ON APPEAL FROM Inner London Crown Court
His Honour Judge Mervyn Roberts
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B e f o r e :
MR JUSTICE RODERICK EVANS
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HIS HONOUR JUDGE MICHAEL STOKES Q.C.
Sitting as a Judge of the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)
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HERNANDO GAVIRIA |
Appellant |
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THE QUEEN |
Respondent |
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Mr J. Boothby (instructed by the Crown Prosecution Service, London) for the Crown
Hearing dates : 9 July 2010
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Lord Justice Leveson :
"What that ... requires the prosecution to establish is this: first of all, that the defendant is a man of 18 or over. Well, he plainly is, there is no issue about that. That he met or communicated with [L], a child under the age of 16. No issue about that. He did meet and communicate with her. She is under the age of 16: she is, in fact, 12. That he did that on at least two earlier occasions. No issue about that, members of the jury, he did. That having done so he intentionally met and communicated with her ... not reasonably believing that she was aged 16 or over, and, at that time, intended to commit a relevant offence.
Now the intentional meeting and communication refers to the Tuesday. There is no doubt that he did intentionally meet with her. ... Whether the meeting at the school was instigated by him or by her, there was a meeting and it was an intentional meeting and there was communication between them, and that was clearly intentional as well. No issue about that.
At the time he did that, again there is no issue, he did not reasonably believe that she was aged 16 or over. He admits, of course, that he knew perfectly well that she was a child of 12. So what we are looking at in this count and there the issue comes from is whether, when he did that, he intended to commit a relevant offence."
"A person aged 18 or over (A) commits an offence if –
(a) A has met or communicated with another person (B) on at least two occasions and subsequently –
(i) A intentionally meets B,
(ii) A travels with the intention of meeting B in any part of the world or arranges to meet B in any part of the world, or
(iii) B travels with the intention of meeting A in any part of the world,
(b) A intends to do anything to or in respect of B, during or after the meeting mentioned in paragraph (a)(i) to (iii) and in any part of the world, which if done will involve the commission by A of a relevant offence,
(c) B is under 16, and
(d) A does not reasonably believe that B is 16 or over."
"... he intentionally met and communicated with her ... , and, at that time, intended to commit a relevant offence.
Now the intentional meeting and communication refers to the Tuesday. There is no doubt that he did intentionally meet with her. ... Whether the meeting at the school was instigated by him or by her, there was a meeting and it was an intentional meeting and there was communication between them, and that was clearly intentional as well. ...
.. So what we are looking at ... is whether, when he did that, he intended to commit a relevant offence."