QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
ADMINISTRATIVE COURT
B e f o r e :
(Sitting as a Judge of the High Court)
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THE QUEEN ON THE APPLICATION OF LAKENHEATH PARISH COUNCIL |
Claimant |
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SUFFOLK COUNTY COUNCIL |
Defendant |
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MR R. GROUND QC (instructed by David Hole) appeared on behalf of the Defendant.
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THE JUDGE:
"Lakenheath Parish Council strongly believe that this is this is not the best suited site for a school to serve their village. For these main reasons, they object strongly to the proposed school site, especially when there are better sites within the village boundary available."
"It is important, in my view, that the courts in interpreting and applying this duty should not do so in a way that introduces unnecessary and cumbersome formality and box ticking. A duty to have 'due regard' to matters does not require the decision taker in all cases to go looking for possible implications for any or all of the protected characteristics, but only to consider them properly where they are substantively raised on the facts."
"It is necessary in my view to exercise due caution with new material and new points taken, especially with respect to written representations appeals which are intended to be short and for straightforward cases. It is not to be expected as a general rule that inspectors should seek to find new points though there are bound, from time to time, to be some cases where there may be obvious errors or omissions, for example, the failure to consider a plainly applicable policy."
"47. The do- nothing option is not considered appropriate as the proposal seeks to meet development needs. Lakenheath has been identified to receive a considerable level of housing growth and additional educational infrastructure needed to support this growth.
48. The applicant has considered the need for a new primary school in Lakenheath since 2013. Several site options have been considered: see table 1 below."
"Within current planning application F142096HYB considered isolated and accessibility could be improved by relocating further south to site now proposed."
"Currently woodland. Partly covered by TPO. Tree loss would have adverse ecological and visual impacts. No additional land available for expansion. Similar noise impacts to site now proposed."
"Access constrained as via residential estate roads. Close to existing primary school with potential for local highway congestion. No additional land for expansion. Location would be noisier than the site now proposed. There will be acquisition costs."
"Isolated site outside settlement boundary and poorly located with respect to future housing development."
"Location not ideal with respect to future housing growth. There would be acquisition costs."
"Very noisy location close to end of run way of Lakenheath airbase, detached from Lakenheath village with potential for highway issues."
"Location of existing primary school. Insufficient land is available to extend the school to accommodate the required growth."
"69. The noise impact assessment addresses all the relevant issues. The report states that the site is considered acoustically suitable for a primary school. I generally agree with the assessment methodology adopted and the recommendations given in the report. I consider, however, that aircraft noise could prove a significant issue in any external teaching areas. If there are to be any such areas, I recommended you satisfy yourself that the school body are fully aware of it and accept the limitations on the use of any external areas.
70. The survey confirms that aircraft noise is very significant on the site with average noise levels (LAEQ 30 min) generally above 55 DBA over 60 DBA for around half the time and even reaching 70 DBA on a few occasions. The proposed solution to achieve the noise criteria set out in BB 93 inside classrooms is enhanced facade of high performance acoustic glazing and mechanical ventilation. This is considered an acceptable approach."
"71. The measured noise levels far exceed the desirable noise levels in external areas due to aircraft flyovers. AJA, who conducted the noise surveys, point out that the noise climate is relatively quiet for the majority of the time interspersed with high noise levels when teaching outside could be paused. Consider it imperative that the school body are aware of this limitation and are willing to accept it.
72. Agrees with the conclusion of the report that with adequate noise attenuation plant noise from mechanical ventilation is unlikely to be an issue. Background noise levels are proposed as the basis for setting plant noise limits. Recommends 30 DBA LA 90 is used in the evening not 32 DBA. Also recommends that noise limits are based on the rating level of plant not exceeding the measured background noise levels at all times, rather than providing a relaxation during evenings and weekends, as is proposed. Recommends that plant noise emissions are conditioned if the application is approved: see condition 30 above.
73. Agrees the conclusion of the report that the impact on surrounding noise-sensitive properties of noise from sport's activity and from traffic generated by the school is unlikely to be an issue."
"121. Advice on noise levels in outside areas of schools where the building regulations do not apply is contained in the joint Institute of Acoustics/Association of Noise Consultants publication 'Acoustics of schools. A design guide published in 2015.' It states:
'(a) The following recommendations are considered good practice for providing suitable acoustic conditions outside school buildings. For new schools 60 DBLAEQ 30 minutes should be regarded as an upper limit for external noise at the boundary of external areas used for formal and informal outdoor teaching and rectify.(b) It may be possible to meet the specified indoor ambient noise levels on sites where external noise levels are as high as 70 DBLAEQ 30 min, but this will require considerable building envelope sound insulation or screening.(c) Playgrounds, outdoor recreation areas and playing fields are generally considered to be of relatively low sensitivity to noise.'.
Indeed, playing fields may be used as buffer zones to separate school buildings from busy roads where necessary. However, where used for teaching, for example sports lessons, outdoor ambient noise levels have a significant impact on communication in an environment which is already acoustically less favourable than most classrooms. Noise levels in unoccupied playgrounds, playing fields and other outdoor areas should not exceed 55 DBLAEQ 30 min and there should be at least one area suitable for outdoor teaching activities where noise levels are below 50 DBLAEQ 30 min. If this is not possible due to a lack of suitably quiet sites, acoustic screening should be used to reduce noise levels in these areas as much as practicable and an assessment of the noise levels and options for reducing these should be carried out.
122. An onsite noise survey was conducted for one week during March 2018. This indicated that external noise levels average 66. DBLAEQ 30 min and typically peaked at between 80 and 85 DB. This would considerably exceed the above guideline. It is unlikely a teacher would be able to address a group of children for the duration of an aircraft overflight and teaching would have to be paused for short periods during overflights. Five covered shelters would be provided around the school sites to provide some mitigation of direct noises for pupils' comfort during external play and teaching in small groups. These shelters are expected to provide around 5 DBA reduction in noise levels. The precise degree of mitigation would be determined by their detailed construction and siting to be agreed by condition on any grant of planning permission.
123. Between overflights the primary source of noise in outdoor areas of the school would be traffic on Station Road. The school building would provide some acoustic screening of traffic noise to the outdoor dining area and nearby grassed areas. As a result, noise level in these areas is expected to be below 50 DBALAEQT between overflights.
124. Planning guidance accompanying the NPPF [that is the National Planning Policy Framework] states that the impact of noise levels will depend on how various factors combine in any given situation, including the source and absolute level of noise. For non-continuous sources of noise the number of noise events and the frequency and pattern of occurrence of the noise, the spectral content and general character of the noise. It also states that noise impacts should not be considered in isolation separately from economic, social and other dimensions of the project.
125. On the proposed site average daytime noise levels during school hours are mainly influenced by relatively short periods of high noise levels due to overflying aircraft with relatively low and constant residual noise levels at other times. Analysis of the four 30 minute periods during school hours with the highest measured short-term noise levels shows that aircraft noise typically peaked at 80 to 58 DBA, but that these averaged less than seven minutes in duration.
126. The applicant has confirmed acceptance that overflying would impose some limitation on the use of external areas for teaching due to short periods of loud noise. It considers the sound- limiting pods could be used as teaching or play spaces for younger pupils and for formal sports tuition instruction, if it is taking place outside when overflying is in progress.
127. Aircraft noise around Lakenheath will vary according to daily operational requirements of the base, as well as factors such as weather and flight paths. Its nature is quite different to the more constant noise from a busy road or civil airport. The level of activity during the survey period is considered to be representative of the daily activity at the base, which averages 80 to 90 aircraft movements, including landings:
information from RAF Lakenheath commander's office. The survey is also broadly consistent with the latest published noise contours for the Lakenheath Airbase which place the application site halfway between the 66 DBLAEQ 16-hour and the 72 DBLAEQ 16-hour contour.
I therefore consider sufficient information is available to properly assess the noise environment at the application site."
"162. The main policy breach relates to impact of aircraft noise on external areas of the school which cannot be fully mitigated. Although noise levels from passing aircraft may interrupt teaching in outside areas, this would be for relatively short periods and, given its sporadic nature, not all external lessons would be affected. The applicant has confirmed that this limitation on the use of outside areas for teaching is accepted.
163. Aircraft noise is endemic to the Lakenheath area. Published noise contours for RAF Lakenheath show that the application site is in a relatively favourable noise environment, as noise levels increase in a southerly direction towards the village centre. By comparison, the existing Lakenheath Primary School is on the 72 DB contour in a noisier environment than the application site. Its school buildings were not constructed to defend against aircraft noise, but, despite this, it has a good Ofsted rating and Ofsted reports do not mention military aircraft noise as an issue.
164. While noise nuisance is clearly a dis-benefit in the planning balance, the weight to be attributed to it is reduced by its sporadic nature and because it cannot be avoided if a new school is to be built to serve the new housing planned on the north side of Lakenheath. Government planning guidance makes it clear that in the planning balance noise should not be considered in isolation.165. On site specific issues there is a large degree of conformity with the NPPF and Local Plan Policies. Taken as a whole, the proposals are considered to constitute sustainable development where any adverse impacts are decisively outweighed by the benefits of a new village school and preschool. I therefore recommended that planning permission is granted with the conditions set out in para.13 above."
"In order to fulfil their duties under the Equality Act 2010, school client bodies should anticipate the needs of deaf and other disabled children as current and potential future users of the school.'"
"Pupils with special educational needs are generally even more sensitive to the acoustic environment than others."
"Pupils with hearing impairment, autism and other special needs are often very sensitive to specific types of noise, particularly those with strong tonal impulsive or intermittent characteristics. This should be taken into account in the design of areas which may be used by such children."
"Our noise assessment is for a mainstream school and, indeed, in our BB 93 assessment we have confirmed that this school was neither intended nor designed to be suitable for children with special hearing or communication needs, as defined in BB 93. This definition includes children with hearing impairment, ASD and ADHD, as discussed by Mr Clarke."
"Was neither intended nor designed to be suitable for children with special hearing or communication needs [including children with hearing impairment, ASD and ADHD]."
"It is the county's policy to integrate students with disabilities in mainstream settings where this is appropriate for their learning. However, some young people have needs that are so significant and complex that they require specialist facilities and resources."
"Our strategy is to support the majority of children in their local mainstream schools."
"21. Prior to their construction, details of the noise attenuation shelters shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the county planning authority. Such details shall include constructional details, facing materials, overall dimensions and orientation of openings. The shelters shall be provided in the approved form and, thereafter, be retained.
27. Following completion of construction and prior to occupation, a copy of the test report carried out in accordance with the recommendation of BB 93 Acoustic Design for Schools shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the county planning authority."
"41. The Planning Court – and this court too – must always be vigilant against excessive legalism infecting the planning system. A planning decision is not akin to an adjudication made by a court [and he cites an authority]. The courts must keep in mind that the function of planning decision- making has been assigned by Parliament, not to judges, but – at local level – to elected councillors with the benefit of advice given to them by planning officers, most of whom are professional planners, and – on appeal – to the Secretary of State and his inspectors."
"Planning officers and inspectors are entitled to expect that both national and local planning policy is as simply and clearly stated as it can be, and also – however well or badly a policy is expressed – that the court's interpretation of it will be straightforward, without undue or elaborate exposition. Equally, they are entitled to expect – in every case – good sense and fairness in the court's review of a planning decision, not the hypercritical approach the court is often urged to adopt.
42. The principles on which the court will act when criticism is made of a planning officer's report to committee are well settled. To summarize the law as it stands:
(1) The essential principles are as stated by the Court of Appeal in R. v Selby District Council, ex parte Oxton Farms [1997] EGCS 60 (see, in particular, the judgment of Judge L.J., as he then was). They have since been confirmed several times by this court, notably by Sullivan L.J. in R. (on the application of Siraj) v K irklees Metropolitan Borough Council [2010] EWCA Civ 1286, at paragraph 19, and applied in many cases at first instance (see, for example, the judgment of Hickinbottom J., as he then was, in R. (on the application of Zurich Assurance Ltd., t/a Threadneedle Property Investments) v North Lincolnshire Council [2012] EWHC 3708 (Admin), at paragraph 15).
(2) The principles are not complicated. Planning officers' reports to committee are not to be read with undue rigour, but with reasonable benevolence, and bearing in mind that they are written for councillors with local knowledge (see the judgment of Baroness Howell of Richmond in R. (on the application of Morge) v Hampshire County Council [2011] UKSC 2, at paragraph 36, and the judgment of Sullivan J., as he then was, in R. v Mendip District Council, ex parte Fabre (2000) 80 P. & C.R. 500, at p.509). Unless there is evidence to suggest otherwise, it may reasonably be assumed that, if the members followed the officer's recommendation, they did so on the basis of the advice that he or she gave (see the judgment of Lewison L.J. in Palmer v Herefordshire Council [2016] EWCA Civ 1061, at paragraph 7)."
"The question for the court will always be whether, on a fair reading of the report as a whole, the officer has materially misled the members on a matter bearing upon their decision, and the error has gone uncorrected before the decision was made. Minor or inconsequential errors may be excused. It is only if the advice in the officer's report is such as to misdirect the members in a material way – so that, but for the flawed advice it was given, the committee's decision would or might have been different – that the court will be able to conclude that the decision itself was rendered unlawful by that advice."
"Where the line is drawn between an officer's advice that is significantly or seriously misleading – misleading in a material way – and advice that is misleading but not significantly so will always depend on the context and circumstances in which the advice was given, and on the possible consequences of it. There will be cases [he continued] in which a planning officer has inadvertently led a committee astray by making some significant error of fact [and he cites an example] or has plainly misdirected the members as to the meaning of a relevant policy [again, he cites an example]. There will be others where the officer has simply failed to deal with a matter on which the committee ought to receive explicit advice if the local planning authority is to be seen to have performed its decision- making duties in accordance with the law [and he cites another example]. But unless there is some distinct and material defect in the officer's advice, the court will not interfere."
MR GROUND: My Lord, I am most grateful. In those circumstances, I, on behalf of Suffolk, apply for our costs. We do not seek to go behind the cost capping order and I have had discussions with my learned friend, Isabella Tafur and I do not think there is any point.
THE JUDGE: Remind me what was the sum of the cap?
MR GROUND: The sum of the cap we could only benefit to the extent of X£15,000 and I can take you to the order if you just----
THE JUDGE: I am content to accept your statement in that regard. That is the decision of Mr Cameron?
MR GROUND: No, it was the earlier one. I am so sorry. I think it is on p.115 and following. It is the order of Mr John Howell QC, sitting as a Deputy.
THE JUDGE: He dealt with that. You are quite right.
MR GROUND: He did deal with it and he had dealt with an earlier case on cost capping and so on, but you will see at p.117 he imposed a limit of £15,000 and the costs schedule that we have passed up is largely academic, because it considerably exceeds the £15,000 recovering everything.
THE JUDGE: I see. It is the last line of (5) of his reasons. MR GROUND: You are exactly right, my Lord.
THE JUDGE: And Mr Tafur, I suspect you cannot resist that.
MS TAFUR: My Lord, no. I do not resist the principle of the costs.
I do have an application to make in respect of permission to appeal. Firstly, my Lord, the absence of Mr Streeten today is intended as no it disrespect. He is tied up on an inquiry in South Oxfordshire this week, which is why I am attending on his behalf. I am in a slightly difficult position in terms of permission to appeal.
THE JUDGE: Ms Tafur, you are in a very difficult position. MS TAFUR: Yes, my Lord.
THE JUDGE: I had this debate in another case in which I handed-down judgment last week. Let me summarise my perception of the position and then you can tell me what it is that you want to do.
MS TAFUR: Yes.
THE JUDGE: In dicta that are obiter not binding upon me, but I accept highly persuasive, Jackson LJ has indicated that the usual course is to seek in the first instance permission to appeal if sought from the local court. With the greatest of respect to the learned Lord Justice, the difficulty with that proposition is that particularly someone in your position, who did not act in the hearing and did not know what I was going to decide or what the reasons for my decision were going to be, cannot answer any of the four questions that, if you persist in your application, I will ask you to address, because if you do not address them, the answer has to be a resounding and immediate refusal.
Those questions are. What error of law do you submit I have been guilty of? Secondly, what relevant fact have I failed to take into account? Thirdly, what irrelevant fact have I based my decision upon? Fourthly, what is it about my decision that is perverse in the sense that no reasonable judge could have come to the decision? Unless you establish arguability to the relevant threshold of one of those four propositions, you cannot get off the starting line.
Contrary to the exhortation of Jackson LJ, it is not unfair in those circumstances, despite his preference from the elevated position of the appellate court, not to have to deal with permission applications. It is not unfair, because the losing party always has the opportunity to reflect on the judgment and consider its position and then formulate in a proper fashion what are the bases upon which permission to appeal is sought and put them in a N161 applying to the Appeal Court for permission. Therefore, whatever may be the pragmatic exhortations of Jackson LJ, there is in fact nothing procedurally or substantively prejudicing you in keeping your powder dry, letting Mr Streeten reflect on the judgment that I have given and for him to consider whether any grounds of appeal are sufficient for him to advise his clients to make an application by filing and serving form N161 in the Appeal Court.
MS TAFUR: My Lord, yes. I wonder if there is, potentially, a practical step that we could take to enable the Parish Council, if they are so advised, to have the opportunity to make the application to you and, if unsuccessful, then to the Court of Appeal, which would be to allow a short period of time, say until Monday, for the Parish counsel to submit in writing its application for permission to appeal to be considered by you, my Lord.
THE JUDGE: No, I cannot do it in writing, because they are entitled to be heard. On Monday I start sitting again in my home court in Exeter. Would Mr Streeten and Mr Ground like to attend me in Exeter on Monday or some other suitable time?
MS TAFUR: Certainly, my Lord, I cannot speak for Mr Ground's arguments.
MR GROUND: It would be a pleasure and delight, my Lord, but, unfortunately, I am on away and it has been booked for some time. I cannot. My family would be very disappointed.
THE JUDGE: But guidance is that the question should be made to the lower court and decided on the occasion at which the lower court makes its decision.
MS TAFUR: My Lord, yes.
THE JUDGE: The guidance in fact does not prevent, but it discourages the adjournment of applications for permission to appeal to yet further hearings. If you need time to reflect and consider, well, then reflect and consider before the appeal court when you make your application. How are you worse off by being made to do that?
MS TAFUR: My Lord, well, I understand that, generally speaking, the application is certainly made at the hand-down of judgment. Difficulties inevitably arise when there has not been an opportunity to consider the reasoning in advance. In circumstances, which you have indicated, that the Parish Council will have the opportunity to consider and reflect upon the judgment, I wonder then if I may crave your indulgence that the Parish Council should have 14 days from receipt of the transcript of your judgment within which to lodge an appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Plainly, I have done my best in taking a note of what you have said, as those behind me will have done, but it was at quite a pace and to allow for the Parish Council to properly reflect and formulate, as you said, their grounds, I wonder if that may be acceptable.
THE JUDGE: Mr Ground?
MR GROUND: My Lord, we do not want to stand in the way of being helpful to the claimant.
The only difficult is that if you make it conditional on the transcript we do not know exactly when the transcript is available and we obviously have duties, or the applicant for planning permission has duties, in terms of the providing the school and do not want to see this delayed, it being a planning matter in which the courts have----
THE JUDGE: You are not likely to be breaking ground next week are you? MR GROUND: No, my Lord. That is absolutely right.
THE JUDGE: What you want is finality.
MR GROUND: But the transcript can sometimes take several months to produce and then the normal time limits for appeal, I think, are three weeks in the case of ground three and I think they are shorter so far as permission is concerned, because I do not think you actually had, according to the JR guide, in terms of grounds one and two that had to go to the Court of Appeal any, I think, and you could not have dealt with any permission on it having been refused permission twice by the High Court. I think that is 25.3.1.
My Lord, all I seek is that the normal rules so far as time limits are concerned it being a planning.
THE JUDGE: You say I have no jurisdiction in relation to my decision under -- one. MR GROUND: One and two.
THE JUDGE: To refuse permission. That has to go to the Appeal Court in any event. MR GROUND: I think that is right.
THE JUDGE: So the application can only be in relation to ground three.
MR GROUND: Yes, my Lord. I think that is right. I do not know whether you have jurisdiction on time limits so far as the----
THE JUDGE: It is 52, is it not?
MR GROUND: Yes, it is 52. It is 52.8.1 so far as the permission hearing is concerned can, once permission has been refused, and 52.8.1 says "where permission to apply to JR has been refused at a hearing in the High Court..."
THE JUDGE: That is what excludes grounds one and two. MR GROUND: Yes, my Lord.
THE JUDGE: Then so far as ground three is concerned, the application is for me to extend the time for appealing. Where is that provided for? 12, I think.
MR GROUND: My Lord, the normal rule is three weeks, 21 days. MS TAFUR: 21 days from the decision.
THE JUDGE: Actually, there is a simpler and neater way through this. For the reason that Mr Ground correctly identifies, if and in so far as you wish to challenge my decision in relation to ground one and ground two, you are obliged to go to the Court of Appeal anyway and you have to do so within the relevant time. I have no jurisdiction whatsoever and, if that is true in relation to those two grounds, you are not suffering any prejudice by me not acceding to your application in relation to ground three. You take your chance in respect of the lot in front of the Court of Appeal judge.
MS TAFUR: No construction to hear the application for permission to appeal on grounds one and two.
THE JUDGE: No, not even to entertain the application.
MS TAFUR: No, to consider an application, any application for permission to appeal on grounds one and two has to go to the Court of Appeal.
THE JUDGE: And, by definition, any application for an extension of time within which to appeal must go to them as well. It cannot be for me, because, as the lower court, I have no power.
MS TAFUR: The difficulty that we find ourselves in, my Lord, is the absence of a transcript or a draft judgment.
THE JUDGE: Well, you will have to order one and pay for it promptly. You can make the relevant application to the transcribers today.
MS TAFUR: We can.
THE JUDGE: And you can ask for it to be expedited. MS TAFUR: Yes.
THE JUDGE: It just costs money.
MS TAFUR: Yes. It is not an issue of money. It is the delay that it causes. My instructing solicitor was waiting, as I understand, over eight weeks for a copy of the transcript for a February hearing.
THE JUDGE: Well, I do not know what the circumstances of that were or who the judge was, but you will not wait eight weeks for me to approve a transcript of any judgment that is sent to me. It is rare in the extreme, unless I am actually away and, sadly, I have, but two days in May, no booked time away between now and the long vacation, rare in the extreme for me to take more than 24 hours to turn around a transcript for approval.
MS TAFUR: Well, my Lord----
THE JUDGE: Indeed, all judges should do that.
MS TAFUR: I am grateful for that indication, my Lord, and I know you will have in mind the interests of the Parish Council in properly considering and reflecting on the reasons that you expressed in your judgment in order to enable----
THE JUDGE: I think you have to put in your notice of appeal. You can reserve your position as to perfecting the grounds. You have a note of my reasons.
MS TAFUR: Yes.
THE JUDGE: Mr Streeten will be able to consider whether they appear to give rise to any basis for alleging complaint and, if he does so and can formulate them, he can apply on the N161 for time to perfect his grounds until after the provision of the approved judgment and there is a reasonable chance, I am not going to bind the Court of Appeal, but there is a reasonable chance that they will give him that time.
MS TAFUR: I am grateful, my Lord.
THE JUDGE: So I am not actually going to decide it unless you press me to and, as I say, can you tell me what my error of law is?
MS TAFUR: No, my Lord. I am not pressing you in the circumstances.
THE JUDGE: I think that is a wise decision, if I may say so, Ms Tafur. Have I pronounced your name correctly?
MS TAFUR: You have.
THE JUDGE: If I had not, no offence was intended. So, nothing further required. For the benefit of the associate, will you prepare a minute of order and submit it as a Word document? It should be a simple and short order, Mr Ground.
MR GROUND: Yes. My Lord, there is a standard amount of days for the costs provision. Is that 14 days? I will speak to the associate.
THE JUDGE: I would be happier if you were to do so. I think the order can simply recite that the sum is limited to the sum of the cap.
MR GROUND: It was just the time for payment. Is that 14 days?
THE JUDGE: It is normally 14, but if they want to apply for further time they can. MR GROUND: My Lord, shall we just resolve that.
MS TAFUR: Could we discuss it between ourselves perhaps and include it in the order.
MR GROUND: Yes. We can but, my Lord, while you are here, can we just have an one minute discussion?
THE JUDGE: How long do you want?
MR GROUND: One minute maybe. (Pause)
My Lord, I do not think -- it might go to and fro. I just wondered if you would be able to order costs within 14 days. My learned friend is not able to take lay client instructions now.
THE JUDGE: Would you be prepared, voluntarily, in the absence of instructions from her, to grant the claimant a degree of further latitude?
MR GROUND: Yes, my Lord. 21 days? Very well. THE JUDGE: If you need any more, talk to them.
MR GROUND: Good.
THE JUDGE: Not to me.
MR GROUND: Thank you, my Lord.
THE JUDGE: Thank you very much indeed.
I ought to say before I rise to you, Mr Ground, and also please send the message back to Mr Streeten, I did not do so formally in my judgment and I ought to have, thanked both of them for the quality of the oral and written submissions made in this case. Despite my observation about the volume of authority, which I think could have been more sparingly deployed, the principles that were being applied were analysed effectively in written and oral advocacy, which I found helpful and I am grateful to counsel for their efforts in this case.
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