school had rang the police over the 'horrific attack'. He grabbed him by the neck and gave him a little water. Oh lets give him 100k. My girl was beaten badly and gets fuck all. The school never rang the police or anything and a fund page wasnt set up for her. Makes me sick to my fucking stomach. Im so angry right now. My girl has a all the time black eye comes up when she's cold. Its rediculas."
The Defendant responded:
"Fucking Liberty. Be great to interview ya just to put out Syrian boys involvement.
"It wasn't him…… it was the 3 girls. He didn't do anything. This should not of been posted until the full story was told. Delete it now. I don't want my girls face on anything…
It was not him im the girls mother…….. it was the girls
Look he didn't touch. I was talking to tommy bout it cos my girl didn't get the media when she was horrificly attached. Thats all end of"
Defendant: I need confirmation, just to say "yup, that's what happened". That he was involved and that's it. If he wasn't, then he wasn't, but if he was, then that's it.
Mother: He was there.
Defendant: He was there.
Mother: Yeah. Do you want me to see if [EYW] will speak to you?
Defendant: Yes, sound.
[a short interval whilst EYW's mother goes into the house]
Mother: No she won't. She says it's all calmed down so she doesn't want to blow it up…
Defendant: She doesn't want to blow it up.
Mother: No
Defendant: No one has to know that I've spoken to …
Mother: No, I know, but she's scared.
Defendant: I know, everyone's scared. But was he there?
Mother: He was there.
Defendant: How many of them were there?
Mother: There was a video going around. He was there. I'll see if she has still got the video, if she has I'll send it to you.
Defendant: Is it all right … if I get your number off your daughter here, because what it is, I spoke to another little girl whose mum went online to say Jamal beat her up, but she deleted the comment after two hours because she said 'I couldn't handle the threats we were receiving'
Mother: Yeah, I deleted mine as well.
Defendant: Yeah, ok, so that was the reason why?
Mother: Yeah.
Defendant: Ah well, okay… I just wanted to pick your brain… if I could just get your number off your daughter, because I'm up here all next week, and if I could catch 10 minutes with you. What it is, I'm trying to get is … with my court case, I want my court case not to go to court now. I've got so much dirt on the lawyer, I've got so much dirt on Jamal, I've got so many things said about them, which call into question everything they've done. With regards to Jamal, you know when I came here before, and I asked, so that I know. If it does go to trial, as I've said to you before, they want to take everything… not just (what) I have but what my wife has, and all I done was report what I was told. Was Jamal there? Was Jamal involved?
Mother: Yeah.
Defendant: Yeah, all right. That's all right. You know, we've had the conversation before, I know I've spoke to you multiple times, but I just keep reassuring myself so I know what I'm saying is right. All right, babe, I'll get your number off your daughter if that's all right?
Mother: Yeah, get my number, yeah, and be careful when you go out please.
Defendant: Yeah I will (laughs). I'm in a burka (laughs)…
Although the Defendant mentions in that conversation having spoken to EYW's mother "multiple times", only these two recordings have been provided by the Defendant. It appears, from EYW's mother's comments, that she may have posted publicly a comment, in response to the Viral Video receiving media attention, which she then deleted. I do not have a copy of what she stated in this posting.
(6) The threat to stab Bailey McLaren
"7.9 … the Claimant had been in a lesson with Bailey McClaren (sic). He dragged Bailey's coat across the floor of the classroom. When Bailey told him to stop, he replied with words to the effect: 'wait until lunchtime, you are going to get stabbed'.
7.10 On the same day, whilst he was eating lunch, one of the Claimant's friends approached Bailey and told him that the Claimant was going to stab him. The incident shown in the [Viral Video]... occurred as a direct result of Bailey confronting the Claimant about the Claimant's threat to stab him, hence Bailey's opening words: 'What are you saying now?'"
"On the day of the [Playing Field Incident] we had Science class with [named teacher], and there was an altercation. Somehow Jamal's coat ended up on the floor by my feet. If I put my foot on it I didn't know, but I said sorry to him at which he told me to 'fuck off'.
I challenged him to say that again and he said 'fuck off, you white bastard. I reacted and grabbed him which I wasn't proud of but I wasn't going to take being called that. He said something in his own language and after what I was told shortly afterwards, I wondered if he'd said the English word 'stab'. I couldn't be sure.
I was sent out of class and put 'on call' as the School says. I was in the dining room when an Asian lad approached me, and he was fine. He said Jamal had been mocking my stutter which I have had problems with people making fun of, and he asked 'Do you know what Jamal said? Jamal's going to stab you'. And I was thinking it must be a lead on from what happened in the classroom.
I wasn't having someone say that. I'm not the kind of person to sit back and let that be said. After that I kind of lost my head. I jumped up straight away, and I had a bottle of water with me from my lunch. I had my bag on already and went outside to confront him…"
"… the Claimant had been in a lesson with Bailey McClaren (sic).He dragged Bailey's coat across the floor of the classroom. When Bailey told him to stop, he replied with words to the effect: "wait until lunchtime, you are going to get stabbed".There was a disagreement between the two boys in which the Claimant's coat was on the floor and insults were exchanged. Bailey McLaren grabbed the Claimant but then left the classroom."
"Bailey McLaren then came up to Ahmed and punched him in the face, got him in a headlock and headbutted him in the head 3 times. He also kneed him in the stomach. Then Bailey McLaren went inside, came face to face with [redacted] and told him to f**c off you curly haired bas**rd and threatened to punch him. He also told [redacted] to f**k off too."
Bailey replied that he could not recall this incident, but then added, "why would Ahmed then come up to me about Jamal?" Bailey clearly thought that this was a point that undermined the veracity of the incident report. In my view, it served to undermine the credibility of his claim to have recalled – or "pieced together" – that it had been "Ahmed" that had allegedly approached him to inform Bailey of Claimant's alleged threat to stab him.
"I understand Jamal claimed that I punched him five times to the head, but I never hit him. You can see that on the film. He suffered no physical damage."
"At lunchtime, Bailey started chasing me around. He then threw a full water bottle at my head and then tripped [me] up and punched me in my face about 5 times and about 10 mins later he was punching me in my broken nuculs (sic) and he was neeing (sic) me."
"… He has referred to the EDL and [redacted] in conversations with staff (Bailey referred to [redacted] on 18 October 2018, asking staff if they'd heard of him)."
Ms Evans QC put it to Bailey that the name that had been redacted from the document was the Defendant's. Bailey gave evasive answers, including "I wouldn't like to say". Whether the redacted name in the document was the Defendant's is not really the point. The point is that Bailey would have known the name. His evasive answer rather tends to confirm that it was the Defendant's name, but his answer is more important in terms of Bailey's credibility. Upon further questioning, he confirmed that, after the media fallout from the Viral Video, a member of his family had contacted the Defendant and he had been interviewed by him. Bailey added that he had "lived with him for about 4 months". He clarified later that the Defendant had put him up in a "safe house", that he owned, and that he had also spent time with him.
J: Remedies
(1) Damages
(a) the Law
[20] The general principles were reviewed and re-stated by the Court of Appeal in John -v- MGN Ltd [1997] QB 586 … Sir Thomas Bingham MR summarised the key principles at pages 607—608 in the following words:
"The successful plaintiff in a defamation action is entitled to recover, as general compensatory damages, such sum as will compensate him for the wrong he has suffered. That sum must [1] compensate him for the damage to his reputation; [2] vindicate his good name; and [3] take account of the distress, hurt and humiliation which the defamatory publication has caused. In assessing the appropriate damages for injury to reputation the most important factor is [a] the gravity of the libel; the more closely it touches the plaintiff's personal integrity, professional reputation, honour, courage, loyalty and the core attributes of his personality, the more serious it is likely to be. [b] The extent of publication is also very relevant: a libel published to millions has a greater potential to cause damage than a libel published to a handful of people. [c] A successful plaintiff may properly look to an award of damages to vindicate his reputation: but the significance of this is much greater in a case where the defendant asserts the truth of the libel and refuses any retraction or apology than in a case where the defendant acknowledges the falsity of what was published and publicly expresses regret that the libellous publication took place. It is well established that [d] compensatory damages may and should compensate for additional injury caused to the plaintiff's feelings by the defendant's conduct of the action, as when he persists in an unfounded assertion that the publication was true, or refuses to apologise, or cross-examines the plaintiff in a wounding or insulting way. Although the plaintiff has been referred to as 'he' all this of course applies to women just as much as men."
[21] I have added the numbering in this passage, which identifies the three distinct functions performed by an award of damages for libel. I have added the lettering also to identify, for ease of reference, the factors listed by Sir Thomas Bingham. Some additional points may be made which are relevant in this case:
(1) The initial measure of damages is the amount that would restore the claimant to the position he would have enjoyed had he not been defamed: Steel and Morris -v- United Kingdom (2004) 41 EHRR [37], [45].
(2) The existence and scale of any harm to reputation may be established by evidence or inferred. Often, the process is one of inference, but evidence that tends to show that as a matter of fact a person was shunned, avoided, or taunted will be relevant. So may evidence that a person was treated as well or better by others after the libel than before it.
(3) The impact of a libel on a person's reputation can be affected by:
a) Their role in society. The libel of Esther Rantzen [Rantzen -v- Mirror Group Newspapers (1986) Ltd [1994] QB 670] was more damaging because she was a prominent child protection campaigner.
b) The extent to which the publisher(s) of the defamatory imputation are authoritative and credible. The person making the allegations may be someone apparently well-placed to know the facts, or they may appear to be an unreliable source.
c) The identities of the publishees. Publication of a libel to family, friends or work colleagues may be more harmful and hurtful than if it is circulated amongst strangers. On the other hand, those close to a claimant may have knowledge or viewpoints that make them less likely to believe what is alleged.
d) The propensity of defamatory statements to percolate through underground channels and contaminate hidden springs, a problem made worse by the internet and social networking sites, particularly for claimants in the public eye: KC -v- MGN Ltd (reported with Cairns -v- Modi at [2013] 1 WLR 1051) [27].
(4) It is often said that damages may be aggravated if the defendant acts maliciously. The harm for which compensation would be due in that event is injury to feelings.
(5) A person who has been libelled is compensated only for injury to the reputation they actually had at the time of publication. If it is shown that the person already had a bad reputation in the relevant sector of their life, that will reduce the harm, and therefore moderate any damages. But it is not permissible to seek, in mitigation of damages, to prove specific acts of misconduct by the claimant, or rumours or reports to the effect that he has done the things alleged in the libel complained of: Scott -v- Sampson (1882) QBD 491, on which I will expand a little. Attempts to achieve this may aggravate damages, in line with factor (d) in Sir Thomas Bingham's list.
(6) Factors other than bad reputation that may moderate or mitigate damages, on some of which I will also elaborate below, include the following:
a) "Directly relevant background context" within the meaning of Burstein -v- Times Newspapers Ltd [2001] 1 WLR 579 and subsequent authorities. This may qualify the rules at (5) above.
b) Publications by others to the same effect as the libel complained of if (but only if) the claimants have sued over these in another defamation claim, or if it is necessary to consider them in order to isolate the damage caused by the publication complained of.
c) An offer of amends pursuant to the Defamation Act 1996.
d) A reasoned judgment, though the impact of this will vary according to the facts and nature of the case.
(7) In arriving at a figure it is proper to have regard to (a) Jury awards approved by the Court of Appeal: Rantzen, 694, John, 612; (b) the scale of damages awarded in personal injury actions: John, 615; (c) previous awards by a judge sitting without a jury: John, 608.
(8) Any award needs to be no more than is justified by the legitimate aim of protecting reputation, necessary in a democratic society in pursuit of that aim, and proportionate to that need: Rantzen ... This limit is nowadays statutory, via the Human Rights Act 1998."
(b) The evidence
"I started to receive lots of friend requests on Facebook and messages from people asking me about what happened. I didn't feel comfortable that so many people were contacting me and didn't accept anyone's requests. I was ashamed that the Defendant's videos and the whole incident had become so big. I no longer felt comfortable going outside as I didn't want people to recognise me. I started to have trouble sleeping in my house and never felt comfortable or safe, the police told my family that when I was left alone in the house that all the doors and windows should be locked.
I left my phone alone for 2 weeks after everyone started messaging me and my family told me that the best thing to do would be to delete my social media accounts. I looked at some of the messages that were really nice but some of the messages were really nasty, so I deleted my profiles such that people couldn't contact me anymore. I no longer feel comfortable using my name on social media or, when asked by strangers, I have a fake name so that people cannot track me down on social media. I don't like giving people my real name or talking about my past as I feel depressed when I think about what has happened.
Following the Defendant's publications, my family and I have been the subject of a significant number of threats and intimidating behaviour both online and in person, especially outside of our old home. On 13 November 2018, my family told the support worker that we wanted to move to a new house and that we didn't want to stay in Huddersfield. By this point, it was unsafe to even walk to the local shops without receiving verbal abuse with a very real risk of that escalating to physical abuse. … My family and I were forced to relocate from Huddersfield and move to a different part of the country to avoid risks to mine and my family's safety. This caused me and my family a lot of distress and sadness as we had not long been settled within the UK…"
"All interactions I had with Jamal were superb… I always felt that the council and the school were pushing for more [work] experience and less time in school for Jamal, which given his aspirations, I didn't particularly think was a good idea. I felt like they wanted him here more and less in school, perhaps that was their way of attempting to deal with the bullying. He often did 3-4 days a week here, and I felt this was to keep him out of the school environment. Jamal worked 9am – 3/3.30 – the hours he would usually do at school. I was responsible for supervising him whilst he was at the shop… He would always greet customers who came into the shop… and was very proactive and conscientious. I did notice him becoming maybe quite quiet when the bullying was bad, but he still had a positive attitude and got on very well with all our staff."
"I left the school at the start of Year 11 when I was meant to be taking my GCSEs. My English still was not good enough for me to get the grade I needed in order to be a pharmacist. After I left the School, I was not able to join a new school and had to apply to join a college where I could then take my GCSEs. I was not ready to take my GCSEs when I had moved from Huddersfield as there was too much disruption. My family have now moved again to a different part of the country.
I am much happier where we are now. I am still on a waiting list to join a college and want to be able to take my GCSEs so that I can train to be a pharmacist. I am still worried about what happened and don't talk about my past or mention my name if I don't have to.
I currently work in [a new job] and am happy here. However, I did get a strange call from a man who wanted to buy a car. He asked to meet with me alone, so when he drove down to collect the car it would just be the two of us. He sounded strange and kept changing where he had come from, firstly saying he was from Huddersfield, Bradford, Leeds then later from Liverpool, so I was worried and went to the police station but they told me that there was no evidence of anything wrong, but if anything else happened, I should call 999. It makes me sad that I still have to be worried about people coming after me for what happened 3 years ago. I worry that this incident is connected to the Defendant's publications and this case."
"I had a tough time at school because of the bullying, and I want to forget about it and move on. But I do not think it is fair for someone to be able to publish lies about me, as if I am a violent trouble-maker, when I am not. I have been extremely hurt by the Defendant's actions in wanting to portray me as a bad person. I want to set the record straight."
(c) Submissions
"… [I]t cannot be right in principle for a defendant to embark on a wholesale attack on the character of a claimant in a libel action heard by a judge without having to face the consequences of the actual and potential damage done to the victim both in the forensic process and as a result of further publicity. There will be occasions when the judgment will provide sufficient vindication, but whether it does so is always a fact-specific question. The judge will be well placed to assess whether the terms of the judgment do indeed provide sufficient vindication in the overall context of the case. In the present case, we think it unlikely that cricket fans will have downloaded the judgment of Bean J and read it with close attention. It is more likely, as in so many cases, that the general public (or rather, interested 'bystanders' who need to be convinced) will be concerned to discover what might be called the 'headline' result. What most people want to know, and that includes those who read the judgment closely, … is simply 'how much did he get?'"
(d) Decision
(2) Injunction
"Bailey McLaren… a child, a schoolchild, whose life [was] turned upside down over a disagreement in a school playing field."
(3) Publication of a summary of the Court's judgment: s.12 Defamation Act 2013
"(1) Where a court gives judgment for the claimant in an action for defamation the court may order the defendant to publish a summary of the judgment.
(2) The wording of any summary and the time, manner, form and place of its publication are to be for the parties to agree.
(3) If the parties cannot agree on the wording, the wording is to be settled by the court.
(4) If the parties cannot agree on the time, manner, form or place of publication, the court may give such directions as to those matters as it considers reasonable and practicable in the circumstances.
(5) This section does not apply where the court gives judgment for the claimant under section 8(3) of the Defamation Act 1996 (summary disposal of claims).
K: Final words
Appendix: Agreed transcripts of the Facebook Videos
First Video
[1] … This is about the Syrian refugee Jamal. And yes, if you're watching this, if you're one of the people … This is about the Syrian refugee Jamal who had his throat grabbed in the school up in Huddersfield.
[2] I now have it as absolute fact, I've seen images of the young girl that he was involved in beating up. This is Jamal, the innocent refugee that you people or people out there have raised a hundred thousand pounds for. A young girl was beaten badly by Muslim girls. While those Muslim girls were beating her up, Jamal was involved, in kicking, in biting her, she was bitten, she was black and blue. She had to be taken out of school and home-schooled. She had to leave that school, the same school.
[3] Her family have been to the Huddersfield Examiner with all of this, but guess what? They've refused to report it. They've refused to report it. So this young boy, this young English boy, that this young Jamal, now that we know he's not innocent and he violently attacks young English girls in his school, now we know that, and the family are terrified, because after the young Muslim girls who jumped [her], they were arrested for that, taken to court, after that they jumped her and battered her again. They battered her again. So, Jamal isn't that innocent. Jamal is the same age as the young English boy that grabbed him by the throat.
[4] Now after beating up a girl in the school, after being part of a gang that attacked a girl in the school, you'd ask why he wasn't expelled, but he wasn't expelled. You'd ask why the whole world, this has made news and world attention, because he's Syrian and he's a refugee and an English kid hit him, right. But then you'd ask what you would do, what I would have done as a 16-year-old English kid with this boy terrorising girls in my school. Now this boy, Jamal, and according cause I've heard from the child in question, he threatened to stab him. He was giving it to him, so at lunch time, he's gone and grabbed him by his throat. This Jamal isn't innocent. He beat a girl black and blue.
[5] How come no one's telling this? How come the media, cause I know now from the little girl's family, have been telling the media this. So why have the media not reported that? Why have none of them, why have none of them reported that? Why has this kid been portrayed as the ultimate victim in this whole entire country, yeah, when with a little bit of investigating, with a little bit of asking witnesses at the school, cause I've had lots of the kids from the school message me yesterday and I didn't, and d'you know what, even for who I am I was a bit worried about commenting. Ain't that sad? I was a bit worried about commenting until I just spoke to the kid's mum and dad! The little girl's mum and dad! Who showed me images of her black and bloody blue! That Jamal was involved in beating her!
[6] So to the little kids, and I've just read reports, I've just read the screenshots and messages of people saying how they're going to stab and murder this little English boy that gripped him by the throat, now you know the real story, or there was more to the story, or the fact that Jamal had been giving it to him and this kid has stood up for himself on his lunch break. Even when you watch the video, I watched the video and I thought exactly the same with that little snippet of video but that was before I spoke to other kids at the school and before I saw images of a young girl who had to leave that school. She was taken out and home-schooled for months because of Jamal and the groups of Muslim girls. Unbelievable. Unbelievable that no, none of the media would have found this out in 10 minutes.
[7] I've been busy, yeah, even today, I've literally just got onto this story, gone through my messages and I'm inundated with messages saying this isn't the true story, you're not, no one's reporting the truth on this issue…
[8] So if you've seen that story, that young boy has been driven from his home, he's been targeted by the whole, the entire left wing fascist left of this country, tracked down, found his address, posted online, threats to murder him, his mother's threats to rape her, home under constant attack, because he stood up to a Syrian refugee that beat the shit out of an English kid, and out of an English girl. That's what needs reporting.
[9] That young kid, how bad, I know people felt sorry for that Syrian kid, but bearing in mind this Syrian kid jumps and beats up girls in groups, and then a young English boy stands up to him, and the whole of England attacks him. The whole of England attacks the young English boy, without finding out the facts of what happened, without finding out what Jamal could possibly be like, without finding out any of that. Everyone comes out in full attack against the kid, and that kid's now in hiding, and there's messages, I just read one of the messages of Muslims saying we're gonna be outside your school till we find you if it takes a week, we're gonna stab you, we're gonna kill you, I've got all the messages.
[10] I'm hoping I can get an interview out of these other people, I've got all those screenshots, I've got all the images of the young girl who's been beaten up, I've got all those screenshots of the Muslims threatening to kill this child, where's all the condemnation of them threating to murder and beat him up? He grabbed someone by the throat and poured a little bit of water on him. Waterboarding. The police, the media in this country are calling that water boarding. Waterboarding. This much water poured on his head, waterboarding, cause he's Syrian, cause he's a refugee and cause the young kid was white and English. That's why this has been blown the f*** up. 10 minutes would have found this mother, 10 minutes cause she I found her, of a young girl that was beaten by the same boy.
Second Video
[1] ... Just more on this Syrian child situation at the school in Huddersfield. So we've seen the world's media portrayal of one incident at the school. An incident where a young boy (and it didn't look good) received no visible injuries to himself. Um. I've since that moment been sent pictures of young white English children, girls and boys, who haven't been attacked or had an altercation or had a physical confrontation one on one, but we have one girl, who was violently beaten by a gang of Muslim girls including this Syrian boy. That's according to all of the conversations I've had with the family of that child.
[2] Now of course, just like this young boy who grabbed the kid by the throat, everyone threatens to rape, murder, kill and destroy this family. Of course, the young girl's mum, is of course she is scared. There's been threats to blow this kid's house up. There's gangs of Muslims now outside the school. They've been outside the boy's house for two days.
[3] But the reality and the truth and the facts, from what I can understand from the pictures I am receiving, is that one girl with very visible injuries in which the police were involved. The girl, the Muslim girls jumped her, Jamal was involved, then they got taken to court, and then straight after court they jumped her again. They're still in the school, they haven't been expelled from the school. Then I've been sent another mother at the same school, has sent me an image of her 13-year-old son who was beaten by a gang of five, not one man grabbing his neck, not one boy the same age grabbing his neck, five young Muslims, who kicked the living shit out of her 13-year-old white English son. Did that make the news? Were they arrested? Was there a go fund me page set up? Was the whole nation made to feel guilty?
[4] So, at the one school this one school. Then I've had another father who is messaging me now with proof of his contact with the school, his daughter went to the school that young Muslim children in there were putting ISIS insignia on their school bags. He reported it to the school. He was told by the headteacher: "Do not fight the system." So, it seems there are a lot of problems in that school.
[5] Now you have to look at it from the young 16-year-old boy's version yeah. This happened 6 weeks ago – why has it now been elevated, right now? It happened 6 weeks ago. This was done and dusted. This Syrian boy, this happened 6 weeks ago. Now according to the young boy and according to a young girl, who had to be taken out of that school and home-schooled because their family were too scared of the Muslims in the school, who were beating them up. This is all… no one is hearing any of this, why not? Why not, when I've actually got copies, I've got copies of emails to the Huddersfield Examiner asking from the parents of the girl that was beaten up, I've got copies of the emails back and forth saying why won't you report this racist gang attack against our daughter. Why won't you report it? Their reply says: "Because your daughter's 13 it will make the situation worse for her".
[6] Ok but your quick to fucking run off and report to the world about a young boy getting gripped by his throat. All I said, which I've said yesterday, cause The Sun were running a big headline about it, according to this young girl's family Jamal isn't a victim. He was involved in the violent attack against their daughter and then according to the young boy who grabbed him by his throat, who obviously went up and said, "what are you saying now," I believe. So, something's been said before that point. Both boys are in the same year at school, both boys are the same age. There was no booting, kicking, punching. He gripped him by his throat. He's now living in complete fear and the whole country has turned on him without understanding any of what's gone on prior. Imagine being in that school. You have lots of Muslim gangs beating up loads of young English kids not one on one, but gangs booting the hell out of them and then you decide to make a stand against this kid, and you go up and grab him and then what happens? The whole world turns against you. The whole world turns against you without even knowing the fair, in fact it was one kid versus one kid. It wasn't nice to watch, no one should resort to violence on anybody but we do have a young girl that's been beaten black and blue, we have another boy at the same school which I've just put this picture up of him on my Facebook you can see it – share it. He's been beaten black and blue. His mum is scared. All of these parents are scared. The first thing they're all saying is "we're scared." Why are they scared? Look at the response to this young 16-year-old kid that grabbed another kid by the throat. The whole country, the whole of Pakistan is threatening to rape and murder his family. Of course they're scared. They're found they they're getting attacked left right and centre.
[7] Ahh anyway so Bailey, when the truth has come out, there's a one little young Syrian kid who's involved in the gang attack apparently, according to the family of which I have all the evidence. They might be saying no now because you're all threatening to rape them and murder them. They might be scared now, in fact they weren't scared now, they were scared before, they were scared even when they were talking to me. Every one of these parents who was talking to me is terrified of the response of violence by the Muslim gangs in that school and in that area. Right now we have loads of bearded Muslim men outside the school. It's a school. They're children, why are you outside the school with your big beard? What are you doing outside the school? It's kids.
[8] Well anyone who went to school. I tell you when I went to school one altercation and the Muslim men were outside the school. The men, not children, men. In fact my school had to be shut down for three days. They closed the school for three days, because the men were coming to the school to attack.
[9] So, I'm sorry but anyone who doesn't understand what goes on in these schools or doesn't understand the level of violence or doesn't understand the fact that there isn't a one-one fight. Bailey went up and it looked like he tried to have a one on one altercation with a kid – that's unheard of. When you reverse the roles – unheard of. That's why there's pictures of two young kids black and blue, beaten not by one, not by two but by three, four and five young Muslims in the same school. Report on that.
[10] Why don't the mainstream media go and interview those mums. Why don't you go -- any mainstream media watching this contact me I've got the mum talking to me right now. Showing me details of her son's injuries telling me the school's done nothing, the headteacher's done nothing, no one done nothing. No one expelled these young Muslim gangs for battering him. Yes of course Bailey was expelled, of course he was. Of course he was. The victim is Syrian. Of course he was. Anyway enough of that.