ON APPEAL FROM THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE
QUEEN' S BENCH DIVISION
(MR JUSTICE TUGENDHAT)
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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LORD JUSTICE LEVESON
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SARAH THORNTON |
Respondent |
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Mr Justin Rushbrooke (instructed by Messrs Taylor Hampton) appeared on behalf of the Respondent.
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Lord Justice Leveson:
"She [Dr Thornton] also claims that she practices 'reflexive ethnography', which means that her interviewees have the right to read what she says about them and alter it. In journalism, we call that 'copy approval' and disapprove..."
"28. In my judgment the exchange of letters about trial by jury, and the conduct of the hearing before Sir Charles Gray make this a very different case from that of Cook. I accept that in the circumstances of this case an application for an extension of time could have been made under CPR 3.1(2)(a). I see no reason why CPR 3.1(2)(a) should not apply to CPR 26.11. And Mr Price accepted that this is so in the course of his oral submissions.29. I also accept that such an application would have had a fair prospect of success, in so far as I can form a view on the evidence and submissions now before me. But I cannot say how I would have ruled upon it if it had been made and contested, because I have not seen or heard the evidence or submissions that would have been put before the court if such an application had been made.
30. Alternatively, if the point that I took of my own motion in Cook had been taken on 4 February (namely that the mode of trial was by then a matter within the discretion of the court and no longer a right under s.69(1)), I might nevertheless have dispensed with the requirement of an application notice, as I did in fact, and made the order as an exercise of the discretion given to me whether by CPR 3.1(2)(a) or s.69(3).
31. But whatever I would have done, it is not in my judgment open to Mr Price to say that the order of 4 February was made without jurisdiction. It is an order which was apt to carry into effect the purpose the court was seeking to achieve...and was not in that sense a fundamental procedural error. It was also made on the application of Dr Thornton, albeit one that was out of time, and for which an application notice had been dispensed with. It was an order that was within the power of the court to make under CPR 3.1(2)(a) or s.69(3).
32. I accept that it is open to the court at any time to change the mode of trial. ... However, in the interests of justice to the parties, there must be a degree of certainty that directions once given will continue to have effect, as is provided for in the Practice Direction paras 6.1 to 6.4."
Lord Justice Carnwath:
Order: Application for permission to appeal granted; Appeal allowed.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes, I think you will have to have just me I am afraid.
MR PRICE: I am just grateful for your Lordship coming back. I am sorry to trouble your Lordship. Unfortunately an issue has arisen over the meaning of paragraph 21 of the claimant's witness statement, which is at tab 15 page 91 and it's the second sentence.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes. I mean do we have a formal wording for an order?
MR PRICE : Well that form of wording is ....
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Well no, I just want to see what ...
MR PRICE : We have stalled on this. Because ... what my learned friend says is the words "things I said, what are my descriptions of them", does not include where they objected to quotes being attributed to them, so it is drawing a distinction between things that their quotes and things that she said about them. However, that distinction is not a relevant distinction.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Now I want to see what form of wording ... what form of order are you seeking? What I want to see is the wording of the order you are now seeking?
MR PRICE : I would insert after "things I said ..."
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Sorry, no, this is from a witness statement. I am looking for a form of what is an order
MR PRICE : Well, perhaps your Lordship can go to page 60. I have taken it out of my bundle.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Page 60?
MR PRICE : Yes, I am not sure what tab it is but it's the application notice ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : So it's ...
MR PRICE : I think it's tab 12.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : And what do you want
MR PRICE : Well I would ask for an order. If you look in Part A, the second line starts "Order, the claimant to make and serve on the defendant a supplemental list of documents", and we will put in the time, "in the following category" ... and then I would go to the witness statement paragraph 21 to identify that category, and I would ask for documents "evidencing the occasions."
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes.
MR PRICE : ... and just to the end of that sentence.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : "Where interviewees" and so on?
MR PRICE : Yes.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes.
MR PRICE : So "documents evidencing the occasions where interviewees objected to things I said, what are my descriptions of them and sought to persuade me to alter them."
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes.
MR PRICE : "And the issue that has arisen in relation to things I said". And so what the claimant was seeking to do is to draw a distinction between people who objected to attribution of quotes and people who objected to her descriptions of them.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Well, I will ask Mr Rushbrooke to explain that
MR RUSHBROOKE : Well my Lord it is the ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : So what are you prepared to offer? I mean that is what he is asking, what do you want?
MR RUSHBROOKE: We are prepared to offer exactly what 21 says. The problem is with the interpretation of it. I am very surprised by my learned friend's interpretation because the witness statement of the claimant, draws a very clear distinction indeed her disclosure evinces, between the prior process of clearing quotations with her interviewees and then having cleared the quotations she circulates -- this is now the feedback process -- she circulates the chapter or extracts from the chapter to certain of her interviewees who have been mentioned in it. The problem is, what I have always understood to be the case even on the original application notice, was the defendant was not seeking to challenge that there is a distinction between those two processes and indeed we admit that the back and forth between the claimant and her interviewees about quotations, permission to quote them, was a quote approval process -- that has been admitted. It is even in her own witness statement draft. What surprises us, if you just look back to paragraph 17, when one considers what it is that the defendant now is asking the claimant to do at page 88, "my best estimate is that I have several thousand emails evidencing the back and forth between my interviewees and me concerning quotations and feedback", in other words a) quotations and b) feedback. If one then goes on to page 96. "Please find below the quotes that I would like to use, I hope they look good to you. I would be happy to send you the entire chapter when it is ready. I would be interested in your thoughts." Now if the defendant wants the claimant, as we have not understood it to do, to search through all these thousands of emails that include the quote approval process as opposed to the feedback process, which is now at page 98. If your Lordship will just note the last sentence, it is a sample request for feedback ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes
MR RUSHBROOKE : "I would be delighted for feedback about factual problems, clichéd passages and any other infelicities." If my learned friend wants to go back into the quote approval back and forth that will take probably weeks for my client to go through and pick out the objections to what the interviewee says, not what the claimant says, and that is why when one goes back to paragraph 21. I had thought it was perfectly clear to my learned friend that all of 21 is under the rubric of the feedback process and indeed that is what she says. In almost all cases the feedback process was constructive et cetera, I can recall there are occasions when interviewees objected to things I said, what are my descriptions of them, I stress "I said" and not what "they said".
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes, and I mean how many documents are we talking about ?
MR RUSHBROOKE : I understand that there is about four classic ... four examples of interviewees trying to persuade the claimant to as it were change her descriptions of them where the claimant either accepts or rejects those suggestions.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : I mean in order to ... I mean if there is going to be an element of dispute about this we better try and pin down, is there some way you could sort of put in something to clarify precisely what it is you are ...
MR RUSHBROOKE : Well I hoped it was implicit from the entire wording of 21 but ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes.
MR RUSHBROOKE : That there were occasions in the feedback process
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes.
MR RUSHBROOKE : And with that ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : You would say that's implicit...
MR RUSHBROOKE : I would say it's implicit
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : ...in paragraph 1 anyway.
MR RUSHBROOKE : Yes, but if we have to re-argue it -- the entire application on a wider basis, I am afraid my Lord that's ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : ...not going to do that. Right, well.
MR PRICE : May I just say one thing, my Lord, because it is not quite that straightforward. Did you not have a statement of reasons ....
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : A statement of reasons ?
MR PRICE : Reasons why the appeal should be allowed notwithstanding permission to appeal.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Oh yes, this is.
MR PRICE : I mean I did add a paragraph in relation to the disclosure application which is paragraph 8, I think it's 18D ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : I am not sure I do have it. I mean I have certainly seen your statement of reasons. Where would it be in the bundle ... ?
MR PRICE : It's 18 D of the bundle ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : 18D ....
MR PRICE : ...to 2C?
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Oh here we are, sorry I've got it here. Right now what are you looking at?
MR PRICE : At paragraph 8 my Lord. Now this is the only interviewee who I think appears to be giving evidence. We have had witness statements exchanged on Friday and the claimant relies on Mr Gurana (?) as evidence that she doesn't give copy approval. Can I just ask your Lordship to read paragraph 7?
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Yes.
MR PRICE : So, my Lord, that isn't an objection taken to a quote, the attribution of a quote. If one is going to make a distinction between what the interviewee says and what Dr Thornton said about interviewee and the disclosure is only going to go to the second category because that is the only relevant category, we have a situation here where the claimant is relying on a first category, an interviewee who objects to an attribution of the quote as evidence that she does not give copy approval and on my learned friend's construction of paragraph 21 the documents relating to this exchange notwithstanding that this witness is to give evidence would not be disclosable because ...
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Well I think you are widening the debate now. I mean we proceeded with this application on the basis that we would be talking about paragraph 21. Paragraph 21 is clearly dealing with what is called the feedback process and that is what I understand it to be about.
MR PRICE : Perhaps I should raise with the judge paragraph 7 of the witness statement.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Well I hope you do not because I mean this has got to stop somewhere. But anyway, I mean as far as I am concerned, it seems to me that the qualification which Mr Rushbrooke has proposed clarifies what is already I would have thought pretty clear.
MR PRICE : I apologise.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : So the order will be to serve on the defendant a supplemental list of documents in the following category, that is "documents evidencing occasions (in the feedback process) where interviewees objected to things I said or to my description of them and sought to persuade me to alter them". Is that clear?
MR PRICE : Very clear, my Lord.
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : Now I don't know I mean ... in terms of trying to get a transcript of our judgment I mean. It would be obviously useful if you were to have it ...
MR PRICE : Yes, we will make sure the judge has it
LORD JUSTICE CARNWATH : We will expedite it and try and get it as quickly as possible. Thank you.