KING'S BENCH DIVISION
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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The Chief Constable of Essex |
Defendant/ Appellant |
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Matthew Carter |
Claimant/ Respondent |
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Mr Paul Stagg (instructed by Weightmans LLP) for the Defendant/Appellant
Hearing date: 22nd January 2024
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Mr Justice Martin Spencer:
Introduction
i) £10,000 for injury to feelings;
ii) £7,125 for psychiatric injury;
iii) £5,000 for aggravated damages;
iv) £910 for special damages arising out of damage to the Claimant's clothing.
The Facts
Phase 1: The Custody Desk
• whether the detainee appears injured or unwell,
• whether the detainee needs first aid or medical treatment,
• whether the detainee appears to be under the influence of alcohol, drugs or any other substance,
• whether the detainee has any indications of self-harm,
• whether this is the first time the detainee has been in custody and so forth.
The answers to these questions enable the custody officer to make a risk assessment which will inform her as to the conditions of the detainee's detention.
"Initially the Claimant stood apart from the officers while he was talking. A number of times the officers gathered around the Claimant who was directed or pushed face down onto the custody desk from which he would try and rise and turn towards the officers, in particular Police Constable Busby and Police Constable Soontorn behind him. On some occasions he was then pushed onto the side wall with his face out facing the police officers and then back towards the custody desk being bent over it with his head on or near it. On the third or so occasion the Claimant was bent over the custody desk with various police constables' hands on his back or on the back of his head with his elbows on the custody desk. He then stands, turns back towards the officers spinning to his right so his back is to the side wall on his right. At that point there were about 4 officers around him and the desk to the front. As part of this process his handcuffed arms move across his body and upwards. At this point the Claimant is seized by officers and forced to the floor. He is surrounded by 6-7 officers including Police Constable Young, Police Constable Robert Chapman, Police Constable Stannard. Police Constable Webber, Police Constable Busby and Police Constable Soontorn. He is struck a number of times; his legs are put into leg restraints and his hands are now handcuffed behind his back so that he is thoroughly immobilised."
Phase 2: Cell 28
Phase 3: Cell 26
Further Events
"Head – injuries and swellings around the eyes and both temporal regions of head. Soft tissue swellings around the jaw, face and forehead. Some dried blood crusts noted on the nose. No active nasal bleeding. No otorrhoea or rhinorrhoea. Black eyes – right."
"The DP [detained person] has returned from SGH [Southend General Hospital] following an incident that occurred whilst he initially entered custody. The DP has visible injuries namely to his head and other parts of his body for which are recorded and have been treated at hospital where they have [declared] him medically fit. Other than that the DP doesn't have any medical issues or severe MH [mental health] issues. The DP does smell of intoxicating liquor, but hasn't consumed alcohol whilst he has been under police supervision [stale smell]. The DP is alert, coherent and communicating well. The DP is in good spirits and hasn't declared anything of a concerning nature whilst going through the question set …."
The Recorder's Findings
"118. While I have borne in mind all these legal provisions and authorities it seems to me that the key points in terms of approach of law are as follows. Firstly that the custody officer is required to seek to carry out a risk assessment. Secondly, the custody officer or indeed any police officer, if they believe it to be necessary to carry out their arrest and remand duties in order to defend themselves or in order to defend others, may use reasonable and proportionate force for that purpose. Thirdly, that a custody officer, if they believe it necessary to protect the safety of a detainee or others, can require their clothing to be removed and for that purpose can use reasonable and proportionate force. Fourthly that in terms of those beliefs, what is necessary is that it has to be both a reasonable and an honest belief. Fifthly in terms of what is reasonable, both in terms of reasonableness of belief and reasonableness of force in the light of that belief, that needs to be seen in the context of the circumstances as the relevant person honestly and reasonably believed them to be. As far as reasonableness is concerned, that is to be assessed in all the circumstances of the case especially if those circumstances were fast moving and a quick decision was required as to what to do. All of that is simply a question of 'was it reasonable' so that if there was a range of reasonable beliefs and/or responses then the fact that the relevant belief and conduct falls within such a range is sufficient.
119. However, sixthly, it is also required for the force to be proportionate, both to do the act itself and to do it with the relevant degree of violence and intrusion. Proportionality is to be assessed in all the circumstances. Seventh, and in terms of removal of clothing, paragraph 11 of Annex A to Section C of the Code applies, including in particular sub paragraph D and also sub paragraph E which I have already read into this Judgment. Also one should bear in mind that the College of Policing points avert to such matters as: The risk of self-harm by the use of clothing to form a ligature and the ability to use any clothing to do so; the risks of personal asphyxia if somebody is secured in one simple restraint position; the vulnerability of those who have caused alcohol or have mental health problems etc to do detrimental impact of being restrained; the need to balance the justification for removal of clothing and the need to protect the dignity of the relevant person; and the need to bear in mind that removing somebody's clothing, at least forcibly, may be a worse option to the carrying out of close observation to ensure that they do not harm themselves." (Emphasis added).
The words underlined are critical to the principal issue on this appeal.
Findings in relation to Phase 1
"160… It seems to me, firstly, that the police officers did honestly and reasonably believe there had been a bite and that the punches were a reasonable response in the sense that they obviously and reasonably believed that it was necessary to subdue the Claimant. It seems to me that they were so justified in coming to that conclusion in the circumstances of their honest and reasonable beliefs and that the punches they administered were proportionate in those particular circumstances."
Findings in relation to Phase 2
"A strip search was authorised by Sgt 42161 Bailey at 17:25 on 14/12/2017 for the reason to remove an article which the detainee is not allowed to keep on the grounds of the officer has reasonable grounds for believing that a strip search is the only means of removing the item(s). THE DP IS VIOLENT AND HAD TO BE TAKEN TO THE CELL. A STRIP SEARCH IS ONLY BEING AUTHORISED FOR THE PURPOSE OF CHANGING HIM INTO ANTI-SELF-HARM CLOTHING AS HE CANNOT BE RISK ASSESSED. THIS WILL INVOLVE THE EXPOSURE OF INTIMATE PARTS OF HIS BODY."
I consider this entry further at paragraph 49 below. Then there is Sgt Bailey's entry in the custody record which was as follows (but actually written in capitals):
"I could see that when he had been lifted up and moved there was some blood on the floor from where his face had been. I'm unsure if that was from the blood he originally had on his face when entering custody or from any new injury. When officers got to cell 28 he was placed face down on the mattress facing the back of the cell. He continued to try and kick out at officers even though he still had the limb restraints around his legs. His shoes were removed by PC Young and thrown out the cell. PC Young and PC Stannard removed the limb restraints and then his jeans. At some point the male kicked out towards officers when the limb restraints were removed. PC Stannard then folded his legs up behind him to gain control of his legs. The male was still verbally expressive towards officers and trying to get up. Due to him being handcuffed, rear-stacked, his coat could not be removed without removing the handcuffs. Therefore PC Young used the custody safety clothing cutter to cut the male's coat, jumper and t-shirt off him. His coat was filled with feathers which went everywhere in the cell when this [was] done. At some point after his clothing had been cut off the male complained that he couldn't breathe, he was spitting feathers away from himself. He was immediately moved onto his left side to help with his breathing. All officers picked the male up while he was still handcuffed and he was carried face down to another cell, cell 26, where it was free from feathers."
"That is what we do to women beaters"
but the Recorder found that those words were not said. Police Constable Chapman is heard on the audio record to say,
"You might need a sex education. It's not a rape".
The Recorder found this to be a highly inappropriate comment to make to a person in the Claimant's position in those circumstances. Police Constable Chapman also said, when the Claimant asked what was going on,
"We are cutting your clothes off you because you have been violent."
The Recorder accepted the Claimant's evidence that he was incredibly frightened and that what happened to him was deeply degrading and humiliating.
"On the other hand it does seem to me that it is some evidence of the fact that Police Sgt Bailey simply had come to something of an automatic conclusion, albeit one which she effectively continued to make and remake."
He found that the basis for commanding the removal of the Claimant's clothing was not to carry out a search or to locate items. However, he disagreed with the submission of Mr Wand for the Claimant that, if the purpose was not to search, then the actions of the police could not fall within Section 54 of PACE. The Recorder compared the situation here with the similar situation in PD -v- Merseyside Police where it was held that clothing could be seized and forcibly removed if a custody officer reasonably believed that a person may use them within Section 54 (4) (a) purposes, that is to say to cause physical injury either to themselves or to another person, referring to paragraph 35 of that Judgment. The Recorder also referred to paragraph 39 of the Judgment, interpreting that paragraph as meaning that,
"the custody officer must act properly and reasonably in concluding that there is such an urgent necessity."
He said that the same approach was effectively adopted in the case of Pile -v- Chief Constable of Merseyside Police. Then, in an important passage for the purposes of this Appeal, the Recorder addressed the question as to the reasons for the decision to remove the Claimant's clothing. He said:
"173. The question then arises as to what were the reasons for the decision. In the custody record it says, firstly, that the claimant is violent and cannot be risk assessed and, secondly, refers to blood on face, biting, struggling and resisting. In evidence Police Sgt Bailey said, first, that it was standard Essex Police procedure if a detainee is a violent person for the custody officer to authorise the forcible change of them into a self-harm suit as a result of risk to others or self. She then repeated that if the individual does not answer risk assessment questions and is violent, then the custody officer should consider that the detainee could be violent and could self-harm and, if so, then the custody officer must order a forcible swap of their clothing for an anti-self-harm suit. That is to say, that the swap of clothing must be ordered and that the circumstances will therefore require forcible removal of the existing clothing.
174. She did, however, then go on to say that this was not automatic, and detainees were to be treated individually. She did not explain as to what the individual treatment might be in circumstances which would involve a deviation from such a general policy. She went on to say that she could not leave a situation where the leg restraints were left on the claimant; and that he could not be simply observed, even with his handcuffs secured behind his back, as he might hit himself in some way or other such as banging his head on the floor and that she could not leave an observing officer at risk of being assaulted.
175. She pointed to the fact that any item could be used to create a ligature, and that the claimant had blood on his face although there was no suggestion that that was as a result of him being harmed by himself as opposed to by the others involved in the previous altercations. I do also bear in mind that Police Constable Chapman said in cell 28 that the reason for the forcible removal was that the claimant had been violent.
176. I conclude on all the evidence the actual reasons for the custody officer both to order and continue to order that the claimant's clothes be forcibly removed while the claimant was lying face down and was restrained by numerous officers (as it seems to me was obvious was going to happen and as Police Sgt Bailey ultimately observed through her own CCTV) was a mixture of a number of matters. Firstly, that Police Sgt Bailey knew that the claimant had refused to answer the risk assessment questions. Secondly, that Police Sgt Bailey had concluded at the custody stage that the claimant had done something which appeared to involve a risk that the claimant would be violent resulting in an instant decision to throw him to the ground. Thirdly, that Police Sgt Bailey knew that the claimant when thrown to the ground had struggled and sought to resist and including by a bite. Fourthly, that Police Sgt Bailey thought there was a general direction from superiors that clothing should be forcibly removed where a detainee had refused to answer risk assessment questions simply because, as a result, the police sergeant would be unable to assess the risk of self-harm in the context of answers to questions which had not been answered; and that Police Sgt Bailey had thought that this policy applied all the more so where a detainee had done something which might suggest that that detainee could be violent. Fifthly, that Police Sgt Bailey, having taken that decision in effectively a quick spur of the moment circumstances, decided that she had no reason to revisit it and did not do so.
177. Sixthly, I feel that Police Sgt Bailey much more thought that she was ordering this in order to avoid the potential for the claimant harming himself, and was only to a much more limited degree concerned that the claimant could or would harm officers in circumstances. I say this because, firstly, where there was no suggestion that the claimant might have any weapon on him. Secondly, the claimant had already been searched to a considerable degree. Thirdly, the claimant's clothing was not obviously such as would obviously be capable of being used as a weapon. Fourthly, any propensity of the claimant to exert violence to others would only relate to his potential to be violent if he was released in order to remove clothing.
178. Next I note and bear in mind the following where the claimant ended up in what was a profoundly humiliating and degrading experience without being given any warning that that would or might occur. Firstly, he refused to answer the risk assessment questions; but which I note any detainee is entirely entitled to refuse to answer - there is no legal compulsion for the claimant to say anything, let alone answer those particular questions. Secondly, this arose from circumstances where the claimant had made a movement which might in very fast moving circumstances suggest an attempt to attack or a preparatory step to attempt to attack police officers; but which were actually circumstances where, in fact as I have held, it was a mere innocent attempt to stand up and clear space, and where any reasonable observer given a real opportunity to consider the matter with time would, in my view, come to a conclusion that that was all that the claimant was seeking to do. Thirdly, these are circumstances where the claimant has the benefit of a presumption of innocence, although, obviously, the police officers were faced with what they had been told by the various informants."
"181. I conclude as follows. Firstly, as I have said before, the custody officer, or for that matter police officers, could forcibly remove clothing if the situation came within section 54(6) as interpreted in PD and Pile. However, the police would need a reasonable belief that such a step was necessary to prevent the clothing being used to cause physical injury to the claimant or to the police and must act proportionately and reasonably. Secondly, that "reasonably and proportionately" must be seen in the context, and in the light of paragraph 11D of Annex A, that any event of this nature must be carried out with proper regard to the sensitivity and vulnerability of the claimant, and that every reasonable effort must be made to secure the claimant's cooperation and prevent embarrassment, and that it is not normally required to remove all of a person's clothes at the same time. Also this is to be seen in the light of the College of Policing guidelines that: a detainee must be treated with respect; the process should involve an attempt where possible to de-escalate matters; the negative impacts of restraints and such a process on somebody who has consumed alcohol and may have mental health difficulties must be borne in mind; all clothing can be used to cause ligatures; and there must be a balance of the risks and the need to treat the detainee with dignity, and that the mere removal of clothing itself can increase the risk of self-harm and that observation may be the more appropriate course.
182. I have held that Police Sgt Bailey and the police officers' primary actual motivation was the belief that they were required to remove the clothing where the detainee had not answered risk assessment questions simply because that itself would suggest a risk of self-harm, although this was also combined with a fear that the claimant had threatened to attack officers already. I have come to a conclusion that neither the decision to forcibly remove the clothing, nor the method of that being affected by an instant transport and immediate forcible removing by stripping and cutting off the claimant's clothes, was either reasonable or proportionate. I also have concluded that the fear that there was a real likelihood or possibility that the claimant, if given time to reflect, would self-harm or be violent to police officers was not a reasonable belief for the Police Sgt Bailey and the police officers to hold.
183. I come to those conclusions for the following main sets of reasons. Firstly, the taking of these decisions by the police had no urgency unlike the assault situation in the custody suite. The claimant was handcuffed, had leg restraints on him and at that point posed no threat to anyone. If the leg restraints were removed then it is true that the claimant would have been able to stand up and move around and potentially seek to injure himself by head banging and the like, but the same would apply whether he was wearing clothes or not. It seems to me that these were circumstances where plenty of time was available for the police to reflect, assess and take considered decisions rather than the sort of decisions which had to be taken in the custody suite.
184. Secondly, the police had plenty of resource to use in terms of police officers available to restrain and hold the claimant. That was clear with regards to what happened in the custody suite and what happened in each of cells 26 and 28. This was not a situation where the police had limited resource in terms of the number of officers available.
185. Thirdly, unlike in the Pile case the claimant had [not] clearly expressly refused to consent.
186. Fourthly, I am unable to see any reason as to why Police Sgt Bailey or the other police officers should reasonably have concluded that there was any risk of self-harm by reason of use of the claimant's clothing. Firstly, the claimant had done nothing to suggest any desire to self-harm, there was no history before the police or otherwise, long-term or short-term, of any previous episode of self-harm unlike in the PD case. Secondly, I note, and bear in mind, that the claimant had not answered any of the risk assessment questions. In fact, the claimant had not actually said that he was never going to do so, he had simply sought to insist that the police officers answer him first and deal with his complaint first. But it does not seem to me that that matters. The claimant was under no obligation to answer any of the questions. The mere fact that somebody does not answer questions on a risk assessment does not mean in any way that they are any risk to themselves. The question as to whether they are at any risk to themselves needs to be considered in all the circumstances, and it does not seem to me that there are any particularly relevant circumstances which suggested any risk of self-harm.
187. It seemed to me at times that the police case was getting close to saying that if somebody says that they are not going to answer risk assessment questions, the police should then consider that they are at risk of self-harm and should forcibly strip them. That is a somewhat extreme way of putting the police's submission, and I am sure Mr Stagg would say that that is not an accurate way of putting it, but it does seem to me that in the circumstances of this case the police's actual case was getting close to that. It simply does not seem to me that it is a justified jump from the fact that somebody is not prepared to answer risk assessment questions to say that they are therefore at such a risk of self-harm by way of use of their clothing that it should be forcibly removed from them.
188. I do note that the claimant had been reasonably perceived, as I have already held, as to have previously threatened violence and then resisted once he was forced down and submerged by police officers on the custody suite floor. However, while I have held that the police officers could reasonably think that there was such a threat in what was then a fast moving situation, it seems to me that they needed now to reassess the situation at leisure and in a calm way. The reassessment would include whether the claimant ever was actually making a threat, but, even if they had come to the conclusion that that was still the case, that did not lead to any reason to suppose that the claimant might harm himself or that he might threaten self-harm in due course. It seems to me that the question of self-harm, if it was to be considered, was such a question as needed to be considered on the basis of observing the claimant first and seeing whether or not there was any real risk."
Findings in relation to Phase 3
The Submissions for the Appellant
"Clothes and personal effects may only be seized if the custody officer –
(a) Believes that the person from whom they are seized may use them -
(i) To cause physical injury to himself of any other person."
"17. Entry for purpose of arrest etc
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(2) except for the purpose specified in paragraph (e) of subsection (1) above, the powers of entry and search conferred by this Section –
(a) Are only exercisable if the Constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whom he is seeking is on the premises … "
"24 Arrest without Warrant: Constables
(1) A constable may arrest without a warrant –
a) Anyone who is about to commit an offence;
b) Anyone who is in the act of committing an offence;
c) Anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an offence;
d) Anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an offence.
(2) If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence has been committed, he may arrest without a warrant anyone whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it.
(3) If an offence has been committed, the constable may arrest without a warrant –
(a) Anyone who is guilty of the offence;
(b) Anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it."
"Where any provision of this Act –
a) Confers a power on a constable;
b) Does not provide that the power may only be exercised with the consent of some person, other than a police officer,
The officer may use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of the power."
Submissions on behalf of the Respondent
"33. … Ms Sikand argued that, read as a whole, Section 54 contemplates the seizure of clothing pursuant to the power under subsections (3) and (4) as the end result of a 'search' conducted under the power given by Section 54 (6) or (6A), whether the officer is looking for property other than clothing or is seizing the clothing itself. I consider that Ms Sikand is right. In my judgment, reading Code C, paragraph 4 together with Section 54, the Code applies to the exercise of all the powers given to custody officers in Section 54, including the power to remove and seize clothing under subsections (3) and (6A). It would make little sense for paragraph (4) to apply to clothing retained as a result of search for some other thing but not to clothing removed because it was itself liable to seizure under subsection (4).
34. Code C paragraph (4) proceeds on the assumption that when performing his responsibility under Section 54 (1) it may be necessary for the custody officer to require the removal of the detainee's clothing. Section 54 (6A) treats an examination of the detainee in order to 'ascertain' whether the detainee has clothing that should be seized under Sections (3) and (4) (a) as a search. While the word 'search' may not describe exactly what PS Gilmour ordered in the Claimant's case, in my opinion it was a search for the purpose of Section 54 and Code C, paragraph 4. Paragraph 4.1 states that when the custody officer considers it necessary that more than outer clothing should be removed, Annex A applies.
35. Annex A, paragraph 10 provides that a strip search should take place only when the officer reasonably considers that the detainee may have 'concealed' an article that she would not be allowed to keep. Paragraph 10 fails to provide for those situations, anticipated by Section 54, in which the custody officer wishes to seize any clothing that may be used by the detainee to harm herself. That is a lacuna in the Code, but paragraph 11 of Annex A applies to any strip search, not just to those strip searches carried out in compliance with paragraph 10. Since it is my view that the Claimant was searched within the meaning of Section 54 (6A) and that, by Code C, paragraph 4.1, and Annex A, paragraph 9, she was strip searched, the search was to be conducted, so far as the context allowed, in accordance with Annex A paragraph 11. It is entirely to be expected that Annex A should protect all those in custody whose clothing is removed under a power given by Section 54."
"I do not see any reason as to why the Claimant would not [have listened and calmed down]; he would have had no choice but to listen but, in any event, he could not make a choice unless he had been given it and had options explained to him. It seems to me that a restrained Claimant would have been likely to have eventually calmed down, as he did from time to time in the holding cells, and to have listened."
"Had I been given the opportunity I would have agreed to remove my clothes."
He repeated this in his evidence. Mr Wand also referred to the guidance from the College of Policing which referred to the fact that exchanging clothing may increase a risk of self-harming and 'leaving a detainee in their own clothing can help to normalise their situation. Some observation or observation within closed proximity (Level 3 or 4) may be a more appropriate control measure.'
Discussion and Decision
"Fourthly, that in terms of those beliefs, what is necessary is that has to be both a reasonable and an honest belief."
This then reappears in numerous places: eg, at paragraph 182 he said:
"I have come to a conclusion that neither the decision to forcibly remove the clothing nor the method of that being affected by instant transport and immediate forcible removing by stripping and cutting off the Claimant's clothes was either reasonable or proportionate."
Again, at paragraph 186, he said:
"Fourthly, I am unable to see any reason as to why Police Sgt Bailey or the other police officers should reasonably have concluded that there was any risk of self-harm by reason of use of the Claimant's clothing." (Emphasis added).
And at paragraph 192, the Recorder said:
"I consider that the beliefs that the purpose of removal of clothing was to prevent the Claimant using it to harm himself or police officers both lacked any reasonable basis and also were potentially irrational."
"MR WAND: Just before we come on to deal with matters containing your statement custody record, another matter to deal with initially: you were asked – I'll go back to the start for clarity. You said you could hear yourself saying cell 26.
A. Yes.
Q. You said you couldn't hear anything else.
A. No.
Q. And you were asked what would you have said.
A. Yes.
Q. You said I – something along the lines of what would have been said is that there was a self-harm suit in the cell.
A. Yes.
Q. But you don't remember saying those words.
A. No.
Q. So your answer is yes.
A. It's ---
Q. Assumption?
A. It's standard procedure. Every time anything – an incident happened like this, it was standard procedure somebody would take them to the cell and they'd be changed in a self- harm suit.
RECORDER DAGNALL: Sorry, it's standard procedure to …?
A. If, if there was a – find a person you couldn't risk assess, it would be authorised for them to be changed into a self-harm suit as we couldn't assess whether they was going to be a risk to themselves or anyone else. Most officers knew if you said to a cell they'd be changed into a self-harm suit. There'd normally be one there ready.
MR WAND: Let's deal with that – we'll deal with that point now. Are – is your evidence that it is Essex Police's procedure that if a detainee does not answer any risk assessment questions that it automatically follows that they are strip-searched?
A. Not automatically, no. And it's not a strip-search in the sense of a full strip-search. It's just the changing into self-harm clothing. It's not a proper search you would do if you're looking for drugs.
Q. But you'll accept all of Mr Carter's clothes ---
A. Yes.
Q. --- were removed.
A. Yes. That's why we'd have to record it as a strip-search.
Q. So it's a strip ---
A. To change into other clothing, but it's not a strip-search in the sense of looking more closely for things hidden.
…
Q. So looking at that entry, is your evidence that the reason that Mr Carter was strip-
searched was that he couldn't be assessed?
A. He was fine and to – could be assessed. That's the main, the main reasons.
Q. So tell me what does violence have to do with this?
A. If, if somebody's just standing there and refusing to answer the questions, you have time to then look at their previous history and see whether you think they're a risk, but if they're not answering your questions and being violent to the officer, you've got to be aware that they might harm themselves or other officers, which gives you more reason why they should change into self-harm clothing to prevent injury to anyone.
Q. So the violence is just relevant to the lack of the ability of you to do a risk assessment?
A. Part of that is, yes.
Q. And so if a person is violent and that is the reason they don't answer the questions ---
A. Yes.
Q. --- are you saying that it automatically follows therefrom that they are strip-searched?
A. Not automatically. It depends how, how they're being violent. So any information officers have given me, if they're somebody that's known to me and I can look at their previous history it – every situation is different.
Q. You first said it – as how they're being violent.
A. Mm.
Q. Well we've just gone through the fact that the violence is only relevant ---
A. Mm.
Q. --- to the not being able to assess them.
A. No.
Q. The violence isn't relevant to whether they are likely to self-harm, is it?
A. It can be because some people can be violent in custody where they're hitting officers and also trying to punch themselves in the face so they can, they can be doing both.
Q. Had you seen Mr Carter hit himself in the face at any point?
A. I hadn't. No.
RECORDER DAGNALL: Sorry, what hadn't you seen?
A. Sorry?
RECORDER DAGNALL: What ---
A. I hadn't seen him hit himself.
Q. Did you have – were you told at all that Mr Carter had any mental health issues?
A. No. Unfortunately there wasn't enough time to get any information. I tried to speak to him myself about the injuries on his face. I didn't know how they had been sustained and that's why I was trying to get information from him so I could assess him properly.
Q. You didn't have any concerns about his mental health, did you?
A. He wasn't – given that he wasn't speaking to me to be able to find out if there was
any concern so, no. He wasn't at the desk long enough for me to assess him.
Q. You didn't believe that he was suicidal.
A. I had, I had no idea. He wouldn't answer me about the injuries to his face, how they occurred. He wouldn't speak to us. He then behaves like that. I had no idea whether he'd got any intention to self-harm while he was in custody.
Q. So the reason for him being placed into – the reason for him being stripped to allow him to be – to put on a self-harm suit is only because you did not know.
A. We didn't know. He wasn't helping. He wouldn't explain anything to us. It was for his and everyone's safety and due to him being violent as well.
Q. What do you mean everyone else's safety?
A. Well the officers' because the way he was reacting to the officers when they were standing at the desk and I was trying to talk to him, it was how he was reacting. You don't know whether if they're behaving like that a detention officer goes round to visit them, they take their clothes off and they try and use it as a ligature on an officer. You don't know. See, if you can't assess them as being violent and there's no risk assessment, for everyone's safety
they're given a self-harm suit to wear."
"…if somebody's just standing there and refusing to answer the questions, you have time to then look at their previous history and see whether you think they're a risk"
and she also said
"Not automatically. It depends how, how they're being violent. So any information officers have given me, if they're somebody that's known to me and I can look at their previous history it – every situation is different."
In my judgment, the learned Recorder did a significant disservice to the evidence which Sgt Bailey actually gave, and her evidence constituted a coherent, and in my view eminently reasonable, account of her thought processes including the fact that the decision was not automatic but depended on the information available to her.
"A strip search was authorised by Sgt 42161 Bailey at 17:25 on 14/12/2017 for the reason to remove an article which the detainee is not allowed to keep on the grounds of the officer has reasonable grounds for believing that a strip search is the only means of removing the item(s). THE DP IS VIOLENT AND HAD TO BE TAKEN TO THE CELL. A STRIP SEARCH IS ONLY BEING AUTHORISED FOR THE PURPOSE OF CHANGING HIM INTO ANTI-SELF-HARM CLOTHING AS HE CANNOT BE RISK ASSESSED. THIS WILL INVOLVE THE EXPOSURE OF INTIMATE PARTS OF HIS BODY." (Emphasis added)
Sgt Bailey explained to the court below that the words not in capitals are part of the computerised system and form the only way of entering the event. However the words in capitals are Sgt Bailey's own words and, as it seems to me, the clue lies in the reference to 'anti-self-harm clothing'. The purpose of changing someone into anti-self-harm clothing is to avoid the risk of the detained person using his own clothing to harm himself, hence the need for anti-self-harm clothing. Thus, the purpose of removing the Claimant's clothes is clearly expressed by Sgt Bailey in this entry in the custody record.
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