2081/ 2005 |
CHANCERY DIVISION
COMPANIES COURT
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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2082/2005 Re CHICAGO GROUP LIMITED |
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BETWEEN CHICAGO HOLDINGS LTD - and - |
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COOPER & ANR |
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And |
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2081/2005 Re CHICAGO GROUP LIMITED |
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BETWEEN COOPER & ANR - and- |
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CAPONE |
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MR. JAMES BARKER for the RESPONDENT
Hearing dates: 5th December 2005
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Crown Copyright ©
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS :
"He then said to me that there was a way around it. I asked him how we could get over it. He said it could be done if I sat in as director and chairman of the Company. I told him that I wasn't interested in the Company, and that I had nothing to do with it. He said there would be no implications or repercussions for me by doing so. I was aware that the Company was not trading, and I was primarily concerned about protecting my own interests as a shareholder and director of ACC and CCC. Mr. Cottam presented me with a form 288A for my appointment as director of the company, which I signed. I also recollect signing a document appointing a secretary of the Company, although I cannot recall who was appointed. I understand these documents have not been filed at Companies House."
"recognising the effect of a line of cases which have established that advice sought or given for the purpose of effecting iniquity is not privileged. The present appeal is concerned essentially with the question whether the effecting of transactions at an under value for the purpose of prejudicing the interests of a creditor, can be regarded as iniquity in this context. Iniquity is, I believe, without having done any research on the point, Bingham LJ's word. The case law refers to 'crime' or 'fraud,' (R v. Cox & Railton), 'criminal' or 'unlawful' (Bullivant v Attorney General for Victoria) and "all forms of fraud and dishonesty, such as fraudulent breach of trust, fraudulent conspiracy, trickery and sham contrivances." The case law indicates that 'fraud' is, in this context, used in a relatively wide sense."
Then he refers to the unreported decision of Gamlen Chemical Co v. Rochem which was a case of fraudulent diversion of goodwill.
MR. BARKER: My Lord, I'm grateful. My Lord, I seek my client's costs of the application -- I was going to say application. There were initially three applications. When I saw my friend's skeleton late on Friday, one of them had dropped off. That was in relation to some expert handwriting evidence. Your Lordship indicated that you were against my friend on the question of expert evidence as to solvency and I didn't need to address your Lordship on that. But, my Lord, I seek my costs of all three applications. They were made, two of them, I think in both sets of proceedings, one in only the claim against Mr. Capone. Could I hand up my client's statement of costs, together with my friend's? Sorry, I think I may have just handed up too much. My friend's solicitor has produced two different schedules. I think -----
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: One was privileged then?
MR. BARKER: One of them's probably privileged.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: Yes.
MR. BARKER: I think it's the lower amount, £4,000-odd, was eventually sought overall by my friend, I think.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: Just under £4,000. £3,866.5.
MR. BARKER: I think that's us.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: Oh, that's yours, is it? No, it isn't. Oh, it depends. I see what you mean by applicant, yes. Sorry, yes.
MR. BARKER: Yes. It's confusing.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: Yes.
MR. BARKER: I think ours is the £3,000-something and my friend's should be at four-six, I think. There's VAT on his. But, my Lord, I seek costs in accordance with our schedule of £3,800-odd.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: On the basis it's broadly similar, in terms of quantum -----
MR. BARKER: My Lord, yes.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: ----- it's pretty well identical. Well, in fact it is identical.
MR. BARKER: I think if one takes the VAT off, they're almost the same.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: It's almost evidence of collusion!
MR. JEFFERIS: My Lord, two things if I may. Firstly on the sum, we actually had to make the running on this. We had to do the preparation. There have only been two short affidavits in answer, which amount to a few pages. I would invite you to apply the usual sort of rule of thumb and take of thirty per cent and so therefore knock it down to three. It has been rather greater than it might, given the evidence that's actually been put in. My learned friend says he only learned on Friday evening. As I understand it, my instructing solicitors notified their counterparts earlier than that, on the Friday morning, so that point is not the best point that he makes. Secondly, my Lord, I would wish to ask for leave to appeal, as there is a point of principle here. In essence, my learned friend's point about boot-straps, he's saying, 'I can't use this document as my foundation for saying there's strong evidence of fraud.' If one takes that to its limits, what if there was a document there saying, 'We know full well Njie is not involved, that he's not a director, not a shareholder, shouldn't be doing this, but we're going to have a go anyway,' that document, if that were what it said, we could plainly rely upon those words.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: Yes. Actually, I did not in fact deal with that. I had better just simply say why I do not regard that document in itself as helpful. I will say it in one sentence. I did not in fact deal with that point, I just dealt with it on a broader basis.
MR. JEFFERIS: That could be my foundation.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: Yes.
MR. JEFFERIS: Well, my Lord, I hear what your Lordship says, but -----
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: I was not trying to cut your appeal off at the pass, by the way.
MR. JEFFERIS: My Lord, Heaven forbid. To be serious for a moment, my submission is that the position here is that one must be allowed to rely on the document itself, once one has seen it, once one knows the critical words in it. My submission is that we have come a long way here, we have got a situation where there were allegations they knew there was a problem, and they had been specifically told so, they had done a search, and here we have a document which says "bluff it out." It must be fair -- you've only been shown one tip of an iceberg. There was some sort of bluff. We don't know what that bluff was, and we don't know what the other documents that go with it are going to say. Now, if you'd been shown the whole file and you could have been taken and shown, "This it the bluff," but you haven't been. You've been shown one piece of paper, and that's the one that refers to a bluff.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: Well, I will refuse permission. On the figures, Mr. Barker, I think £3,000 does seem to me to be appropriate.
MR. JEFFERIS: My Lord, on the question of the second part of the application relating to the evidence, that is left that we should apply for case management directions in relation to specific items.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: When you see what's really in issue. At the moment, again I haven't been taken to the essence of this, but if there are some issues which are isolated in relation to accountancy, then by all means and they can't be resolved and they do need expert evidence, which I doubt, then I think you should, although this is a relatively small case, you should apply for a case management conference and deal with it fully there.
MR. JEFFERIS: Deal with it that way.
MR. JUSTICE LAWRENCE COLLINS: But not in the applications court.
MR. JEFFERIS: I am obliged.
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