CHANCERY DIVISION
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SANDRA BLACKMAN & Ors. | Claimants | |
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KIM SING MAN & Ors. | Defendants |
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MISS P. REED (instructed by Harcus Sinclair) appeared on behalf of the First and Second Defendants.
MR. R. WILSON (of Counsel) appeared on behalf of the Third Defendant.
MR. W. HENDERSON (instructed by the Attorney General) appeared on behalf of the Fourth Defendant.
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SIR DONALD RATTEE:
THE FACTS
"She did not know if she was going the right way or not, and she felt like a sleepyhead".
"My impression of this lady is that she is very anxious, may possibly be depressed, but probably has a mild dementing illness".
Dr. Greenwood also told Dr. Dymond that she had made an appointment to see Mrs. Bechal again.
"To summarise, she [that is Mrs. Bechal] is a somewhat agitated depressive since the deaths, very close together, of her husband and her son about sixteen years ago from which her niece feels she has never properly recovered.
Added to this is an increasing confusion over dates, times and tablets -- in fact anything which could be confused! She telephones me about three times a week about her various tablets, and telephoned me last night about 10 pm thinking that it was 10 am the following day; as you know we have made various appointments for her to attend you, most of which have been cancelled because she has either forgotten or lost the appointment card.
She herself feels that she is somewhat depressed but not really confused for her age, but I feel that her confusion is much more than is suitable for her age and she cannot manage without help in the home and out of it".
"The brain scan showed some minor ischaemic changes predominantly in the frontal region, but nil else of significance.
Mrs. Bechal did not recognise me when I greeted her and did not recognise which room to go to for our interview. She was unaware of the date and said she was shaky because she had not slept. She repeatedly said how competent she was and how she manages her business with the help of her agent and accountant. She did however add that at times she feels muddled and tries to write everything down. She also admitted that she would like to have someone with her in the evening. She had put an advert in the paper for a carer, and was interviewing someone.
Mrs. Blackman [that is the first claimant] told me that her aunt had been overwhelmed by the deaths of her son and husband some 16 years ago and had never managed to work through her grief. Nevertheless she had been functioning. She has a business manager who has been running her affairs for a long time and apparently also pays the bills and runs her own personal financial affairs. She appears to have very little social life but was always very secretive. The niece thought there had been no support at home other than that provided by au pairs in the past. She also reported that her aunt had been worried that she might be leaving the gas on. Mrs. Bechal was reported to have been the jolliest person in the family and that her more negative approach recently was not the way she used to be.
On examination, Mrs. Bechal obviously had some nominal difficulty and was very repetitive".
"On examination Mrs. Bechal seemed rather vague and disorientated. She has absolutely no insight into her difficulties".
Dr. Greenwood advised that Mrs. Bechal should continue taking the antidepressant drug.
"Did not seem to engage with me in any particular way at all. It was just as if the lights were out".
"In April 1994 when we were visiting the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem she [that is Mrs. Bechal] held my hand on the wall and said, 'I wish you will have everything you ever want'. The same evening in the hotel she said she wanted to sort out her will when she returned home. She said Kim and I [that is Mr. Man and Mrs. Man] had been so good to her and cared for her. She mentioned the day she had her scan, and she said she was grateful to us for our help. She said I was a daughter she never had".
"Your home | £300,00 |
Personal possessions, jewellery etcetera | £90,000 |
Furniture | £100,000 |
Building society accounts | £100,000 |
Cars | £2,000" |
"I wish Barclays to act as my sole executor".
"1 To Rab Vocal R-A-B V-O-C-A-L, £5,000
2 To Alana Cohen, of an address in Israel £500
3 To Maisie Lebor [Mrs. Bechal' sister] £3,000
4 To Laurence Lebor [Laurence spelt L-A-U-R-A-N-C-E, Lebor, the third claimant] £500"
"A separate sheet of paper"
and put a tick against them – no doubt intended to indicate, as was the fact, that she did include a separate sheet when she sent the form off to the bank.
"Please pay to the beneficiary's children, if any, as survive me".
1 | £1,000 | to "Louise Lebor", by which Mrs. Bechal appears to have met the fourth claimant, Louise Barnard, née Lebor |
2 | £300 | to one Chazan Lionel |
3 | £1,000 | to the first claimant, referred to on this sheet of paper as, "Sandra Benjy Black". |
4 | £2,000 | to Mrs. Bechal's accountant for many years, Maurice Esterson |
5 | £1,000 | to the Jewish Home and Hospital |
6 | £1,000 | to Great Ormond, mis-spelled O-R-M-A-N-D Street Hospital |
7 | £5,000 | to the NSPCC |
"My brother Philip Harbour had provided for my sisters' families, so I only give certain cash to nephews and nieces".
"I am very grateful to Kim and you. You are both very lucky".
"I will like to make a codicil to add to my Will I made with you and signed at Barclays Bank in Park Lane in May 1994.
I want to cancell my gift of £3,000 to Maurice Esterson, Sarah and Sachal Estersion, of 9 Ridgeway Place, Wimbledon, SW19. I will like to make a gift of £10,000 to British, Federation of Women Zionist of Great Britain & Ireland, 107 Gloucester Place, London [and the post code is given].
I will sign the codicil at Park Lane, Barclays Bank,
Yours faithfully",
and then Mrs. Bechal signed it.
"She had a very good recollection of the property she owned".
"This lady was brought to me in the company of a Solicitor and a Banker to see if she was fit to sign a new will. I found her to be in a confused state. She was unaware of the day, time or month and was unaware of the name of the Prime Minister of this country. She had a standard screening test done initially. She also did not seem to know why she was here.
My feeling was that this woman was not in a fit state to be changing plans of her will at present. My recommendations are that, if there are any further problems, she should be fully assessed by Mr. Alan Braverman at the Lister Hospital, who is a Consultant Geriatrician with an interest in memory loss".
"I attempted to assess her testamentary capacity: she understood what was meant by Will but was unable to give any indication of the extent of her property or who might have a claim upon it. She did not express any frank delusional ideas. She does, however, show signs of marked cognitive impairment which might affect her judgment.
Comparison of her current mental … [I think the word 'state' must have been omitted] with that described in my letter to you of 8th November 1993, shows there has been quite a marked deterioration.
We discussed the matter with the lawyer present and were all agreed that Mrs. Bechal is not able to give a meaningful power of attorney. In my view, she is not of testamentary capacity either".
TESTAMENTARY CAPACITY – THE TEST
"The testator
1 needs to understand that he is making a will and that it will have the effect of carrying out his wishes on death.
2 He must understand the extent of the property he is disposing of
3 He must recall those who have claims on him and understand the nature of those claims so that he can both include and exclude beneficiaries from the will
4 No disorder of the mind should poison his affections, pervert his sense of right or prevent the exercise of his natural faculties, and no insane delusion should influence his will or poison his mind".
THE EXPERT MEDICAL EVIDENCE
"… was not such that Mrs. Bechal did not have testamentary capacity in December 1993".
"The problem is to extrapolate Mrs. Bechal's mental state between December 1993 and March 1995, with special reference to 1994.
Mrs. Bechal was mildly demented in 1993. She was significantly disabled by March 1995, two years later. I consider that on the balance of probabilities, by August 1994 Mrs. Bechal was not of testamentary capacity.
It is more difficult to be certain about her state in May 1994. The likelihood is that her condition deteriorated in the five months from December 1993 and continued to deteriorate. This would not necessarily have been a smooth decline. My best guess, on the balance of probabilities having reviewed all the evidence available to me, is that Mrs. Bechal was not of testamentary capacity in May 1994".
"In my opinion, by reason of dementia due to Alzheimer's disease Golda Bechal lacked the necessary capacity to make a will when she executed the two Wills in 1994, because: first, she would have failed to appreciate the extent and financial complexities of her large estate; and secondly, that her judgment and opinion of her relatives could have been significantly distorted. Furthermore, also due to dementia, she would not have been able fully to understand the consequences, eg inheritance tax liabilities, of making the wills that she did execute".
"Mrs. Bechal was at the early stages of her experience of Alzheimer's disease in May and August 1994. Based on this information I consider it more probable than not that Mrs. Bechal did have testamentary capacity at this time".
"The information that is to be recorded on this form is relevant to three components of the test of an individual's testamentary capacity:
Understanding the nature of the act and its effects
Understanding the extent of property
Appreciation of those who might be expected to benefit from the estate.
As I have already commented I am not clear regarding the circumstances in which Mrs. Bechal completed this form – in particular whether she was alone or had any assistance in terms of understanding the questions. She has indicated her choice of burial and referred to her Rabi. This suggests that Mrs. Bechal understood that the Will would come into action following her death.
Mrs. Bechal has completed the section regarding her assets but it is not clear whether this is a reasonable assessment of her assets or not. There is no indication whether or not she appreciated the extent of her wealth.
Mrs. Bechal made a number of specific legacies to individuals and specified the amount of these. In this document Mrs. Bechal was able to give relevant addresses and the amount of each bequest was varied between £300 and £5,000. She divided the residue of her estate between two further individuals who she names as 'best friends'. Furthermore, Mrs. Bechal indicates some of the reasoning behind her determination of who to leave a bequest to as indicated on the handwritten document by the statement, 'My Brother Philip Harbour had provided for my sisters families so I only give certain cash to my nephew and nieces'. Clearly a competent individual has the right to dispose of their assets to whoever the individual chooses and the information on the form does address Mrs. Bechal's reasoning behind her choice.
It is my opinion that this documentation indicates that Mrs. Bechal did have an understanding of the extent of her property and an appreciation of those who might be expected to benefit from her estate. Moreover, she indicated her reasoning behind some of the decisions she made in regard to the distribution of her estate. Taking this information into account I am of the opinion that it is very probable that Mrs. Bechal did have testamentary capacity on the key dates of May and August 1994".
(a) the fact, as I find it to be, that Mrs. Bechal in May 1994 obtained the Barclays will instruction form and filled it in without any assistance;
(b) the manner in which she completed the form; and
(c) the contents of the separate sheet she submitted with the form.
1 understood that she was intending to make a will and that it would have the effect of carrying out her wishes on death; and
2 recalled those who had claims on her and understood the nature of those claims so that she could both include and exclude beneficiaries from her will.
WANT OF KNOWLEDGE AND APPROVAL
CONCLUSION
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes. What are those orders?
MISS REED: My Lord, in those circumstances if you will pronounce for the validity of the will in August 1994.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MISS REED: And there remains the question of costs, and my very straightforward submission to your Lordship will be that costs should follow the event, that that is the primary position, and even in a probate case ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Any objection to that?
MR. LLOYD: My Lord, yes. The principles of Spiers & English still apply. That is made clear by the case of Carapeto v Good and I can hand up a copy of that report in a moment.
This is a case where there were serious issues surrounding the issues of capacity and knowledge and approval. My Lord has heard the evidence; my Lord has reached a decision. But there were still serious issues.
The family, in my submission, acted with restraint and responsibility, and were right to have this matter brought before the court to be tested. Dr. Greenwood's evidence in particular, and Dr. Moonie's findings in 1995 cast a very very serious doubt over Mrs. Bechal's capacity. Professor Howard's report was consistent with the views of Dr. Greenwood, and Dr. Royston's report is dated in June 2007, so that … very late in the day. The inappropriate use of the will writing service by Mrs. Bechal in that context, also raised very serious issues about her knowledge and approval.
Had the claimants succeeded, then, in fact, my Lord does not know this yet, but, had the claimants succeeded, then the residual issues with the Attorney General had in fact been resolved and a good part of this estate, the seven-ninths, would have gone off to charity. Those issues had been resolved.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Well, they would if the Attorney General had succeeded, you mean.
MR. LLOYD: No, my Lord. The family -- I in fact agreed with my learned friend that those matters including the cy-près issues were going short and we were not going to oppose a reconstruction of the 1988 will.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I see, yes.
MR. LLOYD: Or a cy-près application of the past. The claimants, of course, must take responsibility for their own decisions about the bringing of these proceedings, but those concerns were shared by the Attorney, who opposed the wills on the same grounds. The fact that we were left to fight the battle and the Attorney to save costs, did not cover the same ground, does not detract from that.
In the premises, my Lord, we would submit that this is a case where the costs should, notwithstanding my Lord's finding, still be raised and paid out of the estate in due course of administration.
My Lord, perhaps I should take you to the case of Carapeto v Good.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: My Lord, in fact in Carapeto v Good, there was also the issue of undue influence, which obviously does not arise in this particular case.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: No.
MR. LLOYD: And the outcome of the costs hearing was that the unsuccessful defendant, who had contested the validity of the will, found liable to pay the claimant's costs in relation to the undue influence point because, of course, the claimant could not be expected to bear the costs of clearing their own name; but it was held that there were proper grounds for an investigation into the issues of want of knowledge and approval, and ultimately, the order made was that the defendant had to pay a proportion of the claimant's costs.
Now, the principles, if my Lord sees at the start of the judgment.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: The relevant passage from Spiers & English is there cited:
"In deciding questions of costs one has to go back to the principles which govern cases of this kind. One of those principles is that if a person who makes a will or persons who are interested in the residue have been really the cause of the litigation a case is made out for costs to come out of the estate. Another principle is that, if the circumstances lead reasonably to an investigation of the matter, then the costs may be led to be borne by those who have incurred them. If it were not for the application of those principles which, if not exhaustive, are the two great principles upon which the Court acts, costs would now, according to the rule, follow the event as a matter of course. Those principles allow good cause to be shown why costs should not follow the event. Therefore, in each case where an application is made, the Court has to consider whether the acts warrant either of those principles being brought into operation".
Then, if my Lord turns over to p.1308, towards the end of the judgment, I have marked on the left hand side, my Lord.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD:
"Mr. Chapman accepts, in my judgment rightly, that I can have regard to the sort of principles which the President referred to in Spiers v English as part of the circumstances of the case which I am required to have regard to under Part 44.3(4), and that does appear to me to enable my discretion to be exercised fairly widely".
At 44.3(4) my Lord, 44.3 deals with the court's discretion and circumstances to take into account ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Hold on, I have not got it yet. Page ----?
MR. LLOYD: Page 1145, my Lord.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: At 44.3-(1):
"The court has a discretion as to
(a) whether costs are payable by one party to another;
(b) the amount of those costs; and
(c) when they are to be paid".
And then 44.3(2) sets out the general rule that the unsuccessful party will be ordered to pay the costs of the successful party.
And then 44.3(4) provides that:
"In deciding what order (if any) to make about costs, the court must have regard to all the circumstances, including -----
(a) the conduct of the parties;
(b) whether a party has succeeded on part of his case, even if he has not been wholly successful; and
(c) any payment into a court or admissible to offer to settle made by a party which is drawn to the court's attention and which is not an offer to which costs consequences under part.36 apply".
So, my Lord, those are the relevant rules relating to costs, and Spiers v English still applies and can come in under 44.3(4). Now, my Lord ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Well where? Under "the conduct of the parties"?
MR. LLOYD: Under "the conduct of the parties".
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I mean, just generally, on all the circumstances. It does not come within (b) or (c), does it? It is either ----
MR. LLOYD: No, my Lord., but ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE:
"All the circumstances including (a) the conduct of the parties".
MR. LLOYD: It says, well, I think it really, rather than – those are, of course, just the items which are included.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: I think it really comes up under the general statement.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: All the circumstances.
MR. LLOYD:
"In deciding what order if any to make about costs, the court must have regard to all the circumstances".
"To all the circumstances". And then, "including".
SIR DONALD RATTEE: What is it you are asking me to do?
MR. LLOYD: Well, my Lord, we say that this was a case which warranted being brought before the court and having the matter tested. We say that the circumstances ----
Well, first of all, there are two situations, my Lord. One where either the person who made the will, or persons who are interested in residue had been the cause of the litigation, so the testatrix ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: That is not this case, is it?
MR. LLOYD: My Lord, only in that the testatrix chose this very unusual way of making a will. Had she gone to a solicitor and chosen the more conventional course ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: -- there would have been more evidence, satisfactory evidence, on the two issues which my Lord has had to decide. So, we do say this is a situation where the testatrix by her conduct has caused the litigation.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: If that is the case, then you say the costs come out of the estate.
MR. LLOYD: Then we say the costs ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: But if you fall within the second principle, the Barnes judgment, then you simply bear your own costs.
MR. LLOYD: It is no order as to costs, my Lord.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes. Well, why ----
MR. LLOYD: So, those are the two situations that my Lord, where in probate proceedings costs not unusually differ from the usual rule of following an event. We say we fall within the first. If we do not fall within the first, we certainly fall within the second.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: But I do not know, I mean, the statement simply says in relation to the second:
"… if the circumstances lead reasonably to an investigation of the matter, then the costs may be"----
Presumably "led" means left, does it? Must be a mis-quotation somewhere.
MR. LLOYD: Yes.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Must be "left to be borne".
MR. LLOYD: Unquestionably, my Lord.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: It does not help as to the circumstances in which the court may not, does it?
MR. LLOYD: No. Unquestionably, my Lord has a discretion.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: There is no question about that.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: My Lord, the only other point which I, I mean, it is proper that I should refer to, because under 44.3 it refers to "admissible offers to settle", in this case it is true there was an offer made by Mr. and Mrs. Man that the Attorney and the family should take £1 million to cover their claims and any costs, and that offer was made once in the early stages, and once in the later stages. There were equally -- there was a mediation and there was an offer – not a part 36 offer because it does not really work in these cases, but there was an offer without prejudice save as to costs whereby the family offered a proposal whereby 25 per cent would go to Mr. and Mrs. Man, 25 per cent to the family and 50 per cent to the charities, with certain other detailed matters. Shortly before the hearing my learned friend for the Attorney made a more generous offer of 40 per cent to Mr. and Mrs. Man, 60 per cent to be divided between the family and the Attorney as they might agree or it be determined. So, there are those offers, it is right my Lord should know about those offers.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. LLOYD: So, my Lord, those are my submissions.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Thank you. Yes. Does anybody else want to say anything about – just before I hear you again, Miss Reed?
MR. WILSON (Who was not near a microphone): My Lord, yes.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Are you asking for your costs from somebody?
MR. WILSON: I am. I am asking for my costs out of the estate to be raised and paid in the administration of the estate because they are the costs of the executor, who will now propound the will. And the ordinary rule is that we get our costs on an indemnity basis.
In principle, though, my Lord, on the claimants' costs, I suppose as executor I am duty bound to preserve the estate and endorse the submissions of my learned friend Miss Reed that they should not come out of the estate, they should be borne by the claimants.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Well, why? You are not in any different interest than Mr. and Mrs. Man, are you, on that?
MR. WILSON: We are going to be, well, we are going to be executor …
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I mean, they are the only people who are going – yes.
MR. WILSON: And so, as my Lord … as I said, the appropriate order for our costs is, as I say, … indemnity basis … position of my learned friend ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: The only thing that troubles me a bit, you know, why was it necessary for your client to be represented here all through the trial?
MR. WILSON: Well, my Lord, we say firstly we are the named executor and ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I know you are, but I mean, why ----
MR. WILSON: We had an interest in the proceeding and we were named as a defendant. At no time did any other party suggest through their solicitors that we should not be present at the trial. We have incurred significant amounts of costs in doing things necessary for the litigation generally, and in my submission it is ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: What?
MR. WILSON: Well, my Lord, certainly getting together all the Lark Nugus evidence.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. WILSON: There was ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: No, no. I am more concerned about why you needed to be represented through seven days of trial.
MR. WILSON: My Lord, we say that of course the substance of the trial may
have – particularly on your Lordship's findings in relation to various allegations that seemed to be made that your Lordship did not make any findings on in the end, it may have been that there was a difficulty in terms of us taking a grant, we have been criticised substantially in relation to the preparation of the will. It may have been that there would be the conflict that arose and it was appropriate we were here to deal with that potential situation. In my submission, we are the executor and it is wholly appropriate for us to be at the trial in those circumstances.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes. I see. Thank you. (To Mr. Henderson) Yes?
MR. HENDERSON: My Lord, I represent the Attorney General in this matter.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Well, I assumed that, yes. And I would ask, why are you here? You have carved it up, I gather, anyway.
MR HENDERSON: Well, we very recently carved up what would happen in the event that ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: -- your Lordship had been against the validity of the 1994 wills. That is a very recent development. But I am here because the Attorney General was a party to the proceedings. The Attorney General has put in pleadings.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: Effectively supporting ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: At least you did not come and sit throughout the trial, no.
MR. HENDERSON: Well, no.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes. What do you want me to do, then?
MR. HENDERSON: Well, my Lord, the Attorney has incurred costs in this matter, and like my learned friend, Mr. Lloyd, I would submit that this is a case which comes within the exceptions referred to in the authority he referred to, which exception precisely it comes under may be a more difficult question, whether it comes within the exception which requires or provides that the costs should ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I have to say at the moment I do not find that a difficult question at all. I cannot for the life of me see how the first exception applies. I mean, the only suggestion is that this poor lady brought all this on her estate by going to Barclays will writing service rather than going to a solicitor. Is that really a good reason?
MR. HENDERSON: Well ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: You say it is? Or you accept that that is not.
MR. HENDERSON: I say that is one factor which brings it within the first head. The other factor is her unfortunate suffering from, certainly, mild Alzheimer's back in 1993 round through 1994 and on into 1995 and 1996. Now, that was not her fault.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: No.
MR. HENDERSON: Of course. But the reference to fault there Spiers v English in English and I submit does not mean fault in terms of being blameworthy, it just means caused by, and that is a view which Mr. Justice Henderson reached, in fact, in a judgment handed down this morning, where he grappled with the distinction between the two heads in Spiers v English. And I would like to hand up, if I may, a copy of that judgment on costs. If your Lordship is concerned ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Here we go again, yet other unreported decisions of first instance judges. Yes?
MR. HENDERSON: My Lord, it does contain ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Very well, let us have a look at it. (Handed to Judge) Thank you. Yes?
MR. HENDERSON: Which paragraph?
MR. HENDERSON: Start para.5.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Paragraph 5, yes.
MR. HENDERSON: That is the quotation from Spiers v English which your Lordship has already seen.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I have just seen. Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: Then para.7:
"What is meant, for the purposes of the first exception, by saying that the testator has been 'really the cause of the litigation'? And what is meant for the purposes of the second exception, by saying that 'the circumstances lead reasonably to an investigation of the matter'? There are at least four earlier cases … ".
I will not take your Lordship through those cases.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Good.
MR. HENDERSON: Paragraph 9.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: The judge comments on the first of the cases:
"Although Sir James Wilde framed his first rule in terms of blame and fault, it is in my view reasonably clear that he did not necessarily mean moral fault or culpability, but rather that the touchstone should be whether it was the testator's own conduct which had led to his will 'being surrounded with confusion or uncertainty in law or fact'. If that causal test is satisfied, it should not in my judgment matter for the purposes of the first rule whether the problem is one relating to the state in which the deceased has left his testamentary papers (for example where a will cannot be found, or where there is a question whether a will has been revoked), or whether the problem relates to the capacity of the deceased to make a will".
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: And then, para.10.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Sorry, just a moment. Where does this reference to Sir James Wild come from? That is what I am not understanding at the moment? This is in another case, I see.
MR. HENDERSON: In fact it is …
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I see. Well, where is the first rule he ----?
MR. HENDERSON: The first rule is the first rule in Spiers v English.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: No, Sir James Wilde apparently framed his first rule. Before I can make sense of para.9 I need to know what the first rule is that the judge is talking about. (After a pause) I see, it is immediately above 9, the last paragraph of the citation:
"From these considerations, the court deduces the two following rules for its future guidance: first, if the cause of litigation takes its origin in the fault of the testator or those interested in the residue, the costs may properly be paid out of the estate; secondly, if there be sufficient and reasonable ground, looking to the knowledge and means of knowledge of the opposing party, to question … " -----
Yes, I see, right. So then (After a pause) Yes. That is 9, I now understand 9. Where do you want me to go next?
MR. HENDERSON: To 10, my Lord. Briefly. The judge said that:
"… the difficulty of extracting any general rule from the earlier cases law, and said that his two rules were designed to strike a balance between two principles of high public importance, the first being that 'parties should not be tempted into [imprudent] litigation by the knowledge that their costs will be defrayed by others', and the other being that 'doubtful wills should not pass easily into proof by reason of the cost of opposing them".
SIR DONALD RATTEE: But, I mean, what possible public interest is there in this, in the circumstances of this case? What public interest is there in the litigation? Leave charity on one side for the moment, I mean, because charity did not enter into it in the context between the claimants on ----
MR. HENDERSON: It is because ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Why is that a matter of public interest?
MR. HENDERSON: It is because of the particularly, or strangely, inquisitorial nature of probate actions I think, as compared with almost any other form of action, that the court itself has an interest in ensuring that the correct will is admitted to proof. That is why it was not until the administration ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Bit unreal in this day and age, is it not? I mean, the only people interested are the next of kin on the one hand, and the residuary legatees on the other, are they not?
MR. HENDERSON: It is, my Lord, and that is recognised by the legislation, in fact, since, I mean 1985, there has been legislation to the effect that if all the parties potentially interested on either side of the dispute agree, then effectively you can get an order by consent in the probate action, which previously you could not.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: But, nevertheless, that explains the rule, and it explains why the court may be more tender to the losing party in a probate action, than it would be in a normal case.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes. I see.
MR. HENDERSON: And, flipping fairly swiftly on in this paragraph 15, the judge refers to Twist v Tye as being an example on the other side of the line where, really, it was effectively hostile litigation all the way through and he ordered costs to follow the event. He said that three gentlemen who were the executors and residuary beneficiaries under the will in question:
"… had not acted improperly, but they had taken a view about the testatrix which turned out to be mistaken … Nor was it a case where there should be no order as to costs, because the truth of the matter was that the executors had taken a view and acted upon it, in circumstances where they stood to benefit if the will was upheld. There was accordingly nothing to warrant a departure from the general rule that costs should follow the event".
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: So, the long and short of it is that it is entirely fact-dependent as to whether your Lordship thinks it was reasonable to effectively put Mr. and Mrs. Man to proof of the validity of these wills in the circumstances as they existed.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes, I see.
MR. HENDERSON: And what Mr. Justice Kenton did at the end in this case, the costlier case, was to divide the period of time during which the litigation was carried on into three periods: an early period when it was reasonable and proper for the losing party to investigate, because it was to some extent, he thought, the fault of the testator that the problem arose -- for that period he gave the losing party their costs out of the estate; a middle period when he thought neither party should have their costs; and an end period which covered the trial, during which, in effect of which, he ordered the losing party to pay the claimant's costs.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: And we end up the same as no order for costs, do we?
MR. HENDERSON: Well, not in that case, because, typically the costs of the trial will be much ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: The trial will be much greater. Yes.
MR. HENDERSON: But that is the position. I say, certainly as far as the Attorney General is concerned, he was, or she was brought into this litigation by the claimants. She was a proper party. It was appropriate for her to have spent at least some money in investigating the position and forming a view. And therefore she should not be out of pocket as a consequence of that, and therefore her costs should come out of the estate. As a fall-back ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I am very puzzled as to really what interest charity had. I mean it would have been extremely difficult if not impossible ever to have decided that the – what the 1988 will did, would it not? The evidence certainly would not have enabled me to make a finding as to what the terms of the 1988 will were.
MR. HENDERSON: My submission would have been that you could have found sufficient to make a case for charity.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes, well we will not go into that.
MR. HENDERSON: But, be that as it may, we were joined.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I know, yes. I follow that, yes. Quite right.
MR. HENDERSON: And here we are.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: All right. Well, what order do you want me to make, precisely?
MR. HENDERSON: My first submission is to ask you to order the Attorney General's costs or a proportion of them to be paid out of the estate. And, as a fall-back, simply to make no order as to the Attorney General's costs and to make no hostile order against the Attorney General.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: And you are not asking for your costs against the claimants.
MR. HENDERSON: No ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Why not?
MR. HENDERSON: -- although if I ask you for my costs out of the estate, effectively, that would be the result.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: No.
MR. HENDERSON: Sorry, against the claimants.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: The claimants.
MR. HENDERSON: No. I am not asking for my costs against the claimants.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Why not? They brought you here for wrong reasons in the event. Why should – who is going to pay the costs then, the public purse?
MR. HENDERSON: My Lord, the Attorney General's approach on the pleadings has been to support the claimants on the issue of capacity.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I see. All right. I did not know that because you have never told me, you see.
MR. HENDERSON: Probably … the privilege of making it my final pleading! That is my pleading ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes, very well. I see. Righto, well, thank you very much. (To Miss Reed) Now, Miss Reed?
MISS REED: My Lord, it is rather difficult to know who to start with first, actually, but on the basic principles, my learned friend has taken your Lordship to the costs decision, which is a useful review of the authorities, I accept that.
What it does make clear in para.6 which I do not think your Lordship was ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Paragraph 6, yes.
MISS REED: Is that the statement of principle that is referred to in Spiers v English in the previous para.5 that your Lordship was taken to, makes it clear:
"… that a positive case has to be made out before departing from the general rule that costs should follow the event, and also that 'the two great principles upon which the court acts' are neither exhaustive nor rigidly prescriptive. They are guidelines, not straightjackets, and their applications will depend on the facts of the particular case".
And, my Lord, it is for the claimant and the Attorney General, if they are arguing for their costs to come out of the estate, to make a positive case to that effect.
And, my Lord, if I could take your Lordship as well to para.21 of Mr. Justice Henderson's decision.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MISS REED: He refers in para.21 to being referred to an unreported decision, the first instance decision in Hoff v Atherton where Mr. Nicholas Warren as he then was had said that – he expressed the view that a challenge to testamentary capacity falls within the second exception in Spiers v English, not the first, so requires investigation, but could not fall within the first point as to whether or not it was the fault or the blame of the testator.
Mr. Justice Henderson does not agree with that, and he refers to Boughton v Knight, but then he says, just over halfway down the paragraph:
"However, it is I think fair to say that the trend of the more recent authorities has been to encourage a very careful scrutiny of any case in which the first exception is said to apply, and to narrow rather than extend the circumstances in which it will be held to be engaged. There are at least two factors which have in my judgment contributed to this change of emphasis. First, less importance is attached today than it was in Victorian times to the independent duty of the court to investigate the circumstances in which a will was executed and to satisfy itself as to its validity. Secondly, the courts are increasingly alert to the dangers of encouraging litigation, and discouraging settlement of doubtful claims at an early stage, if costs are allowed out of the estate to the unsuccessful party".
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MISS REED: And I would invite your Lordship to take those comments into account.
On the first point as to whether or not this was a dispute that was caused by the testatrix, it really does boil down to the use of the will writing service, and in my submission your Lordship has found that she had ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: You need not trouble with that point. I do not think there is anything in it.
MISS REED: My Lord, I am grateful. As far as the question of investigation is concerned.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MISS REED: My Lord, the fact of the matter is that this was always hostile litigation.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Yes.
MISS REED: The facts and the documents were disclosed, the witness statements have been before the other parties, and in my submission this is not one of those cases where the exception to the general rule applies, and that, and therefore my submission would be that it is clearly a case where the claimant ought to pay the first and second defendants' costs of the claimants.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I agree.
MISS REED: My Lord, as far as the Attorney General is concerned, we do oppose her costs coming out of the estate because ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Oh yes.
MISS REED: -- my Lord, we did not join her in, and ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: No, well, you need not trouble.
MISS REED: I am grateful.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: I mean, I am not satisfied that it is appropriate in this case to depart from the usual rule that costs should follow the event. I shall order that the claimants pay your costs.
MISS REED: I am grateful.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: The Attorney General to bear their own costs, or rather the public purse will have to bear them, apparently.
And, now, what about the bank? Do you want to say anything about their costs, I mean, coming out of the estate?
MISS REED: My Lord, we understand your Lordship's comments on that, but I am instructed that we do not oppose those costs coming out of the estate, so ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: You do not. Very well. So third defendant's costs can come out of the estate. The claimant to pay the first and second defendants' costs, and no order for the Attorney General's costs.
Anything else?
MR. LLOYD: My Lord, I am conscious that my Lord does not now sit regularly and therefore -- obviously the family will need to get a transcript of my Lord's judgment and consider it at leisure. But it may well be that it may be that ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: You may want permission to appeal.
MR. LLOYD: Indeed, my Lord.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: You will not get it from me, Mr. Lloyd, I am afraid, I do not think there is any real prospect of success for an appeal in this case.
MR. LLOYD: My Lord, I made the application, my Lord ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: Quite right.
MR. LLOYD: My Lord has heard and determined it, so ----
SIR DONALD RATTEE: You are quite right.
MR. LLOYD: -- the way is now clear.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: You are absolutely right. It can go to the Court of Appeal.
MR. LLOYD: I am sorry.
SIR DONALD RATTEE: No, absolutely right. Anything else? No.
Thank you all very much for your help.