[2005] UKSSCSC CDLA_301_2005 (20 July 2005)
DECISION OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY COMMISSIONER
"The case was also complicated by the fact that the appellant did speak English relatively well although her native language was Italian. Whilst an interpreter was present it was clear that the appellant did understand much of what was said. There was a fear [expressed by the claimant's daughter] that she would guess at certain technical language and would give an incorrect answer. The Tribunal, therefore, endeavoured to ask and receive answers via the interpreter but this did prove difficult as the appellant was readily willing to answer the questions although perhaps not always able to give the correct information."
Extensive evidence from the claimant and from her daughter was recorded.
"The appellant told the Tribunal today that she was progressively and slowly getting worse and that had been the pattern of her difficulties since the date of the award. If that were the case then it logically followed to the Tribunal that if she did not satisfy the conditions for an award of the middle rate care today then she did not do so upon her first application and subsequent renewals. It therefore followed to the Tribunal that the earlier decisions had been due to ignorance of material fact as opposed to change of circumstances."
"The appellant also told the Tribunal that she had had her current needs since she moved to Crewe from Hanley some three and a half years ago. It was stated by the appellant, and her daughter, that prior to her move to Crewe she had been able to make her own meals herself and did do so and that it was only since she had moved to Crewe that her daughter made her meals for her. As her move to Crewe was only some three and a half years ago this meant that at that time the appellant was over the age of 65 and, therefore, the Tribunal concluded that it was only three and a half years ago that the appellant would have satisfied the conditions for entitlement to lowest rate care. On that basis the Tribunal felt that they could not make an award of the lowest rate of the care component today."
"It is arguable that the appeal tribunal failed to give adequate reasons for concluding that the [DAT's] decision of 9 May 1996 was given in ignorance of or under a mistake as to some material fact, when the nature of the evidence given to that appeal tribunal was not known and the claimant apparently told both the EMP of 17 July 1995 and the EMP of 12 January 2004 that she had no needs for help to go to the toilet during the night. Given the widely differing statements made by the claimant at different times, it is arguable that the appeal tribunal did not adequately explain why it was satisfied that the [DAT] of 9 May 1996 had got the facts at the time wrong."
I also mentioned a number of difficulties in the terms of Schedule 1 to the Social Security (Disability Living Allowance) Regulations 1991 (the DLA Regulations) on persons aged over 65. I shall come back to those below.
"In my submission the evidence presented to tribunal 2 shows that the need for repeated help at night was not reasonably required. The question then is whether tribunal 1 was ignorant of or mistaken as to material facts. They could not be held to be ignorant of the statements she made to the EMP in 1996 about her toilet needs. However, they could have been mistaken about the weight to be given to the evidence in the claim pack, and in particular about her command of English. It is clear from tribunal 2, who had the advantage of questioning her daughter and asking questions through an interpreter, that her ability to communicate in English was better than was thought to be the case in 1996. I therefore submit that tribunal 2 was correct to find that there were grounds to supersede tribunal 1's decision."
"1.--(1) This paragraph applies where--
(a) a person is aged 65 or over;
(b) the person has an award of disability living allowance made before he attained the age of 65;
(c) an application is made in accordance with section 9 of the 1998 Act or section 10 of that Act for that award to be revised or superseded; and
(d) an adjudicating authority is satisfied that the decision awarding disability living allowance ought to be revised or superseded.
(2) Where paragraph (1) applies, the person to whom the award relates shall not, subject to paragraph (3), be precluded from entitlement to either component of disability living allowance solely by reason of the fact that he is aged 65 or over when the revision or supersession is made.
(3) Where the adjudicating authority determining the application is satisfied that the decision ought to be superseded on the ground that there has been a relevant change of circumstances since the decision was given, paragraph (2) shall apply only where the relevant change of circumstances occurred before the person attained the age of 65."
(Signed) J Mesher
Commissioner
Date: 20 July 2005