QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
(THE ADMINISTRATIVE COURT)
The Strand London WC2 |
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B e f o r e :
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LONDON BOROUGH OF CROYDON | ||
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WILLIAM BURDON |
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Smith Bernal Reporting Limited
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MR P NOBLE (instructed by WRIGHT SON & PEPPER, LONDON WC1R 5JF) appeared on behalf of the Defendant.
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"(a) trading by a person acting as a pedlar under the authority of a Pedlar's Certificate granted under the Pedlars Act 1871..."
"The term "pedlar" means any hawker, pedlar, petty chapman, tinker, caster of metals, mender of chairs, or other person who, without any horse or other beast bearing or drawing burden, travels and trades on foot and goes from town to town or to other men's houses, carrying to sell or exposing for sale any goods, wares, or merchandise, or procuring orders for goods, wares, or merchandise immediately to be delivered, or selling or offering for sale his skill in handicraft."
"(a) The Respondent was at all material times the holder of a pedlar's certificate.
(b) The Respondent's business took him, at different times to such places as Canterbury, Sittingbourne, Maidstone and Chatham. The Respondent would visit up to three towns per day.
In relation to the 5th May 2001 the Respondent had visited Orpington in the morning, Croydon in the middle part of the day and Bromley in the late afternoon.
(c) The Respondent at all material times sold various goods from, what was described in evidence alternatively as "a barrow on wheels" or "a stand" or "a trolley" which measured 7 feet in length and 7 feet in height. Although it had wheels the Respondent accepted that it could not practicably be moved from street to street, or for any distance considerably in excess of the distances referred to in paragraphs 2(d) and (h) inclusive. The Respondent transported this mobile fixture in a van when travelling between towns.
(d) On 5th May 2001, outside the Whitgift Centre, in North End, Croydon, between 11.16 am and 12.58 pm the Respondent sold balloons. The Respondent moved on four occasions between seven and ten yards.
(e) On 11th May 2001, outside the Whitgift Centre, in North End, Croydon between 1.45 pm and 3.35 pm the Respondent sold balloons. On this occasion the Respondent moved only once by a distance of five yards.
(f) On 19th May 2001, outside the Whitgift Centre, in North End, Croydon, between 11.13 am and 1.30 pm the Respondent sold balloons. On this occasion he moved on three occasions between five and eight yards.
(g) On 8th September 2001, outside the Whitgift Centre, in North End, Croydon, between 1.06 pm and 1.40 pm the Respondent sold scooters and pogo sticks on five occasions. On the three occasions that the Respondent moved his barrow this was for a distance of between five and eight yards.
(h) On 17th November 2001, outside the Whitgift Centre, in North End, Croydon, between 10.25 am and 12.05 pm the Respondent sold scooters and pogo sticks. On the three occasions that the Respondent moved his barrow, this was for a distance of between two and fifteen yards.
(i) North End, Croydon, has not been designated as a licensed street under Section 24 of the 1990 Act. Accordingly a licence is required to trade at all times except where a particular activity is specifically exempted from the provisions of street trading under the 1990 Act."
"Were we [the magistrates] correct to decide on the evidence that the Respondent was at all material times acting as a pedlar under the authority of a pedlar's certificate granted under the Pedlars Act 1871?"
"The popular conception of a pedlar is someone who goes around selling things or services, who sells on the move; he is an itinerant seller.
If the distinction is to be encapsulated in an aphorism, one might say that a pedlar is one who trades as he travels as distinct from one who merely travels to trade."
"I do not mean that he must not stop. As Woolf LJ suggested during the argument, the chair mender stops in order to mend chairs, but the feature which makes him a pedlar is that he goes from place to place, mending a chair here and a chair there; he comes to the owners of the distressed chairs, rather than setting up his pitch and allowing them to come to him."
"'(i) What is the nature of the trading practice of the seller, and (ii) what is the nature of his 'conduct whilst he is stationary for the purpose of the selling?'
To answer those questions one must consider the length of time for which the person concerned is in one place and what he does whilst he is in that place."
"Essentially, a pedlar, acting as such, is travelling when he is not trading. So the length is important of those periods during which he is stationary and not selling but is prepared to do so. The use of a stall or stand may indicate an intention to remain in one place or in a succession of different places for longer than is necessary to effect a particular sale or sales."
MR NOBLE: Your Lordship, I will ask whether this matter could go further because I take issue with one matter and that is when a man stops according to the definition he does not actually have to stop solely for a sale or particular sales but the Act is quite clear he may stop to expose his goods for sale.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: So you are asking for permission to appeal to the Court of Appeal?
MR NOBLE: I am asking to certify a point, that as far as your finding is concerned you found basically because he stopped and all the time he was stopped he was either not effecting a particular sale, or a series of sales, those times when he was stopped, not selling. In fact on my understanding of the definition, if one looks at page 37, one sees that he may stop to expose for sale any goods or procuring for the purpose of procuring orders.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes.
MR NOBLE: So the fact, in my submission, that he was not at every moment effecting his sale or a series of sales does not take him outside that definition. That is at page 37.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes. I am not going to certify a point.
MR NOBLE: Your Lordship, the only question is whether this should be returned to the magistrates' court.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes. I am not sure whether that is going asked for.
MR TAYLOR: It is asked for.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: I am sorry?
MR TAYLOR: I am sorry, my Lord, you are turning your ear to me, I thought you were turning to my learned friend. It was asked for, requested in, I think it is, page 5 of the bundle. That is the order that is requested.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes. Well, it is somewhat unusual in these cases to seek permission, is it not, on the particular case? But if you succeed on the appeal, have I any option but to remit it?
MR NOBLE: You certainly have an option. You do not have to refer it back to the magistrates. You may think there was quite enough, the costs were enormous certainly for my client.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Well, it seems to me that what has motivated Croydon is to establish a principle rather than to conduct a particular case and I just wonder whether the Council taxpayers of Croydon would want it to go any further when they have established the principle.
MR TAYLOR: I only have the officer here today, so I am not really in a position to take instructions, as such.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes.
MR TAYLOR: But it is a matter for your Lordship. Your Lordship's powers, if I just draw those to your attention so you can then exercise----
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes.
MR TAYLOR: It is Volume 2 of the White Book at page 1544.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes.
MR TAYLOR: Naturally, my Lord, I can see the points that are made in starting this all over again. It actually starts, I suppose, on 1543, it just confirms that this is the section for case stated by the magistrates' court or Crown Court.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: This is 28A?
MR TAYLOR: 28a yes, under subparagraph (3) that the High Court "shall" hearing the determination----
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes.
MR TAYLOR: And "shall", so it is mandatory, but two options, "reverse, affirm or amend the determination in respect of which the case has been stated" or "remit the matter to the magistrates' court or the Crown Court with the opinion of the High Court" and may make such other order in relation to the matter, including costs, as it thinks fit.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes, so having upheld the appeal then I have the option of either reversing the determination or remitting it.
MR TAYLOR: Yes, and the difficulty with an acquittal -- that is a somewhat different scenario, is it not? One would have thought, bearing in mind your Lordship's ruling, that further costs in the magistrates' court are likely to be fairly minimal, probably mostly on the London Borough of Croydon rather than on the respondent.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Well, in the Stevenage case that was an appeal by the local authority against an acquittal and there was no remission. It was simply----
MR TAYLOR: The opinion was just given.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes.
MR TAYLOR: I see that. When I saw that I went to the jurisdiction section and I just wanted to see what the powers were and it confused me a little bit because I could not really see -- well, that was in the Stevenage case, in a case where there was a conviction, was there not there, I think?
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: No, I think that there was an acquittal--
MR TAYLOR: Oh, was there? Yes, that must be right.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: --because they said that the absence of the stall meant that he was a pedlar and the Divisional Court disagreed.
MR TAYLOR: That is right. Yes, so it is the same situation as here. Plainly it is a matter for your Lordship. I can only add that I draw your Lordship's attention to that, the fact that that is something that the London Borough of Croydon have asked for.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: No, that is very helpful. Mr Noble, it seems as though I have two options: either to reverse the determination, which then stands as a decision without any further consequences, I think, for your client--
MR TAYLOR: Yes.
MR NOBLE: Yes.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: --or remit it to the magistrates' court with the opinion from which a conviction would follow and the consequences.
MR NOBLE: Well.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Is that----
MR NOBLE: That is absolutely correct, so you do not have to send it back.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE WILKIE: Yes. Well, I am not minded to expose Mr Burden to a conviction having ruled against him and established a principle. So I will limit myself to reversing the determination. Yes, thank you.