QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
(Administrative Court)
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B e f o r e :
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The Queen (on the application of Main) |
Claimant |
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Minister for Legal Aid Network Rail Infrastructure Ltd (Network Rail) First Great Western Ltd (FGW) Rail Safety and Standards Board (RSSB) |
Defendant First Interested Party Second Interested Party Third Interested Party |
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Nathalie Lieven QC (instructed by The Treasury Solicitor) for the Defendant
Oliver Campbell (instructed by Greenwoods LLP ) for the First Interested Party
Clive Fletcher-Wood, Burges Salmon, for the Second Interested Party
Andrew Kinnier (instructed by RSSB) for the Third Interested Party
Hearing dates: 26.02.2007 and 27.02.2007
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The Honourable Mr Justice Owen :
Public legal funding is made available for civil and criminal cases under the Access to Justice Act 1999 (the Act). Section 1 establishes the Legal Services Commission (LSC). Under section 4(1) the LSC is required to maintain the Community Legal Service in order to secure, within the resources made available and priorities set in accordance Part 1 of the Act, that individuals "have access to services that effectively meet their needs". By section 5(1) the LSC "…shall establish and maintain a fund known as the Community Legal Service Fund from which it shall fund services as part of the Community Legal Service".
"(8) The [Lord Chancellor] –
may by direction require the Commission to fund the provision of any of the services specified in Schedule 2 in circumstances specified in the direction, and
may authorise the Commission to fund the provision of any of those services in specified circumstances or, if the Commission requests him to do so, in an individual case".
Chapter 27 contains guidance as to 'Exceptional Funding'.
"27.1 General
1. Exceptional funding covers two closely related types of application;
(i) applications for funding individual excluded cases under section 6(8)(b) of the Access to Justice Act 1999;
(ii) applications to cover representation in inquest proceedings pursuant to the Lord Chancellor's direction on inquest funding.
2. Once it has been determined that an application relates to services that are excluded by Schedule 2 of the Access to Justice Act 1999, and that are not able to be funded within the Lord Chancellor's directions on scope, the only way that funding may be provided is by way of exceptional funding under section 6(8)(b). In such cases the Commission itself cannot grant legal aid, it is only able to recommend a grant of funding to the Lord Chancellor. The final decision to fund an individual excluded case rests with the Lord Chancellor. However, the Act requires the Commission to recommend funding before he is able to grant it under this provision. Therefore all applications for funding under section 6(8)(b) must be made to the Commission in the first instance…
3. The Lord Chancellor's guidance on funding individual cases under this provision is set out at 27.2 below… this guidance is taken into account by the Commission in deciding whether funding should be requested from the Lord Chancellor under section 6(8)(b)…"
"6. The then Lord Chancellor issued a Direction with effect from 1 November 2001 bringing representation at certain inquests within the normal scope of CLS funding… the following guidance should be taken into account by the Commission both when considering applications which fall within that Direction and when considering applications relating to other inquests under the section 6(8)(b) procedure.
7. …
8. Before approving an application I would expect the Commission to be satisfied that either:
There is a significant wider public interest, as defined by the funding code guidance, in the applicant being legally represented at the Inquest; or
Funded representation for the family is likely to be necessary to enable the coroner to carry out an effective investigation into the death as required by Article 2…
9. For most Inquests where the Article 2 obligation arises, the coroner will be able to carry out an effective investigation into the death, without the need for advocacy.
Only exceptional cases require the public funding of advocacy in order to meet the Article 2 obligation. In considering whether funded representation may be necessary to comply with the obligation, all the circumstances of the case must be taken into account, including:
The nature and seriousness of any allegations which are likely to be raised at the Inquest, including in particular any allegations against public authorities or other agents of the state;
Whether other forms of investigation have taken place, or are likely to take place, and where the family have [been] or will be involved in such investigation;
Whether the family may be able to participate effectively in the Inquest without funded legal representation. This will depend on the nature of the issues raised and the particular circumstances of the family. In most cases, a family should be able to participate effectively without the need for advocacy on their behalf. Legal Help can be used to prepare a family for the inquest; to prepare submissions to the coroner setting out the family's concerns and any particular questions they may wish the coroner to raise with witnesses.
10. The views of the coroner, where given, are material though not determinative. There is, however, no expectation that the coroner's views should be sought before making an application, or that the coroner will wish to express a view.
11. In general applicants must also satisfy the eligibility limits for Legal Representation as set out in the Regulations. However, with effect from 1 December 2003 I have the discretion to waive financial eligibility limits relating to representation at an Inquest where the Commission request me to do so… I will consider such a waiver in relation to Inquests that satisfy the guidance set out above if, in all the circumstances, it would not be reasonable to expect the family to bear the full costs of representation at the Inquest. Whether this is reasonable will depend in particular on the history of the case and the nature of the allegations to be raised, the applicant's assessed disposable income and capital, and the financial resources of the family and the estimated cost of providing representation."
"1. Representation at inquests has traditionally been outside the scope of legal aid. However, the Lord Chancellor has issued a Direction bringing a limited range of inquests within the scope of CLS funding.
The full text of the Direction is as follows
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3. The Lord Chancellor authorises the Commission to fund advocacy services on behalf of the immediate family of the deceased at an inquest concerning a death occurring in police or prison custody or during the course of police arrest, search, pursuit or shooting.
Such services may be funded where the Commission is satisfied that funded representation is necessary to assist the coroner to investigate the case effectively and establish the facts. The Commission should have regard to my guidance on funding individual cases under section (6(8)(b) of the Act when considering cases under this Direction."
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6. The same criteria are applied to in-scope as to out-of-scope inquests, although custody inquests are in practice the category most likely to qualify for funding. As the guidance at 27.2 above makes clear, there are two grounds for providing funding:
(a) cases of significant wider public interest; or
(b) cases where funding for the family of the deceased is likely to be necessary to enable the coroner to carry out an effective investigation into the death, as required by Article 2 of the ECHR
SIGNIFICANT WIDER PUBLIC INTEREST IN INQUEST CASES
7. As for all cases, an inquest case is only accepted as having significant wider public interest under the Code where the proceedings have the potential to produce real benefits for members of the public other than the client and their family.
8. However, the Guidance requires in relation to inquests that there must be "significant wider public interest in the client being represented at the inquest" for funding to be made available. This means that an applicant must be able to demonstrate that representation is necessary to obtain any benefits that may arise, not just that the inquest itself may provide benefits."
"Significant Wider Public Interest
1. Wider public interest as defined only has an impact in the Code if it is "significant". A common sense approach must be adopted to decide whether a case has a significant wider public interest. Much will depend on the nature of the benefits alleged and how directly other persons may benefit from the case in question. The more intangible and indirect the benefits are, the harder it will be to show that there is a significant wider public interest. Speculative and far-fetched public interest, or the mere possibility that a case outcome could conceivably benefit other members of the public would not qualify.
2. The Code sets no limit or minimum of a number of people who must benefit before significant wider public interest can be established. This will vary greatly according to the nature of the benefits… Public interest carries with it a sense that large numbers of people must be affected. As a general guideline, even where the benefits to others are substantial, it would be unusual to regard the case as having a significant wider public interest if fewer than 100 people would benefit from its outcome."
H M Coroner for Berkshire (the coroner) set the date of 15 August for a preliminary hearing into the Ufton Nervet Train Crash, and fixed the full hearing for 12 days commencing the 17 October 2005. On 2 August he wrote to the Next Friend's solicitor, Ms Louise Christian of Messrs Christian Khan, saying –
"I confirm that you act for David Main, the partner and father of two of the victims who died as passengers on this train.
In those circumstances, I consider that funded representation of your client is necessary to assist me in investigating the circumstances of the train crash effectively and to establish the facts of the seven deaths that occurred."
"2. Background information on level crossing safety generally -- with specific reference to AHB (automatic half barrier) crossings.
4. The current position/progress and the practical possibility of obstacle detection on level crossings.
7. The issue of window glass in railway carriages; ejection of passengers through windows in the course of a derailment, recommendations and changes in current standards of window glass and how these can be improved to reduce the risk of passenger fatalities.
8. Conclusions over the cause of the Ufton Nervet train derailment and lessons that can be learned."
"Application for Exceptional Funding in an Inquest matter pursuant to s6(8)(b) Access to Justice Act 1999"
Inquest into deaths of Anjanette Rossi and Louella Main – Ufton Nevert Train Crash
Application by David Main
Timing
Very Urgent. 12 day inquest due to commence on 17th October 2005 at Windsor.
Summary Recommendation
To provide a grant of funding in the sum of £13,824.46
Background
Mr Main's partner and his daughter were killed in the train crash at Ufton Nevert when they were ejected through the carriage windows, which were not laminated. All 5 fatalities in this crash appear to have been caused this way. This has been a cause of death in other rail crashes.
Financial eligibility
The applicant does not qualify for funding. He has been doubly bereaved and is left with a young son to bring up by himself. His disposable income is £35,000 for our purposes. His outgoings exceed his income (has been on sick leave since accident and may lose his job). I recommend that discretion is exercised in his favour.
Eligibility of other family members
N/A
Representation of other parties
Likely that other parties will be represented
Length of inquest
12 days from 17th October 2005
Is there a significant wider public interest in the applicant being represented?
Yes. Rail safety issues including the fitment of laminated windows to prevent passenger ejection during accident, which caused all deaths according to Health and Safety Report.
Will funded representation assist the coroner in investigating the death and establishing the facts?
Yes. Solicitor has been involved in several rail crash investigations and Coroner has written saying representation will assist him.
Are the Coroner's views known about the public funding issues?
Yes, see above.
Is Article 2 of ECHR engaged?
Possibly. The crash was caused by the driver of a car parking on a crossing. The victims appear to have died as a result of being ejected from the carriages following the impact. Those who were not ejected survived. It is possible laminated windows could have prevented the passengers being thrown out of the carriage. The latter is a rail safety issue and the rail authorities will have been aware of the issue from previous crashes."
"Whilst the Minister accepts that the safety issues are important, you have provided no evidence to show that advocacy on behalf of Mr Main will contribute to a resolution of these issues in such a way as to benefit others; the test is a SWPI in the client being represented. You stated that the rail authorities are apparently aware of the issue of laminated glass from previous crashes. The Health and Safety Executive, the Police, and the Rail and Safety Standards Board, have all been involved. The coroner will have the power to make a recommendation to the appropriate authorities should he choose to do so. You have not provided evidence to show what significant wider public interest would be served by your client being represented that is not provided by the other investigations. Therefore the Minister was not persuaded that this case meets the SWPI criterion."
The letter continued –
"As you know, if there is no significant wider public interest in the applicant being represented before the coroner, it must be shown that, without funding for advocacy for a member of the deceased's immediate family, the coroner is likely to be unable to carry out an effective investigation into the deaths and establish the facts. The Minister was not persuaded that this was so in this instance.
This second criterion for exceptional funding at an inquest is intended to ensure that, in all cases where publicly funded advocacy at an inquest is a procedural requirement of Article 2 of ECHR (the right to life), it will be made available. In this case, whilst Article 2 may or may not be engaged, the Minister did not consider that the funding of advocacy services is necessary for the coroner to investigate the facts.
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The Minister's view is that, even if Article 2 is engaged, the coroner will be able to carry out an investigation into the deaths without legal representation for Mr Main. There is no evidence of any particular complexity that would warrant advocacy in this case. If the state has any obligations under Article 2 these will be discharged by the inquest itself, as well as the health and safety and police investigations. You have provided no evidence to suggest that these investigations, taken with the inquest itself, will fail to discharge any Article 2(1) obligation that may be incumbent on the state in this instance.
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Nonetheless, the Minister took the view that some form of assistance should be made available to David Main, to help him prepare for the inquest. This is why she has agreed to waive the eligibility limits for Legal Help in this instance."
The application for exceptional funding was made on two alternative bases –
i. that there was a significant wider public interest in David Main being represented at the inquest.
ii. that the funding of representation for the family was likely to be necessary to enable the coroner to carry out an effective investigation into the deaths as required by Article 2.
a. whether the Minister was entitled to reject the recommendation made by the LSC based upon its conclusion that the application satisfied the SWPI criterion, and to substitute her conclusion that the criterion was not satisfied, and
b. whether the Minister acted perversely in rejecting the recommendation by the LSC (the rationality issue).
As to the first question to which the SWPI issue gives rise, it was submitted on behalf of the claimant that the Minister erred in approaching her decision on the basis that she was entitled to set aside the conclusion of the LSC that David Main's application for exceptional funding for representation at the inquest met the SWPI criteria, and to substitute a contrary view. Mr Fordham QC, who appeared for the claimant, argued that the LSC is an independent authority, entrusted with the application of the code, and that its conclusion concerned a code criterion. He submitted that in those circumstances the Minister was not entitled to 'second-guess' the LSC's conclusion. He sought to derive support for that proposition from two decisions of the Court of Appeal, SSHD v Hulme [2003] EWCA Civ 1611, and SSHD v Danaie [1998] Imm AR 84, and from a decision of Henry J sitting in the Divisional Court, R v Avon County Council, ex p M [1994] 2 FCR 259.
" Detailed provisions
irrespective of the spouse's length of service or type of engagement (ie pensionable or otherwise), where an officer or airman dies from causes accepted by the Department of Social Security as attributable to or aggravated by service, his eligible survivors may be awarded an attributable family pension at the discretion of the Defence Council as follows…"
"In my view, the natural and ordinary meaning of the language used in paragraph 3090 (1) is that the DSS would determine the issue whether the death was attributed to service and that it would neither be necessary nor permissible for a panel to repeat the exercise. The panel would exercise its discretion under the AFPS on that footing"
"1. The case was to be distinguished from Alakesan and Elhasoglu: in those cases the decision not to grant exceptional leave depended on the assessment by the Secretary of State of the general circumstances obtaining in the individual's home country. On that matter of the Secretary of State might well be better informed than the adjudicator: in the instant case the decision depended on the disagreement of the Secretary of State with the adjudicator's assessment of the story of the individual appellant.
2. The Secretary of State would not be entitled to base his decision on such a disagreement unless the adjudicator's factual conclusion was demonstrably flawed or fresh material had subsequently become available to the Secretary of State as could realistically have affected the adjudicator's findings, or the adjudicator had decided the appeal purely on the documents or his findings of fact owed nothing whatever to any assessment of the witnesses."
"I agree with Simon Brown LJ's conclusion and the reasons for it.
His judgment demonstrates the essential independence of the special adjudicator within this statutory scheme governing applications for asylum without undermining the ultimate responsibility of the Secretary of State for deciding whether to grant an asylum seeker exceptional leave to remain. The desirable objective of an independent scrutiny of decisions in this field would be negated if the Secretary of State were entitled to act merely on his own assertions or reassertions about relevant facts contrary to express findings made at an oral hearing by a special adjudicator who had seen and heard the relevant witnesses. That would approach uncomfortably close to decision making by executive or administrative diktat. If therefore the Secretary of State is to set aside or ignore a finding of fact on a crucial issue which has been considered and evaluated at an oral hearing by the special adjudicator he should explain why he has done so, and should not do so unless the relevant factual conclusion could itself be impugned on Wednesbury principles, or has been reconsidered in the light of further evidence, or has a limited or negligible significance to the ultimate decision for which he is responsible."
"The local authority, acting through their social services committee could not overrule the decision of the review panel without a substantial reason and without having given the panel's recommendation the weight it required. It was a decision taken by body entrusted with the basic fact-finding exercise under the complaints procedure. It was arrived at after a convincing examination of the evidence, particularly expert evidence. The evidence had, as to the practicalities, been largely one-way. The panel had directed themselves properly in law and had arrived at a decision in line with the strength of the evidence before them. They have given clear reasons and they had raised the crucial factual question with the parties before arriving at their conclusion. The strength, coherence and apparent persuasiveness of that decision had to be addressed head-on if it were to be set aside and not followed. Not to face them was either unintentional perversity on their part or showed a wrong application of the legal standing of that decision. Anybody required at law to give reasons for reconsidering and changing such a decision must have good reasons for doing so and show that they had given the decision sufficient weight."
The second question to which the SWPI issue gives rise, is whether the Minister acted perversely in rejecting the recommendation made by the LSC, the rationality issue.
"Before approving an application I would expect the Commission to be satisfied that... there is a significant wider public interest, as defined by the funding code guidance, in the applicant being legally represented at the inquest."
"However, as I say, the test is how representation of your client would bring benefits to the public at large. To establish this, you would need to demonstrate that, for example, any health or safety issues that arise will only do so due to the representation of your client, or that such issues have not been raised before in cases of this nature. Given the involvement of the Health and Safety Executive, the police and the rail safety standards board it is not clear that either of these features apply."
By paragraph 6 of the Lord Chancellor's Direction of 1 November 2001, funding out-of-scope cases may be provided in:
"(b) cases where funding for the family of the deceased is likely to be necessary to enable the coroner to carry out an effective investigation into the death as required by Article 2 of the ECHR."
"In this case, whilst Article 2 may or may not be engaged, the Minister did not consider that funding of advocacy services is necessary for the coroner to investigate the facts."
The letter continued:
"The Minister's view is that, even if Article 2 is engaged, the coroner will be able to carry out an investigation into the deaths without legal representation for Mr Main. There is no evidence of any particular complexity that would warrant advocacy in this case. If the State has any obligations under Article 2 these will be discharged by the inquest itself as well as the health and safety and Police investigations. You have provided no evidence to suggest that these investigations, taken with the inquest itself, will fail to discharge any Article 2(1) obligation that may be incumbent on the State in this instance."
"(4) the obligation to ensure that there is some form of effective official investigation when individuals have been killed as a result of the use of force is not confined to cases where it is apparent that the killing was caused by an agent of the state; Salman, para. 105.
(5) the essential purpose of the investigation was defined by the court in Jordan para. 105:
"To secure the effective implementation of the domestic laws which protect the right to life and, in those cases involving state agents or bodies, to ensure their accountability for deaths occurring under their responsibility. What form of investigation will achieve those purposes may vary in different circumstances. However, whatever mode is employed, the authorities must act of their own motion, once the matter has come to their attention. They cannot leave it to the initiative of the next of kin either to lodge a formal complaint or to take responsibility for the conduct of any investigative procedures."
(6) The investigation must be effective in the sense that (Jordan, para. 107)
"it is capable of leading to a determination of whether the force was used in such cases was or was not justified in the circumstances … and to the identification and punishment of those responsible … this is not an obligation of result, but of means."
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(8) While public scrutiny of police investigations cannot be regarded as an automatic requirement under Article 2 (Jordan, para. 121), there must (Jordan, para. 109) "be a sufficient element of public scrutiny of the investigation or its results to secure accountability in practice as well as in theory. The degree of public scrutiny required may well vary from case to case."
(9) "in all cases", as the court stipulated in Jordan, 109:
"the next of kin of the victim must be involved in the procedure to the extent necessary to safeguard his or her legitimate interest."
"The purposes of such an investigation are clear: to ensure so far as possible that the full facts are bought to light; that culpable and discreditable conduct is exposed and brought to public notice; that suspicion of deliberate wrong doing (if unjustified) is allayed; that dangerous practices and procedures are rectified; and that those who have lost their relatives may at least have the satisfaction of knowing that lessons learned from his death may save the lives of others."
"The procedural obligation introduced by Article 2 has three interlocking aims, to minimise the risk of future like deaths; to give the beginnings of justice to the bereaved; and to assuage the anxieties of the public. (4) What is required by way of an investigation cannot be reduced to a catechism of rules; a flexible approach is needed, responsive to the dictates of the facts, case by case."
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Miss Patel, you appear for the claimant?
MISS PATEL: My Lord, I make an application for costs.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Yes. The orders that follow my judgment are first that the claim for judicial review be allowed and that the defendant's decision of 11 October 2005 be quashed. As to costs, Miss Lieven?
MISS LIEVEN: My Lord, I do not resist paying the claimant's costs. I do have my own application, but I will deal with that in a moment.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Very well. The defendant will pay the claimant's costs and you also need a public funding assessment.
MISS PATEL: Yes, my Lord.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Yes, Miss Lieven?
MISS LIEVEN: My Lord, I do ask for leave to appeal in this matter, both on grounds of reasonable likelihood of success and wider importance.
My Lord, I will put the points briefly because your Lordship is very familiar with the case. Clearly the case falls into two parts: the Wednesbury irrationality challenge and the Article 2 issue. But as your Lordship found, the two are closely interlinked. So on Article 2 it is my submission that your Lordship's judgment is likely to have very wide implications for LSC funding on coroners' inquests because your Lordship has very widely interpreted the words in Amin about ensuring effective accountability for failures in a context which, as your Lordship is aware, is very far from that of Amin, so effectively it is extending those words into a new sphere. Now, whether or not that is right or wrong, in my submission that issue alone is of wider importance which the Court of Appeal should consider.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Yes.
MISS LIEVEN: And the implications alone justify leave to appeal. But equally, my Lord -- and obviously this is always very tricky at this stage -- but equally, in my submission, it is arguable that your Lordship's interpretation is wrong -- I am obviously not going to put it higher than that today -- precisely because your Lordship has extended Amin into that broader context than has been found anywhere else, and in my submission your Lordship has done that where the previous approach of Richards J in Challender and the Court of Appeal in Scholes(?), albeit again in different contexts, has been to narrow the scope of Article 2. So in my submission it is clearly arguable that a different decision could have been reached on the law, quite apart from the wider importance.
Now, my Lord, on Wednesbury irrationality, as your Lordship's own judgment makes clear, the two issues are closely linked, and on your Lordship's analysis it is not possible to argue one without the other. So in my submission this is plainly not a case where permission should be given on one limb and not the other. Your Lordship's judgment, as I read it, turns on the analysis in paragraph 37 that there is no identity of interest between the travelling public and the other parties who have investigated -- either investigated or will take part in the inquest. My Lord, I would certainly seek to argue in the Court of Appeal that that is not true of the RSSB or the HSE, and in my submission that again -- that single issue -- is of such wider importance as plainly to be a matter for the Court of Appeal because, my Lord, in my submission that goes well beyond anything to do with rail safety and suggests that a regulatory body may have a different interest to that of the wider public -- the safety of the wider public. Now, my Lord, that in my submission is a controversial position and in my submission plainly one that the Court of Appeal should consider.
Equally, my Lord, I would submit to the Court of Appeal that in respect of that issue of the public interest, your Lordship has not given sufficient weight to the inquisitorial role of the coroner. I appreciate that your Lordship obviously thinks that you have, but in my submission it is plainly arguable the other way.
Finally, my Lord, on the irrationality challenge, I would submit to the Court of Appeal that your Lordship has not given sufficient importance to the word "significant" in the test of significant wider public interest, and although we have always conceded some public interest, significance is a matter for the decision-maker. So, my Lord, on all those grounds I would submit strongly in this case that both of the tests for permission to appeal to the Court of Appeal are met.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Yes. Thank you, Miss Lieven.
MISS PATEL: My Lord, can I check that you have had the note from Mr Fordham in this matter?
MR JUSTICE OWEN: I have.
MISS PATEL: The claimant resists the application for permission to appeal on the grounds set out in that note. To add to that note that you have before you, my Lord, we say that you have come to very clear conclusions in this case on the two grounds on which we have succeeded.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: You say the decision was fact specific on both limbs.
MISS PATEL: Indeed, my Lord. It was fact specific on the two grounds. Further, we would say it would be a disproportionate use of public money to appeal this matter. The funds which are disputed I am instructed come to some £13,000. I am also instructed that it has cost already over four times that much to debate the matter this far. To continue to debate the matter before the Court of Appeal would mean a waste of significant public money over sums which are quite considerably less than are in issue before us.
Further, my Lord, there is the matter of delay. The event in question took place in October 2004. The inquest, it was felt, could be dealt with swiftly and could be dealt with within a year of that date. It is now some three years on. The inquest in this matter has been delayed considerably and upon appeal would be --
MR JUSTICE OWEN: It is clearly highly desirable that this inquest should be dealt with as quickly as possible.
MISS PATEL: Indeed, my Lord.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Thank you very much, Miss Patel.
MISS LIEVEN: Can I just say one thing?
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Yes.
MISS LIEVEN: If we do appeal, whether with permission from your Lordship or permission from the Court of Appeal, we would be seeking expedition because we are very mindful of the delay issue.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Thank you. You will have to seek that expedition from the Court of Appeal, Miss Lieven. I am not going to give permission. Thank you very much.
MISS LIEVEN: My Lord, in the light of the coming holiday, can I ask for the time to be extended to 14 days for an application for permission?
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Miss Patel, any objection to that?
MISS PATEL: No, my Lord.
MR JUSTICE OWEN: Yes, very well. I will extend time to 14 days.
MISS LIEVEN: I am grateful.