ON APPEAL FROM THE CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT
THE RECORDER OF LONDON (HIS HONOUR JUDGE LUCRAFT KC)
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MR JUSTICE GRIFFITHS
RECORDER OF MANCHESTER
HIS HONOUR JUDGE DEAN KC
(Sitting as a Judge of the CACD)
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MR D ATKINSON KC appeared on behalf of the Crown.
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LADY JUSTICE ANDREWS:
"As to culpability, the sentencing judge must, in our view, consider the culpability factors on the basis of what the offender was planning to do... The fact that Security Services were monitoring the activities of the offender and aimed to prevent the commission of the offence does not reduce the culpability of the offender."
He then observed at [52]:
"... the reference to 'risk' focuses on what was intended: that is, the consequences if the plan had succeeded."
"On harm, looking at what you intended, you had intended to become a sniper. As such, that role, if carried out, would have involved multiple deaths. I need to set that against the likelihood that you would in fact have become a sniper. Category 2 for harm includes multiple deaths risked but not very likely to be caused."
He then went on to explain why he put the case into the category that he did. He referred to the fact that the appellant intended to undertake weapons training and that he did so. He said that the fact that the appellant then adopted a role that included the carrying of a gun further supported the categorisation. He found that death was very likely to have been caused but for his change of heart.
"This court will not normally interfere with a finding of dangerousness unless it can be shown that the sentencer has failed to apply the correct relevant principles, or reached a conclusion to which he was not entitled to come on the material before him." [Emphasis added].
Mr Atkinson submitted that here it could not be said that the judge applied the wrong principles or reached a conclusion which he was not entitled to reach.
"Most importantly, I still have no real explanation as to why he returned to the UK when he could have stayed free in other parts of the world. Currently, his risk is so unknown, we have no real idea of what his intentions are now, back in the UK, what skills he has learned and whether he intends to make use of them here. I have concerns about his thinking and mindset and his attitude to violence. In interview, he was very matter of fact in discussing these issues, but he was not particularly forthcoming about anything he witnessed or participated in in any great detail. Until he has been sentenced and fully assessed, the risk to others, in my view, remains high."
The judge then went on to refer to a later part of the same section of the pre-sentence report in which the author said that the appellant had told him (the author) that he no longer believes in violence and the politics and ideas of IS, and that he claimed now to hold more mainstream Muslim views despite his past views. He said that he did not support IS or any other terrorists acts and that he regretted his youthful ideas and, "he told me that he understood what he can be seen to have done was dangerous to society". He presented as articulate, forthcoming and deep thinking in interview and was prepared to discuss many things which the author found positive.