KING'S BENCH DIVISION
ADMINISTRATIVE COURT
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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SHEIKH ASIF SALAM |
Appellant |
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SOLICITORS REGULATION AUTHORITY LTD |
Respondent |
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Benjamin Tankel (instructed by Capsticks Solicitors LLP) for the Respondent
Hearing dates: Tuesday 27 February 2024
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Crown Copyright ©
Mr Justice Calver :
Introduction and Background
a. An audio recording of an initial telephone call on 1 December 2016 in which the Appellant allegedly invited the journalist to his office to discuss an option which he said was 'not very straight'.
b. An audio recording of a meeting on or around 2 December 2016 at which the Appellant allegedly gave the dishonest advice to the journalist.
c. An audio recording and a video recording of a second meeting on or around 6-7 December 2016 at which the Appellant allegedly repeated the dishonest advice and introduced the journalist to the accountant.
"This is the latest in a series of attempts by the claimant by applications to this court to obstruct the disciplinary process and prevent the SRA from holding him accountable before the SDT for alleged wrongdoing. If he continues to make unfounded and abusive applications to this court of a similar nature, it is likely that a civil restraint order of some kind will be made against him."[1]
The Allegations against the Appellant
1. When in practice as a solicitor and sole practitioner at Salam & Co Solicitors Limited ("the Firm"):
1.1 Whilst advising Client A on a possible visa application for her husband, he:
1.1.1 Introduced her to an accountant for the purposes of her obtaining false documentation to support the application, and by reason of such failure breached one or more of Principles 1, 2 and 6 of the SRA Principles 2011;
and
1.1.2 Failed to advise Client A that applying for a spousal visa on the basis of false documentation was unlawful, and by reason of such failure breached one or more of Principles 1, 2 and 6 of the SRA Principles 2011.
2. He acted dishonestly in respect of allegation 1.
Hearing before the SDT
"The First Meeting
15. Client A met with Mr Salam at the Firm's premises on or around 2 December 2016. Client A again conducted a covert audio recording of the meeting which was subsequently transcribed. Conversations which took place in Urdu were translated for the purpose of that transcript.
16. Client A informed Mr Salam that she wanted to make an application for her husband to come to the UK from Pakistan. She reiterated that which had been discussed during the initial telephone call, namely that she earned £12,000.00 per annum and held savings of £3,000.00.
17. Mr Salam enquired whether she could obtain a second job to which Client A advised she could not. The following exchange ensued:
"…
Mr Salam: You should, you should, I think they're not paying you well. So, the other option which I was trying to tell you because a lot of people are in difficulty. So, you can go to some accountant and ask them to get you a second job, on paper at least, so they can do that. We don't get involved but it's between you and them.
Client A: Okay. Do you know anybody?
Mr Salam: All accountants are naughty.
Client A: Right, okay. So, what do I say to them?
Mr Salam: You say, 'This is what I need', openly.
Client A: What, what do I need? I just need another job.
Mr Salam: You, you need to have payslips and bank statements so that they will rotate the money to your bank also.
Client A: So, I don't have to do the job? When you say they rotate my money what do you mean?
Mr Salam: They will pay you for the second job –
Client A: They will pay me?
Mr Salam: ... because it's their money, then you only have to show that you are working and you are getting paid.
Client A: Sorry, I don't mean to be thick, I don't understand what do you mean. So, I give them money?
Mr Salam: No. Yeah, something like that. Look, if they employ you for a job caring, say, £600 a month this is what you need in addition to £12,000 a year so £600 per month. So, what they will do is you pay them £600 and they will pay £600 into your bank account net of the tax, they will take the tax and things off, and issue you a payslip for £600. This is what is main priority, so it's your money, you give it them, they give it to your bank account so that your bank shows you getting second job payment … and they will give you a payslip.
Client: A Right, okay. But I don't know anybody.
Mr Salam: We will monitor you. Don't worry. We will help you with all the process.
Client A: Right. But, so the only thing I need to give you then is what, what do I need to give you? Just bring my wage slips in and -
Mr Salam: A lot of other things also but since we are to wait for six months in doing all this here we will tell you what else you need to do…
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Mr Salam: We charge £900 - but we won't charge you any extra for six months that we will be working with you. Because normally what happen, people come, they have everything so in a month's time we finish it off.
Client A: Will I have to pay the accountant extra?
Mr Salam: I can't get involved to who is paying us or anything like that. You will never tell me you have given him £600 or. . . I will only monitor your paperwork and see everything is going fine.
Client A: Okay.
Mr Salam: So, that, you can negotiate with him, whatever. If you don't like the man if I give you a reference then go to anyone else. All, they're all into these things…
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Mr Salam: … take six months. Either you find a job which is the best thing to do, a genuine, or go and get it done from the accountant. The Surinder Singh, I don't recommend …
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Mr Salam: We do help people exaggerate their circumstance, make them look more compelling. There are limits, but we don't simply say something which is totally … dodgy…"
The Second Meeting
18. On or around 6–7 December 2017, Client A met with Mr Salam again at the Firm's premises. Client A conducted a covert video and audio recording of the meeting which was subsequently transcribed. Parts of the conversations which took place in Urdu were translated for the purpose of that transcript.
19. Client A reminded Mr Salam of her financial position. Mr Salam reiterated that she did not meet the minimum financial threshold required for spousal visa applications. The following exchange ensued in relation to the fee of £900 suggested by Mr Salam for assisting in Client A's potential spousal visa application:
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Client A: So, for the £900, what do we get for £900? How can you help us?
Mr Salam: … we will provide you advice …we will provide you guidance, how to go about it, that's the most important thing that we do. Then we do the application form online form … Then we pay all your fees through your card or whatever from here. You book an appointment for him to go to the embassy from here. We do the application pack, everything, from here … It's a lot of work if you do it properly…
Client A: … you said there's a solution.
Mr Salam: … there's is a dodgy way of doing it either, if you want to do the proper way it is to go and find a second job…
… the dodgy thing is you ask an accountant to create you as an employee with someone for six months because you need at least for six months…
… those payslips, your bank statement should reflect payments coming in from the employer and payslips will permit you from the accountant.
Client A: … this is somebody that you know or do I have to find a person then?
Mr Salam: I will send you to someone. I don't get involved into it more than that - … - because it's something ethically I should not get involved. I'm just trying to help you, nothing more than that. We will just monitor everything. Every month you just send us a copy of your wage slips and bank statements.
Client A: This person will or do I have to go and collect them?
Mr Salam: You can arrange with him howsoever, but we need to have them every month. so that if there is something wrong I will give you a call …
Client A: … Will you have a word with the accountant then?
Mr Salam: Yes, if there's a problem …
Client A: Right, okay, yeah, yeah.
Mr Salam: … I'll show you something. This is what, the real, the real thing, not something like manufactured that we are discussing. Even in the real world, what happens is: This is someone who has been refused we just prepare letter asking them to review it and the issues were that you are getting …
Client A: Okay. Is this somebody whose application you did from the beginning?
Mr Salam: No.
Client A: No. No, okay.
Mr Salam: The problem is this is real one, nothing dodgy…
Client A: … But can I just check with you in terms of the accountant then, I'm going to have to give him money then, aren't I, to
Mr Salam: I don't get involved in that.
Client A: But what, how will that accountant help me then? …
Mr Salam: If you're, if, say, your short by, say, £600 a month, you will give him £600 and he will settle it, go to the employer bank account and from there he will transfer £600 to your bank account and that's what I mean you will pay him £600 in cash…
Client A: … Okay. Would you speak to the accountant first though or do I go straight to that person?
Mr Salam: No, you can go there straight, tell them I have referred you so then they know.
Client A: Can I just, I mean, have you done this before? Has it worked?
Do -
Mr Salam: It works every time… This way, this is a shortcut solution.
Client A: So, I'm not doing the job?
Mr Salam: Of course not.
Client A: You know, like, you were saying you're going to monitor them, so you will check the wage slips to make sure they're doing everything -
Mr Salam: You have to, you have to give that, give us the wage slips and bank statements every month -
Client A: Every month.
Mr Salam: Immediately, the moment you get them…
Client A: Do you know how much the accountant might charge me to do this or is it all included? …
Mr Salam: … this is between you and them. You negotiate with him, don't tell me how much he's charging you, I've never asked and, and I've told them, 'You don't tell me otherwise I'm a party to it. I don't want to.
Client A: So, you can't tell me who they are now or. . .?
Mr Salam: No, I can give you their number and - if there is an issue you let me know. It's not that I won't do anything, the only thing is I can't get involved in dodgy stuff in-depth.
Client A: Do –
Mr Salam: … if there is an issue you let me know. It's not that I won't do anything, the only thing is I can't get involved in dodgy stuff in-depth…
Client A: Many thanks. what is the accountant's number? … Is he our own kind [i.e. Pakistani]?
Mr Salam: Yes, Daysi 1 [i.e., Pakistani]. Only Daysi 1 people engage in number 2 [i.e. counterfeit/dodgy] work … Daysi people are the best in doing number 2 work. Even in immigration, you can see that all the good consultants are Pakistani.
Client A: Right
Mr Salam: The barristers' work is done by the English but we tell them only that much as required…"
20. Mr Salam proceeded to provide Client A with the accountants' telephone number and the following exchange ensued:
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Client A: Many thanks. But please talk to him now; you're going to talk to him on my behalf as well, aren't you?
Mr Salam: Wait a second. Is your name Samina?
Client A: Yes.
[Mr Salam called the accountant]
Mr Salam: He's not answering.
Client A: Can I leave it with you? Because I think you've got . . .
Mr Salam: I am going to give you this. Note this too. I don't know why the zero is not there. Add a zero to it. This too is Wajid's number.
Client A: Aren't these the people who own the cash and carry?
Mr Salam: Yes. They have a Cash and Carry too.
[Wajid answered the telephone]
Mr Salam: …How are you? Is everything fine? We haven't chatted for many days. It's kind of you. I have a client here. She needs something for her spouse's visa. Her name is Samina. She's a good lady, it is right to help her, you know? … Okay? I have given to her your mobile number. It's Mrs Samina…"
21. At the conclusion of the Second meeting, Client A paid a fee of £50.00 to the Firm."
a. The 'Research' Defence. The Appellant maintained that what was heard on the recordings was part of "research" that he was carrying out into the immigration industry, for the purposes of one of his (supposed) books or televised lectures. On 5 January 2017 the Appellant sent an email to Mr Grant in which he suggested that "as part of my research I also shortly before your email of 15 Dec 2016[2] did act to use an inquisitive character to find out what and how some Accountants may be doing and for how much to wrongly help British sponsors beef up their incomes to meet immigration threshold to sponsor non-British family members. Conversation with such a person acting and faking is different".
b. The Play-acting Defence. The Appellant maintained that he knew that Client A was not a genuine client and believed that she was part of a plan to sabotage his business. His advice was said to be an attempt on his part to expose this. During the investigation on 30 August 2018, the Appellant sent an email to Mrs Dhaliwal of the SRA as follows: "[d]ue to my belief that she did not present herself as a genuine client, I thought a rival had put her up to it and I went along with her, effectively calling her bluff and acting".
c. The Conspiracy Defence. The Appellant stated he believed Client A was playing her part in a conspiracy between the BBC and the Government to influence the decision of the Supreme Court, which at that time was considering its judgment in the case of MM(Lebanon) v SSHD [2017] UKSC 10. In his 15 September 2020 Answer to [the] Allegations, he stated: "It is now no secret that the Government has a policy in place to bully what they call 'activist lawyers' helping migrants. They had a video recently taken off apologetically while the Law Society and the Bar condemning this. However, the policy has not been discontinued as later clearly spelt out by the Home Secretary."
d. The Authenticity Defence. The Appellant challenged the recordings on both accuracy and admissibility grounds and suggested they had been dubbed to incriminate him. In his 15 September 2020 Answer to [the] Allegations he said that he "challenge[d] the authenticity of all the audios videos and the transcripts included in evidence." He said that he did try to get a forensic test of the recordings but he was told by the experts that "the changes and the tampering cannot be discovered from the copies." He did not explain which parts of the transcript he alleged had been changed or tampered with or how that could have happened, nor did he explain how this allegation was consistent with his allegation that the transcripts show him play acting or conducting research (which necessarily assumes the authenticity of the same).
The SDT's findings
"37.45 The Tribunal carefully considered the evidence before it. In so doing, it determined that the audio and video recordings as well as the transcripts made in that regard were reliable and accurate. There was nothing in evidence to suggest otherwise beyond Mr Salam's bald submissions in that regard. The Tribunal rejected as completely without foundation Mr Salam's assertions that the recordings had been tampered with such that they did not present the full picture.
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37.49 The Tribunal considered the various defences advanced by Mr Salam in writing and by way of submissions. The Tribunal rejected them in their entirety as inconsistent, totally implausible and disingenuous. On the contrary, Mr Salam's moral compass appeared at times to the Tribunal to have been pointing in entirely the wrong direction.
37.50 Mr Salam's contention that he was play-acting was at odds with the ebb and flow of his interactions with Client A which appeared natural and authentic. The suggestion that he was conducting research was not remotely plausible, generally asserted and ridiculous.
37.51 Mr Salam's attacks on the accuracy of the recordings were also considered to be without foundation. They had been considered and arguments raised by Mr Salam attacking the recordings had all been determined against him following numerous failed applications that he had previously made (a) to the Tribunal for a stay of proceedings as an abuse of process on 30 October 2020, (b) for permission to the Administrative Court for judicial review of that Tribunal decision (and other decisions made at subsequent Case Management Hearings) and (c) for permission to appeal to the Court of Appeal (Civil Division) against the Administrative Court refusal of permission.
37.53 Mr Salam's allegations impugning the conduct of the Applicant were pugnacious but quite unsubstantiated.
37.54 For the avoidance of doubt, the Tribunal did not draw an adverse inference as a consequence of Mr Salam's failure to give evidence. The Tribunal did not consider it necessary to do so given the strength of the evidence against him.
37.55 The Tribunal therefore found the factual matrix of Allegation 1.1.1 PROVED on a balance of probabilities.
37.56 Mr Salam instigated and participated in a potential scheme which encouraged illegality designed to mislead the Home Office and the British Government which was plainly contrary to the rule of law, demonstrably lacked integrity and flagrantly undermined public trust in him and the profession. The Tribunal therefore found, by virtue of Mr Salam's conduct, breaches of each of Principles 1, 2 and 6 PROVED on a balance of probabilities.
37.57 With regards to the aggravating feature of dishonesty, the Tribunal determined that Mr Salam's state of mind at the material time was that (a) he knew Client A did not meet the financial threshold for a spousal visa application, (b) he advanced a proposition in order for her to fabricate a second job and falsely inflate her income, (c) he knew that any application he drafted on her behalf would be predicated on the fabricated payslips, (d) he repeatedly referred to the arrangement as "dodgy", The Tribunal had no hesitation in equating this vernacular term to dishonesty in the context in which it was used by Mr Salam (e) he was well aware of the dubious nature of the arrangement given his efforts to distance himself from interactions between Client A and the "accountant" and (f) he knew that the Home Office would rely upon the false payslips in its consideration of the application. Indeed Mr Salam's offer to monitor the payslips for errors could have bolstered that deception. The Tribunal determined that ordinary decent people would consider such -conduct to be dishonest and therefore found the aggravating feature of dishonesty PROVED on a balance of probabilities."
"Mr Salam instigated and participated in a potential scheme which encouraged illegality designed to mislead the Home Office and the British Government which was plainly contrary to the rule of law, demonstrably lacked integrity and flagrantly undermined public trust in him and the profession. The Tribunal therefore found, by virtue of Mr Salam's conduct, breaches of each of Principles 1, 2 and 6 PROVED on a balance of probabilities."
"Allegation 1.1.2 was inelegantly drafted and duplicitous in nature. The Tribunal considered that it added nothing to the gravamen of Allegation 1.1.1, was disproportionately and unnecessarily pursued."
Sanction
"42. The Tribunal referred to its Guidance Note on Sanctions (Tenth Edition: June 2022) when considering sanction cognisant of the fact that the purpose of sanction was to preserve the overarching public interest which comprised of (a) the need to protect the public from harm, (b) the need to declare and uphold proper standards within the solicitor's profession and (c) the need to maintain public confidence in the regulatory framework.
43. Given the serious finding of dishonesty, it was plain to Tribunal that other measures such as making no Order, imposing a reprimand, financial penalty, restrictions on Mr Salam's practice or a term of suspension from the Roll were neither appropriate nor proportionate.
44. The Tribunal found no exceptional circumstances either in the submissions that had been advanced by Mr Salam or evident on the face of the papers, and accordingly that the only sanction which sufficiently met the overarching public interest was an Order striking Mr Salam from the Roll of Solicitors."
Legal Principles
"92...CPR 52.10 and 52.11 apply to an appeal under s.49 of the 1974 Act. It is an appeal by way of review and not by way of rehearing: … special provision for a s.49 appeal is not made in CPR Practice Direction 52D. However where the appeal court is being asked to reverse findings of fact based on oral evidence, there is little, if any difference, between "review" and "rehearing": see Assicurazioni Generali SpA v Arab Insurance Group [2002] EWCA Civ 1642 §§13, 15 and 23."
93. Thirdly, the Court will only allow the appeal if the decision of the Tribunal was "wrong" or "unjust because of a serious procedural or other irregularity in the proceedings in the lower court" ( CPR 52.21(3)(a) and (b)).
94. Fourthly, as regards the approach of the Court when considering whether the Tribunal was "wrong", I refer in particular to Solicitors Regulation Authority v Day [2018] EWHC 2726 (Admin) at §§61-78, Solicitors Regulation Authority v Good [2019] EWHC 817 (Admin) at §§28-32, the Naqvi Judgment at §83, citing Solicitors Regulation Authority v Siaw [2019] EWHC 2737 (Admin) at §§32-35, and most recently, Martin v Solicitors Regulation Authority [2020] EWHC 3525 (Admin) at §§30-33. From these authorities, the following propositions can be stated:
(1) A decision is wrong where there is an error of law, error of fact or an error in the exercise of discretion.
(2) The Court should exercise particular caution and restraint before interfering with either the findings of fact or evaluative judgment of a first instance and specialist tribunal, such as the Tribunal, particularly where the findings have been reached after seeing and evaluating witnesses.
(3) It does not matter, with whatever degree of certainty, that the appellate court considers that it would have reached a different conclusion. What matters is whether the decision under appeal is one that no reasonable judge would have reached. That is a high threshold. That means it must either be possible to identify a critical finding of fact which has no basis in the evidence, or a demonstrable misunderstanding of relevant evidence, or a demonstrable failure to consider relevant evidence. If there is no such identifiable error and the question is one of judgment about the weight to be given to the relevant evidence, the Court must be satisfied that the judge's conclusion cannot reasonably be explained or justified.
(4) Therefore the Court will only interfere with the findings of fact and a finding of dishonesty if it is satisfied that that the Tribunal committed an error of principle or its evaluation was wrong in the sense of falling outside the bounds of what the Tribunal could properly and reasonably decide.
(5) The Tribunal is a specialist tribunal particularly equipped to appraise what is required of a solicitor in terms of professional judgment, and an appellate court will be cautious in interfering with such an appraisal.
Finally, as regards reasons, decisions of specialist tribunals are not expected to be the product of elaborate legal drafting. Their judgments should be read as a whole; and in assessing the reasons given, unless there is a compelling reason to the contrary, it is appropriate to take it that the Tribunal has fully taken into account all the evidence and submissions: Martin, supra , §33."
"The approach of an appeal court to that kind of appeal is a well-trodden path. It is unnecessary to refer in detail to the many cases that have discussed it; but the following principles are well-settled:
(i) An appeal court should not interfere with the trial judge's conclusions on primary facts unless it is satisfied that he was plainly wrong.
(ii) The adverb "plainly" does not refer to the degree of confidence felt by the appeal court that it would not have reached the same conclusion as the trial judge. It does not matter, with whatever degree of certainty, that the appeal court considers that it would have reached a different conclusion. What matters is whether the decision under appeal is one that no reasonable judge could have reached.
(iii) An appeal court is bound, unless there is compelling reason to the contrary, to assume that the trial judge has taken the whole of the evidence into his consideration. The mere fact that a judge does not mention a specific piece of evidence does not mean that he overlooked it.
(iv) The validity of the findings of fact made by a trial judge is not aptly tested by considering whether the judgment presents a balanced account of the evidence. The trial judge must of course consider all the material evidence (although it need not all be discussed in his judgment). The weight which he gives to it is however pre-eminently a matter for him.
(v) An appeal court can therefore set aside a judgment on the basis that the judge failed to give the evidence a balanced consideration only if the judge's conclusion was rationally insupportable.
(vi) Reasons for judgment will always be capable of having been better expressed. An appeal court should not subject a judgment to narrow textual analysis. Nor should it be picked over or construed as though it was a piece of legislation or a contract." (emphasis added)
"In considering what amounts to exceptional circumstances: relevant factors will include the nature, scope and extent of the dishonesty itself; whether it was momentary, or over a lengthy period of time; whether it was a benefit to the solicitor, and whether it had an adverse effect on others.
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The principal focus in determining whether exceptional circumstances exist is on the nature and extent of the dishonesty and the degree of culpability (applying Sharma and R (Solicitors Regulation Authority) v Imran [2015] EWHC 2572 (Admin)).
As a matter of principle nothing is excluded as being relevant to the evaluation, which could therefore include personal mitigation. In each case the Tribunal must when evaluating whether there are exceptional circumstances justifying a lesser sanction, focus on the critical questions of the nature and extent of the dishonesty and degree of culpability and engage in a balancing exercise as part of that evaluation between those critical questions on the one hand and matters such as personal mitigation, health issues and working conditions on the other."
"Because orders made by the tribunal are not primarily punitive, it follows that considerations which would ordinarily weigh in mitigation of punishment have less effect on the exercise of this jurisdiction than on the ordinary run of sentences imposed in criminal cases. It often happens that a solicitor appearing before the tribunal can adduce a wealth of glowing tributes from his professional brethren. He can often show that for him and his family the consequences of striking off or suspension would be little short of tragic. Often he will say, convincingly, that he has learned his lesson and will not offend again. On applying for restoration after striking off, all these points may be made, and the former solicitor may also be able to point to real efforts made to re-establish himself and redeem his reputation. All these matters are relevant and should be considered. But none of them touches the essential issue, which is the need to maintain among members of the public a well-founded confidence that any solicitor whom they instruct will be a person of unquestionable integrity, probity and trustworthiness." (emphasis added)
Grounds of Appeal
Ground 1: the decision is wrong and unjust due to serious procedural and other irregularities in the proceedings.
Ground 2: the decision is perverse and harsh.
Ground 11: It was wrong for the Judge to have held without any expert or other evidence that the recordings were reliable and accurate (the BBC could not even provide the dates of the recording) and the Judge wrongly recorded that it was open for A to instruct an expert for a forensic test, knowing well the facts including that applications by A for directions to instruct forensic expert were refused by the Tribunal and JR against such refusal was also refused because of the SRA asserting and even the HC accepting that the evidence was lost and there was nothing to put to forensic test and therefore no expert should be instructed, and thus the Chair misrepresented the facts in his Judgement.
"The Tribunal carefully considered the evidence before it. In so doing, it determined that the audio and video recordings as well as the transcripts made in that regard were reliable and accurate. There was nothing in evidence to suggest otherwise beyond Mr Salam's bald submissions in that regard. The Tribunal rejected as completely without foundation Mr Salam's assertions that the recordings had been tampered with such that they did not present the full picture. It had been open to Mr Salam to instruct and rely upon expert evidence in order to substantiate his submissions regarding the accuracy or otherwise of the recordings relied upon by the Applicant. Mr Salam elected not to do so. The Tribunal was required to adjudicate upon the allegations on the evidence before it in circumstances where there was no evidence which led it to question the veracity of the recordings. The Tribunal relied upon the same."
"20. Whilst various issues with the recordings had been raised several months ago, the Tribunal also noted that the Respondent's complaints about it having been tampered with lacked any specificity. Despite the detailed documents referred to above, he had not spelled out clearly what parts of the transcripts he considered were inauthentic. Again the Tribunal considered that the Respondent had had ample opportunity to provide details of any elements of the transcripts he accepted and those that he did not.
21. The Tribunal carefully considered the Respondent's submissions about being able to adequately defend himself and whether a fair hearing was possible on the basis of the material available. The Tribunal noted the Applicant's position that it was unable to provide material it did not possess and that the statement obtained from the senior journalist dealt with the authenticity and integrity of the recordings as far as was possible. The senior journalist would be available for cross examination.
22. The Tribunal did not consider that the instruction of an expert was warranted in all the circumstances or required for a fair hearing. In the absence of evidence indicating tampering, and given the reported absence of material which could be subjected to forensic testing, the Tribunal did not consider that such an instruction would assist with dealing with the case justly, at proportionate cost or expeditiously in accordance with the overriding objective. The fact that the Respondent had failed to take available steps to make progress towards a preliminary instruction or to provide details of which parts of the recordings he took issue with over an extended period also weighed against granting the application." (emphasis added)
The Claimant had sought permission for the instruction of an expert to report on the authenticity of the audio and video recordings. The SDT dismissed this application on the basis that the instruction of an expert was not warranted in all the circumstances or required for a fair hearing. There was no evidence indicating tampering of the recording, there was no material which could be subject to forensic testing (the original recordings were no longer available), the Claimant had not provided details of which parts of the recording he took issue with, and the Claimant had failed to take available steps to make progress towards a preliminary instruction. In my judgment, these were all appropriate factors for the SDT to take into account, and it is not arguable therefore that the SDT had erred in refusing the application. Further, as explained by the SDT, it was open to the Claimant to take the necessary steps towards a preliminary instruction and renew his application at the substantive hearing. (underlining added)
a. The Appellant gave no contradictory evidence at the hearing, because he chose not to give any evidence at all. Mr. Skeate argued that that made no difference because the SDT was "determined to believe" that the recordings/transcripts were authentic. But that ignores the fact that it was indeed bound so to conclude without there being any contradictory evidence before it, and unless the Appellant explained which part or parts thereof he suggested were inauthentic and why. But he did not do so and indeed he has never done so. He has had many opportunities to do so including being asked expressly to do so by way of a s.44B notice, and by Benjamin Douglas-Jones KC (sitting as a Deputy High Court Judge) in judicial review proceedings: [2022] EWHC 1793 (Admin).
b. As the SDT found, the Appellant provided no evidence in support of his contentions that the recordings were dubbed. Indeed, he did not question the accuracy of the words which the recordings and transcripts show that he used. Mr. Skeate submitted initially that the appellant told the SRA that these were "not my words". However, in answer to questions from the court he had to accept that the Appellant in fact never said that (see for example the Appellant's detailed letter of response to the SRA dated 7 April 2020).
c. The Appellant did not deny that the individual in the video was him.
d. The Appellant did not put forward any positive, alternative, account of what took place during the meetings.
e. The SDT found no motive on the part of the BBC, a highly respected broadcasting company, to manipulate the recordings. It rightly rejected as "outlandish" the Appellant's suggestion that he had been the victim of a conspiracy at the hands of the BBC, the government, and/or the SRA.
a. Lang J found that the Appellant's contentions about the accuracy of the recordings appeared "tenuous";
b. Heather Williams J found that the SDT's finding that "nothing had been produced that indicated that the evidence relied upon by the SRA had been fabricated" was "lawful";
c. Benjamin Douglas-Jones KC noted that "when pressed by the court, the claimant...was unable to say how [his "dubbing" argument] might affect his case at all, let alone materially, given his case that the conversation with the Reporter had taken place;
d. Coulson LJ noted that "despite all the time that has elapsed, no evidence has ever been provided by the applicant which suggested that the recordings were in any way inaccurate".
Ground 3: the decision is wrong due to actual bias of the Judge against the
Appellant during the currency of the case.
Ground 4: the Judge was wrong and unjust in refusing to recuse himself.
Ground 5: the hearing was not fair and in the circumstances, it was not fair to try the Appellant.
"(a) Where the judge comes to the conclusion that the prosecution evidence, taken at its highest, is such that a jury properly directed could not properly convict upon it, it is his duty, upon a submission being made, to stop the case. (b) Where however the prosecution evidence is such that its strength or weakness depends on the view to be taken of a witness's reliability, or other matters which are generally speaking within the province of the jury and where on one possible view of the facts there is evidence upon which a jury could properly come to the conclusion that the defendant is guilty, then the judge should allow the matter to be tried by the jury."
"The SDT made a careful evaluation in its judgment and concluded that there was no abuse of process or prejudice to Mr Naqvi in the proceedings continuing in the absence of Client A, essentially for two main reasons: (i) that Ms Potts[8] had been able to answer questions that would have been put to Client A in cross-examination in relation to the alleged entrapment and there was nothing Client A could have added to the evidence she had given ([17.49] of the judgment) and (ii) that the SDT had the advantage not usually available to a fact-finding Court or Tribunal of a complete transcript of the relevant interviews between Mr Naqvi and Client A. I consider that this evaluative judgment by the SDT cannot be faulted."
Ground 6: the Chair was wrong in refusing to stay the proceedings when there was serious lack of rigour by the SRA, more so by Capsticks who had practically taken over the matter when the SRA lost interest after 2 years of investigation.
Ground 7: the final decision was wrong also due to the way the chair proceeded with the case
(i) The chairman readily accepted clear misstatements.
(ii) The chairman blindly dismissed various applications readily and in totality.
(iii) The chairman drew no conclusions against the prosecution regarding:
a) destruction or non-disclosure of evidence;
b) clear issues with the authenticity of recordings;
c) actions making forensic testing impossible;
d) reliance on unauthentic copies with dates and time being removed;
e) neither the Reporter nor anyone from the BBC exhibiting the recordings relied upon and the Reporter not giving evidence;
f) BBC Producer not defending a damages case decreed in the matter where it was alleged by A that the recordings were racially motivated, were unlawful
(iv) There was mis-recording of procedural decisions made in the hearing to help the prosecution.
(v) The judgment preparation was left to the Tribunal clerk and the SRA representative.
(vi) relying on poorly and wrongly prepared Transcript through the SRA for use by the Tribunal in drafting the Judgement;
(vii) despite having decided that resumed cross examination of the SRA's Investigation Manager should be in person, allowed it to be remotely and resulting in a deadlock due to which the resumed cross examination did not go ahead;
(viii) despite requests from A, refusing to conduct the final hearing in person, the Tribunal's video link system failed and hearing being conducted over the telephone, depriving A of a proper opportunity to have his case heard properly and fairly;
(ix) taking A by surprise for the main hearing after a rushed through no case to answer hearing, offering no breaks against the medical advice, this was adhered to in the previous hearing. This was not pursued by Mr. Skeate;
(x) rushed the final hearing over the phone to an early close despite a full day available depriving A of proper opportunity for being heard;
(xi) having proceedings in the absence of A when he fell ill and not in contact only for a few hours while in hospital emergency, and during this time issuing directions to help SRA in damage control after shocking revelations in cross examination by the SRA Investigation Manager who believed the statements of the SRA's Solicitor made by her before the Tribunal and by her witness statement in the High Court, and he confirmed the opposite that: there were investigation findings on the actual case files of clients in 2017 at the firm's office (all the findings were 100% positive); that the notes and findings and the investigation files were not lost; that these were not reconstructed; that there were no several searches made to recover the files (that were not lost); and that he was made aware of such false statements only at the hearing day.
(xii) not allowing A to put questions in cross examination to BBC's Producer about other BBC's tempered/fake videos that brought them embarrassment (like Primark's fake video, fake bank statements in Lady Dianna case……), saying that these were high profile cases and are not relevant, thus prevented discussion of enormous material provided by A to show that BBC was notorious in making fake videos, admittedly;
(xiii) suggesting the BBC Producer during cross examination that he would not know the answers to questions asked about the correspondence disclosed for the mysterious period of December 2018 to February 2020, while the witness was happily answering the questions put by A, and even repeated the answers. This was not pursued by Mr. Skeate.
"The Tribunal considered the various defences advanced by Mr Salam in writing and by way of submissions. The Tribunal rejected them in their entirety as inconsistent, totally implausible and disingenuous. Mr Salam's contention that he was play-acting was at odds with the ebb and flow of his interactions with Client A which appeared natural and authentic."
"THE RESPONDENT[9]: (To the witness) The reporter said to you when she came in the car to listen to the recording, "Oh I'm so predictable." She also said before that "Oh thank God there are no CTTVs there." So if she's so predictable that it can be found easily that she's not what she's posing about, she doesn't have a good cover. So why do you send someone who is so predictable people can find out that she's not what she's posing to be when she's doing a secret investigation and she's afraid of CCTVs?
THE CHAIR: I am sorry, forgive me. This is very difficult and I am trying not to stray into the realms of---
THE RESPONDENT: No worries.
THE CHAIR: But I want to put this question in a manageable form.
THE RESPONDENT: Please.
THE CHAIR: We watched the video recording and I did hear "Oh I'm so predictable" as the parties got into the car or were about to get into the car. So you are asking the witness if he can comment on what she meant by "Oh I'm so predictable."
THE RESPONDENT: Yes.
THE CHAIR: (To the witness) Can you help us with that?
A. No, I can't, sorry, it's a long time ago and I'm not quite sure what she meant.
THE RESPONDENT: She is Pakistani, I am also Pakistani. We use these words interchangeably like "predictable" means someone who can be found out what he is. In English generally "prediction" means what will happen in the future.
THE CHAIR: Right.
THE RESPONDENT: It also means what is the actual position. So in other countries people use these terms a bit interchangeably.
THE CHAIR: This witness may not be able to help with that."
"(Outside the office the Reporter gets into a car.)
MALE VOICE 2: I was getting worried.
REPORTER: He had another client so I had to wait.
MALE VOICE 2: Yeah, because -
REPORTER: And as soon as you -
MALE VOICE 2: - I missed it, because it was on, it was on
silent, it was on silent and then -
REPORTER: Yeah, I rang, yeah.
MALE VOICE 2: - and then someone saw your call, yeah. And then
also, because I'd have [inaudible] so I'd have
to guess.
REPORTER: You're so... I'm so predictable.
[Laughter]
MALE VOICE 2: And then, because I was suddenly… (inaudible)
OK, because we missed that call didn't we, how
did it go?
REPORTER: (inaudible)
MALE VOICE 2: Oh fantastic.
REPORTER: He rang the accountant and we have got the
accountant's details.
MALE VOICE 2: Wow, look at that, wow."
(i) The Appellant does not even identify the "misstatements" relied upon.
(ii) The applications are not identified and this consists of mere assertion in any event.
(iii) (a) There was no evidence of any destruction or non-disclosure of evidence; (b) the SDT was fully entitled to find as a fact that the recordings were authentic; (c) The Appellant established no rational basis for forensic testing; (d) This again relates to a hopeless challenge to the authenticity of the recordings; (e) the SDT had the recordings and the transcripts before it and Mr. Grant gave evidence as to their authenticity; (f) this is wholly irrelevant to the allegations against the Appellant in this case.
(iv) This is unparticularised. If, as appears to be the case, it relates to the SDT's decision to hear the rest of Mr. Shield's evidence remotely (which is also ground (vii)) then Mr. Skeate abandoned that ground. In any event, the Appellant had agreed to this course (see paragraph 19 above).
(v) It is lawful for the narrative determination to be drafted by the SDT clerk and approved by the Panel: Rule 8(6)(h) of the Solicitors (Disciplinary Proceedings) Rules 2019. The SRA's representative had no role in the preparation of the determination. Sending transcripts of the hearing to the SDT is not "preparing the SDT's judgment."
(vi) The Appellant does not identify which part of the transcript is said to be incorrect and in what way that inaccuracy has had any material bearing on the SDT's decision.
(vii) Mr. Skeate did not pursue this sub-ground.
(viii) The SDT did conduct the final hearing at which closing submissions were made "in person", as it directed. The Appellant elected not to attend in person. He had produced no medical evidence to explain why he could not attend in person. The SDT accommodated the Appellant's decision. The Appellant claimed to have connectivity issues during the closings but he was able to join the hearing by telephone and to make his submissions in that way. The SDT had to decide between continuing with the hearing in a hybrid format or adjourning the hearing yet again. The proceedings had already been the subject of considerable delay. Having regard to all the circumstances, its decision to continue with a hybrid hearing (with the Appellant able to make his closing submissions by telephone) was entirely reasonable. The Appellant had already made extensive written and oral submissions and so his case was well understood. Moreover, there was no cross examination of any witnesses by this stage, only closing submissions.
(ix) As Mr. Tankel rightly submitted, the Appellant ought to have been prepared to continue with the substantive hearing after his recusal application was refused. The recusal application having been dismissed, there was no reason to adjourn at that stage. The Appellant had been given no indication that there would be an adjournment. On the contrary, he had made two last-minute applications to adjourn which had been rejected just prior to the resumed hearing. He made his recusal application on 5 February 2023 having had several months to prepare for the part-heard hearing and many more months to prepare for trial before that. There was no medical advice to suggest that there should be an adjournment.
(x) The hearing was not rushed. The Appellant had numerous opportunities to put his case in full to the SDT.
(xi) This sub-ground was not pursued by Mr. Skeate.
(xii) Mr. Skeate said that he was "instructed to pursue" this sub-ground, but he was clearly embarrassed to have to make the submission. He accepted that whether to allow such matters to be put to Mr. Grant was obviously in the SDT's discretion. Since Mr. Grant would have no knowledge of these matters and since they were irrelevant to the allegations levelled against the Appellant, the SDT's handling of the cross-examination in this respect is not open to sensible criticism.
(xiii) Mr. Skeate did not pursue this sub-ground.
Ground 8: the finding of dishonesty was wrong and unfair.
Ground 12: It was wrong for the Judge for brushing aside the principles regarding dishonesty as laid down by the Supreme Court in Ivey v Genting Casinos for A's assertion that he believed (rightly) that the undercover reporter was not a real client and that there was no potential application or case and that the discussion was therefore more of loose talk and play acting from both sides and there could be no occasion for dishonesty and that he had regretted and apologised to the SRA in the earliest instance for any loose talk regardless of the visitor not being a real client.
'When dishonesty is in question, the fact-finding tribunal must first ascertain (subjectively) the actual state of the individual's knowledge or belief as to the facts. The reasonableness or otherwise of his belief is a matter of evidence (often in practice determinative) going to whether he held the belief, but it is not an additional requirement that his belief must be reasonable; the question is whether it is genuinely held. When once his actual state of mind as to knowledge or belief as to facts is established, the question whether his conduct was honest or dishonest is to be determined by the fact-finder by applying the (objective) standards of ordinary decent people. There is no requirement that the defendant must appreciate that what he has done is, by those standards, dishonest.'
Ground 9: inconsistent findings
"Allegation 1.1.2 was inelegantly drafted and duplicitous in nature. The Tribunal considered that it added nothing to the gravamen of Allegation 1.1.1, was disproportionately and unnecessarily pursued."
Ground 10: Mitigation and Sanctions, it was disproportionate to strike the Appellant off
"In a joint judgment, the appeal court described, at [61], the tribunal's decision on sanction as "an evaluative decision based on many factors." There was, the court observed, "limited scope" for an appellate court to overturn such decisions. They added, at [67]:
"That general caution applies with particular force in the case of a specialist adjudicative body, such as the Tribunal in the present case,
which (depending on the matter in issue) usually has greater experience in the field in which it operates than the courts … An appeal court should only interfere with such an evaluative decision if (1) there was an error of principle in carrying out the evaluation, or (2) for any other reason, the evaluation was wrong, that is to say it was an evaluative decision which fell outside the bounds of what the adjudicative body could properly and reasonably decide."" (emphasis added)
"In relation to an appeal against sanction, it is well-established that whilst considerable respect should be paid to the sentencing decision of the Disciplinary Tribunal, the Court would interfere when satisfied that the sanction imposed was "clearly inappropriate": Salsbury v Law Society [2008] EWCA Civ 1285; [2009] 1 WLR 1286 per Jackson LJ at para 30" (emphasis added).
"The first stage is to assess the seriousness of the misconduct. The second stage is to keep in mind the purpose for which sanctions are imposed by such a tribunal. The third stage is to choose a sanction which most appropriately fulfils that purpose for the seriousness of the conduct in question."
"The Tribunal referred to its Guidance Note on Sanctions (Tenth Edition: June 2022) when considering sanction cognisant of the fact that the purpose of sanction was to preserve the overarching public interest which comprised of (a) the need to protect the public from harm, (b) the need to declare and uphold proper standards within the solicitor's profession and (c) the need to maintain public confidence in the regulatory framework."
"43. Given the serious finding of dishonesty, it was plain to Tribunal that other measures such as making no Order, imposing a reprimand, financial penalty, restrictions on Mr Salam's practice or a term of suspension from the Roll were neither appropriate nor proportionate.
44. The Tribunal found no exceptional circumstances either in the submissions that had been advanced by Mr Salam or evident on the face of the papers, and accordingly that the only sanction which sufficiently met the overarching public interest was an Order striking Mr Salam from the Roll of Solicitors."
Conclusion
CO/1213/2023 / AC-2023-LON-000353
IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE
ON APPEAL FROM THE SOLICITORS DISCIPLINARY TRIBUNAL
IN THE MATTER OF an appeal pursuant to s.49 of the Solicitors Act 1974
B E T W E E N:-
Appellant
Respondent
23.7.2020 | SDT certifies case |
10.9.2020 | Appellant makes application for specific disclosure for the documents relating to "negotiations" between SRA and BBC about Paul Grant's witness statement; communications between the SRA and BBC about the latter's contact with the accountant; an earlier FIR that the Appellant believes must have been produced; and evidence concerning the FIO's consideration of individual client files. |
20.9.2020 | Appellant makes application for proceedings to be stayed as abuse of process, for want of fair disclosure. |
28.10.2020 | Appellant applies for two-week adjournment of the disciplinary hearing, due to commence on 30.10.2020. |
30.10.2020 | SDT refuses specific disclosure and abuse of process applications. |
16.11.2020 | Appellant applies for Judicial Review of (i) SDT's refusal of specific disclosure and abuse of process applications and (ii) SDT's decision to certify the proceedings ("JR1") |
14.12.2020 | Appellant applies for permission to rely upon expert forensic evidence regarding the recordings; renewed and expanded his request for specific disclosure; sought directions from SDT that SRA should be required to use its statutory powers to obtain information from the BBC; and sought disclosure of the identity of the undercover reporter and a summons requiring her attendance. |
17.12.2020 | Appellant applies for adjournment of trial listed for 15-17 February 2021, because of outstanding 14.12.2020 application and outstanding JR1. |
5.1.2021 | Appellant makes specific disclosure requests to SRA. |
6.1.2021 | SDT refuses applications for expert, specific disclosure, and adjournment. |
15.1.2021 | Appellant makes application for extension of time for providing witness statements, to give time to obtain identify and summons of undercover journalist. |
22.1.2021 | Appellant applies to adjourn substantive hearing on 15-17.2.2021 on medical grounds. |
23.1.2021 | SDT refused application for adjournment on medical grounds: insufficient evidence. |
3.2.2021 | Appellant renews application to adjourn substantive hearing on 15-17.2.2021 on medical grounds, with further medical evidence. |
9.2.2021 | SDT grants application for adjournment on medical grounds. The evidence remains insufficient but the SDT nevertheless wishes to ensure that "the Appellant is given every opportunity to participate in the proceedings". |
12.4.2021 | Appellant applies for JR of SDT's decision dated 6.1.2021 ("JR2") |
27.4.2021 | Appellant applies to adjourn substantive hearing, on medical grounds. |
29.4.2021 | SDT adjourns substantive hearing for 6 months, on medical grounds. |
8.6.2021 | In JR2, Clive Sheldon KC grants permission concerning (i) SRA obtaining identity of undercover reporter from BBC and (ii) specific disclosure, but refused permission on (iii) expert evidence. |
3.8.2021 | Appellant applies for stay of proceedings on grounds of abuse of process that material evidence about the recordings has been withheld/destroyed; alternatively for directions excluding the evidence of the recordings and the transcripts. |
Appellant submits that SRA's referral decision and SDT's certification decision were both obtained based on fraudulent evidence. | |
Appellant also submits that SDT's decision dated 30.10.2020 was based on untrue submission that the BBC had provided transcripts of the meetings. | |
9.8.2021 | Appellant applies at a CMH for adjournment of substantive trial pending the outcome of JR1 & JR2. |
7.10.2021 | Permission for JR1 refused at an oral renewal hearing, by Swift J. The specific disclosure challenge was without merit (para 12) and without purpose (para 13). The grounds of the stay application were matters to be considered by the SDT at trial on its assessment of the merits (paras 16 and 18). The certification challenge was a repackaging of the abuse challenge (para 5). |
13.10.2021 | Appellant seeks permission to appeal ("PTA") to Court of Appeal against permission decision of Swift J in JR1. |
3.11.2021 | Appellant seeks direction that recordings only admissible if provided with forensic evidence, and for specific disclosure of documents relating to authenticity of the recordings. |
Appellant repeats the claim that SRA's referral decision and SDT's certification decision were both obtained based on fraudulent evidence. | |
Appellant repeats the claim that the SDT's decision of 30.10.2022 was based on false submission. | |
9.11.2021 | SDT refuses: abuse of process application on ground that it was materially identical to the application determined on 30.10.2020; application to exclude evidence on ground that it was the same as the abuse application; application for expert on grounds that it had already been decided and new application was not substantially different; and various applications for specific disclosure. |
23.2.2022 | Appellant seeks judicial review of SDT's decision dated 9.11.2021 ("JR3") |
6.3.2022 | Appellant applies for adjournment of substantive hearing fixed for 4-8 April 2022, because of outstanding JR applications. |
16.3.2022 | SDT grants adjournment application. |
19.4.2022 | Mrs Justice Heather Williams refuses permission for JR3 and certifies it as being totally without merit. |
27.5.2022 | JR2 (on specific disclosure and obtaining identity of undercover journalist) refused following substantive hearing before Mr Douglas-Jones KC. |
16.6.2022 | Appellant applies for permission to appeal ("PTA") to Court of Appeal in JR2. |
22.9.2022 | Appellant applies to set aside decision of 30.10.2020 on grounds that it was obtained by fraud (the "set aside application"). |
27.9.2022 | SDT returns set aside application on basis that it was an appeal against an earlier decision of the SDT, which it has no jurisdiction to determine. |
30.9.2022 | Appellant applies for specific disclosure of "missing" telephone attendance notes. |
5.10.2022 | Appellant applies to adjourn this hearing on basis of outstanding PTA applications; outstanding SDT applications. |
10.10.2022 | Appellant seeks judicial review of SDT's decision to return the "set aside application" ("JR4"), and applies for interim relief adjourning trial until JR5 is resolved. |
6.10.2022 | Appellant applies to set aside certification decision of 23.10.2020. |
17.10.2022 | SDT refuses applications for adjournment and specific disclosure. |
19.10.2022 | Appellant seeks judicial review of SDT's decision to refuse applications for adjournment and specific disclosure, and seeks urgent interim relief adjourning trial until the outstanding applications for PTA and other procedural applications before the SDT are resolved ("JR5"). |
21.10.2022 | Mr Justice Kerr refuses applications for interim relief in JR4 and JR5 and certifies them TWM; refuses permission in JR4 and JR5. |
31.10.2022 | On day 1 of hearing, Appellant applies for adjournment, on similar grounds. SDT dismisses application. |
1.11.2022 | On day 2 of hearing, hearing adjourned part-heard due to Appellant's claimed ill-health. The matter was adjourned to 4 November 2022 for a case management hearing. |
3.11.2022 | Appellant applies to the SDT for directions requiring the SRA to carry out further investigations. SDT dismisses application on the basis that it is for the SRA, not the SDT, to carry out investigations and decide how best to present its case. |
27.1.2023 | Appellant applies to SDT to adjourn part-heard hearing due to ill-health. SDT dismisses application. |
30.1.2023 | Appellant applies to High Court to set aside earlier judgment on grounds that it was obtained by fraud. Applies for interim relief restraining the remainder of the hearing from resuming. |
2.2.2023 | Appellant applies to SDT to adjourn part-heard hearing because of outstanding High Court application. Application dismissed. |
5.2.2023 | Appellant applies to SDT for Panel chair to recuse himself and for hearing to be commenced afresh. Application dismissed. |
8.2.2023 | Appellant applies to SDT to adjourn remainder of the hearing on grounds that (a) he is not ready and (b) he was expecting Mr Shields to attend to be cross-examined in-person. Application dismissed. |
9.2.2023 | Hearing concluded and decision announced. |
9.3.2023 | Reasons for decision promulgated. |
3.4.2023 | Hearing of this appeal. |
Note 1 See also the observations of Coulson LJ on the Applicant’s (dismissed) application for permission to appeal in JR2:“...the applicant has approached the disciplinary proceedings in completely the wrong way, and wasted an enormous amount of time and costs in so doing.”
[Back] Note 2 In which Mr. Grant put the allegation to the Appellant, that he had offered dishonestly to assist Client A to obtain a spouse’s visa [Back] Note 3 Such as the false suggestion that the SRA conceded that the recordings were not authentic. It plainly did nothing of the sort. At a CMC on 30 October 2020, counsel for the SRA submitted that “[The Appellant] is entitled to say that the BBC acted in bad faith and they fabricated evidence and they presented this Radio 4 documentary which quite frankly was a total misrepresentation of what actually happened on this recording.” However, in his skeleton argument, the Appellant fails to note the fact that immediately after this passage counsel continued:“Of course he is entitled to do that but this is not the venue and this is not the process. That is for the final hearing which is yet to be fixed”. [Back] Note 4 Contrary to Mr Skeate’s submission, merely asserting that the words in the transcript were “not my words” is obviously insufficient to support a submission that the recordings were inauthentic. [Back] Note 5 See his First witness statement at paragraph 6 and paragraph 5 of his second witness statement [Back] Note 6 See the transcript of his evidence on 31 October 2022 at p. 21C-D and 21H-22A. See also p. 22 and 25, confirming the safe preservation of the recordings from the moment they were handed to Mr. Grant by Client A until they were handed by him to BBC Legal Department, showing that they were not tampered with. [Back] Note 7 Indeed the High Court has described this as “certainly his principal defence”; the Court of Appeal described it as his “primary defence.” [Back]