SITTING AT BIRMINGHAM
IN THE MATTER OF THE CHILDREN ACT 1989
AND IN THE MATTER OF: C (A CHILD)
Priory Courts Birmingham B4 6DS |
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B e f o r e :
(sitting throughout in public)
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Re: C (A child) | ||
(Refusal to make interim care order) |
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Suite 204, Kingfisher Business Centre, Burnley Road, Rawtenstall, Lancashire BB4 8ES
DX: 26258 Rawtenstall – Telephone: 0845 604 5642 – Fax: 01706 870838
Counsel for the mother: Mr Pearce
Counsel for the child: Mr Fiddy
Hearing date: 26th January 2016
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THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE HOLMAN:
THE JUDGE: I want the mother now to go into the witness box. I wish her again either to swear an oath or affirm. That is entirely her choice.
Q. So, you are [name], the mother of [name].
A. I am.
Q. All right. Do you undertake to me, that is, promise me, the court - this is not the local authority now, it is promising the court - first, that not later than noon next Tuesday, 2nd February, you will totally vacate the premises at [address stated].
A. Yes, I will.
Q. Secondly, that once you have vacated, you will not until further order of the court return to [address stated] or enter at all the road which is known as [road name stated].
A. I will.
Q. You promise me that?
A. I promise I will.
Q. Third, do you promise me that until further order of this court you will not in any way contact, communicate with or come into the presence of [the child, named], save for the purpose of supervised contact under arrangements made by the Birmingham City Council?
A. I promise.
Q. Now, do you understand that if you break those promises, in the first place, you will be in contempt of court and could be punished, but secondly and more importantly, you really will have absolutely lost for all time any prospect of [the child] either living within his family or living with you? Do you realise that?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. This is,—
A. Serious.
Q. —to put it bluntly, your last chance. Do you understand that?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. So, if you break this and you are caught, the consequences will be very grave. Do you understand that?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. You give me those promises?
A. I promise.
Q. All right, thank you very much. Will you come up, [the grandmother] please.
MR PEARCE: My lord, I hesitate to rise, but the prescription needs to be collected and the chemist, I am told, will be closing at 7:00 and I am mindful of the traffic.
THE JUDGE: Yes, well, we will be gone within a few minutes.
MR PEARCE: I am grateful.
Q. Are you [name]
A. Yes.
Q. Of [address stated]?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you undertake to me, that is, promise me, the court – this is not the local authority, it is the court – first, that after noon next Tuesday, 2nd February, you will not until further order of the court in any circumstances permit [the mother, named] or [the brother, named] to enter the premises at [address stated] or its garden?
A. Yes.
Q. All right. They are just not allowed into the road at all, let alone into your house. [The mother] has got a week to make arrangements. Second, you will not until further order in any circumstances permit [the child, named] to have any contact or communication with or come into the presence of [the mother, named] or [the brother, named]. Third, you will, once he is returned to your care, care totally for [the child] and ensure that he is kept clean, well fed and appropriately clothed.
A. Yes.
Q. Fourth, you will not permit him to sleep or reside at any other address than [address stated], except with the prior written agreement of the [local authority, named].
A. Yes.
Q. If a situation arises where he wants to go and stay with a friend or something like that, I am not ruling it out, but they have got to agree in writing first, all right. Five, unless he is ill, you will punctually deliver [the child] to and collect him from the nursery – you know where the nursery is, it will be written in—
A. Yes.
Q. —at all sessions which he is due to attend, all right—
A. Yes.
Q. —day in, day out, whenever he is supposed to go. This is a very important safeguard because it means he will be seen all or most weekdays by the nursery, of course—
A. Yes.
Q. —and they will be asked by the [local authority, named] to keep a very close eye on him, of course, so he has got to go, all right.
A. Yes, yes.
Q. Six, you will permit social workers of the [local authority, named] to enter the premises at [address stated] at any time, whether announced or unannounced, and inspect any part of the premises. I anticipate they will make unannounced visits.
A. Yes.
Q. As far as I am concerned, if they have got the manpower or the womanpower, they can do it late at night, very early in the morning, weekends, whenever they like in order to check, all right, and you have got to let them in. Seven, you will not leave [the child] unattended in the house with your husband. That is not intended to be unkind to him, but because he is not entirely well. Eight, you will not permit any person to sleep at the premises at [address stated], except yourself, your husband and [the child] without the prior written agreement of the [local authority, named].
A. Yes.
Q. If you want to have a little friend of his round or something like that, or a relative of yours wants to come and stay, you can ask [the local authority] and I hope they will agree, but you are not to otherwise allow anyone to sleep there. Nine, you will not without the prior written agreement of the [local authority] permit any person to enter the premises at [address stated] who is not either a relative or an established personal friend of yourself or your husband or a person who needs to enter in the course of his profession or trade. So, you can permit your own relatives or an established personal friend of yourself and your husband or a professional person, such as a doctor, or a person who needs to enter in the course of his business or duties, such as a tradesman or meter reader or if you need to get a plumber or anything like that. Do you give me all those promises?
A. Yes.
Q. I want you to understand that I have made a judgment about you. I am reposing trust in you. I think in fact you are lucky, because I think a lot of other judges would not have done, but I have been doing this for a long time and I am broad shouldered and I am prepared to take responsibility for this decision, which they think is too risky, but I am prepared to take responsibility for it. They will be watching you like a hawk. This will be reviewed in four to six weeks anyway to see how things are going, not by me because I will not be here. If in the meantime they discover that there has been any breach of any of that, they will be round here like a shot, that is obvious, and I am afraid you will not be given another chance. So, this is the last chance for you as well as for [the mother]. Do you understand that?
A. Yes.
Q. Well, do not let me down. Thank you very much. You can go back. Who is going to type this up?
MRS BROWN: I will, my lord.
THE JUDGE: All right.
MR FIDDY: My lord, I do hesitate to detain the court for any longer than it absolutely needs to. I did just raise with my friends the form of order that [the child] should be subject to after the interim care order has expired. He ought to be subject to some order. Perhaps in the circumstances it would be a child arrangements order in favour of [the grandmother] until further order because, of course, [the mother], who is the only person with parental responsibility for [the child], will not be in the house.
THE JUDGE: I am not going to go that far, quite frankly. I am not going to say that he is to live with her.
MR FIDDY: Yes.
THE JUDGE: I am just going to say that he is not to be in the interim care of the local authority and it is all on these undertakings. As far as parental responsibility is concerned, by her undertakings [the mother] has effectively yielded parental responsibility to her mother, but no, I would not want to go so far as to make a positive order at the moment.
MR FIDDY: Very well, my lord. Thank you.
THE JUDGE: I do not think that is necessary. Anyway, he is going to be under the supervision of [the local authority, named], of course.
MR FIDDY: Yes.
THE JUDGE: You are going to type this up and set it out into some proper modern care order, very kindly. Here you are. Could you give that to Mrs Brown? Can you submit it, obviously just as soon as possible, but not now until, at best, some time tomorrow.
MRS BROWN: Yes.
THE JUDGE: I will return the documents. We will have to find out administratively tomorrow, or you will have to find out, to whom this is allocated and get dates, one for the CMC, which I was told has to be within about twelve days, and two, for a further hearing, which I intend shall happen to review all this and decide whether or not an interim care order does require to be made. That is not a fallback thing. That is a positive event. So, there will have to be scrutiny in four to six weeks' time of how the mother is getting on and how the grandmother has performed under this, but of course it goes without saying that, if necessary, you can come back at any time for an interim care order if this breaks down.
MRS BROWN: I am grateful, my lord.
THE JUDGE: All right. Does anybody require me to sign a form?
MR FIDDY: Yes please.
MR PEARCE: Yes, my lord, but—
THE JUDGE: Hand it in quickly.
MR PEARCE: —may mother leave? She is very [inaudible]—
THE JUDGE: Yes, she can leave now.
[THE MOTHER]: Thank you.
THE JUDGE: All I am going to do now is sign the form and go. I have had somebody waiting for over an hour for me downstairs. Thank you. All right, those are the forms. Anything else that anybody wishes to raise or say? People seem to be leaving very fast. All right, well, thank you all very much indeed. I am extremely grateful to you all for your help.
MR PEARCE: Thank you, my lord.