(Sitting in Nottingham)
B e f o r e :
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C (A Child) |
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Ms Naomi Hobbs (instructed by Anthony Collins) for the Child
Ms Jaqueline Julyan S.C. (instructed by Birmingham City Council) for the Local Authority
The Father, Maternal Grandmother and Maternal Step-Grandfather appeared in person
Hearing date: 20 September 2019
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His Honour Judge Mark Rogers:
"The appeal court will allow an appeal where the decision of the lower court was-
(a) Wrong; or
(b) Unjust because of a serious procedural or other irregularity in proceedings in the lower court."
"No, there are two things going on here and this is what has, forgive me, with the greatest respect, seems to have, confused the front bench completely. There are two things going on here. One is the actual plan for N and that is to return home. And there were several attempts to go behind that plan which I have fairly robustly drawn an end to on the basis that you cannot go behind that plan. There are three ways of looking at it. The second is the reality and, as I said to everybody, in particular the grandparents, they may be absolutely right that N never comes home. But because we have the plan for him nobody can say that with any certainty."
"No. No. No. Oh my God, I am sorry. I am sorry. I am really sorry. I am going to try one more time and then we are just going to carry on with the hearing. I do not know how many ways in which to say this. I cannot interfere with N's plan."
"Given that N's plan is to be within their household, there are therefore already three children in their care. The fact that N is not physically present does not detract from the fact that this is his home with a plan for him to return to his home. Were M now to be placed in the care of the GPs, then as and when it comes to the time for N to return home he would not be able to do so. If M were to be placed with the GPs, then in effect N's care plan has been thwarted and the decision has been made for him."
I accept that the Judge grounds that passage in the dilemma facing the grandparents who might be faced with an impossible choice and she undoubtedly feels compassion for their plight. Nevertheless, it is clear that she felt the potential unfairness for N was a key factor. I am driven to the clear conclusion that the passage quoted when taken together with the entirety of the evidence reinforces the correctness of Mr Bainham's submissions.
"I think, madam, she also found that there was a lot of interruption of witnesses, a lot of interruption of the advocates. She found that difficult to deal with and I regret to say that she also told me that she thought it was unprofessional that there were certain outbursts from the judge which she found unprofessional."
"1. I would like to recognise and give thanks for the care and consideration we received from Judge Mian whilst dealing with us personally throughout the week. However, we found the rest of the hearing highly distressing.
3. I wish to object to the constant barrage of interruptions aimed at professional witnesses and barristers questioning them………This in my mind brings into question the impartiality of the proceedings.
4. The way the Children's Guardian was questioned by the Judge for most of the day was in my view very wrong and particularly harrowing for both her and us. This seems particularly unprofessional."