ON APPEAL FROM THE COUNTY COURT
SITTING AT LIVERPOOL
Strand London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
LADY JUSTICE ARDEN
LORD JUSTICE McCOMBE
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IN THE MATTER OF P (A CHILD) |
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Miss Bannon appeared for the child instructed by FDR Law.
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"MR SEFTON: Your Honour, we have raised with the Local Authority as well as other family members putting themselves forward. The paternal and maternal grandparents have put --
THE JUDGE: Whereabouts are they?
MR SEFTON: They are based in Poland.
THE JUDGE: Yes. There are certain practical difficulties here.
MR SEFTON: Of course, there are practical difficulties.
THE JUDGE: Because, as in the next case, -- the parallels are remarkable -- without giving you any details, the next family are not from this country, the father has vanished very conveniently and the mother is saying, "He did it. I did not. Let me have my children back" and it might be that they are on the next bus to whether it is Paris, Berlin, Rome, whichever country they are from, where, miraculously, the father will spring up. So England will not wash its hands of children who are here. The applies to this child as well as in the next case. That is one huge difficulty about considering family members who are natives of and residents in Poland. If you do not like it, there is always the Court of Appeal. Good luck."
"MS ROBINSON: Your honour, clearly, a lot of work is going to have to be done in terms of the timetabling of this matter. However, with regards to the extended family members, the Guardian is anxious that there is at least some enquiry made of them because this little girl is Polish and there are going to be significant cultural considerations that have to be borne in mind by this court. I understand that both sets of grandparents are due to visit this country over the course of the next few weeks and the Guardian would like for both sets to at least be spoken to and for some enquiries to be made. I also understand that there was a direction made by you earlier in these proceedings with regards to information from Polish Social Services regarding the father's elder child and that information has, as yet, not been made available. Again, I would ask that that is chased and that that information is available as soon as applicable.
THE JUDGE: Yes.
MS ROBINSON: I do not think there is anything more that I can add at this stage.
THE JUDGE: I am sure what I was saying to Mr Sefton is not lost on you, Ms Robinson, but the Children's Guardian must not think that the panaceatic remedy will be the unimpeachable grandparents from Poland. Poland is one short hop away from Merseyside and I very much doubt that I will be entertaining that as a solution should I come to the conclusion that this injury was non-accidental, that it was perpetrated by one or both of the parents, that the other failed to protect or is lying through his or her teeth and in circumstances whereby it is not safe to reunite the family. If it is not safe in this country, it would not be safe in Poland. So, if anybody has the notion that the solution is rehabilitation to a member of the extended family in Poland, I would not share that sentiment in those circumstances. There we are.
MS ROBINSON: But your honour would not be opposed to the Local Authority making enquiries of the grandparents when they are in this country in terms of --
THE JUDGE: No, but what I am saying is, and I direct my remarks to Ms Williams as I do to you, this is a game of chess, not draughts. Any fool can play draughts and move one step at a time. It takes rather more skill to play chess where you have to think several moves ahead. That is what I am saying. If it sounds like a crude exposition, then I apologise but that is what I have in mind."
I will return to the interpretation of that passage in a short time.
"The local authority has been contacted by the maternal grandparents. It is understood that the maternal grandmother and paternal grandmother will be visiting the UK in August/September this year and the local authority will arrange to meet with them."
"The maternal grandparents have been written to and contacted by e-mail, but have failed to respond."
"If you do not like it, there is always the Court of Appeal. Good luck."
Statements of that sort indicate that he has formed a concluded view and that the only way of revisiting that issue is to go to this court.
"The children's guardian must not think that the panaceatic remedy will be the unimpeachable grandparents from Poland."
"If it is not safe in this country, it would not be safe in Poland."
He then concludes that by saying:
"There we are."
"The judge made it clear to all that rehabilitation of the child to Poland was not an option and this set the backdrop against which all placement options were considered."
"There has been no approach to the local authority by the grandparents putting themselves forward as carers of A in Poland or on their behalf by the parents' solicitors."
"71. The margin of appreciation to be accorded to the competent national authorities will vary in accordance with the nature of the issues and the importance of the interests at stake. Thus, the Court recognises that the authorities enjoy a wide margin of appreciation, in particular when assessing the necessity of taking a child into care. However, a stricter scrutiny is called for in respect of any further limitations, such as restrictions placed by those authorities on parental rights of access, and of any legal safeguards designed to secure an effective protection of the right of parents and children to respect for their family life. Such further limitations entail the danger that the family relations between the parents and a young child would be effectively curtailed (see, amongst other authorities, the Johansen v. Norway judgment of 7 August 1996, Reports 1996-III, p. 1003, § 64)."