COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM The County Court at Newcastle-upon-Tyne
His Honour Judge Walton
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B e f o r e :
Vice President of the Court of Appeal, Civil Division
LORD JUSTICE THOMAS
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LORD JUSTICE MOORE-BICK
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Penny and Anr |
Appellant |
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Digital Structures Ltd |
Respondent |
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Michael Taylor (instructed by Hill Dickinson LLP) for the Respondent
Hearing date : 13th January 2009
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Lord Justice Waller :
"63. Looking at the individual trusses it was also not clear to me why at T2/3 Mr Ramsey was not entitled to regard the vertical posts connecting with the inclined trusses as introducing stability via the smaller triangle arrangement as demonstrated by professor Knapton. Mr Oliphant's point here seemed to be that the connection had to be substantial. The idea that a triangle arrangement could be introduced to cure the removal of the horizontal tie did not itself seem to be challenged. However, while Mr Oliphant says he did not think the connection between the vertical posts and inclined trusses substantial it is not something he checked. He did not for instance check whether there was a connection by nails such as he conceded in cross examination would create a sufficient link Since his position is that the structure's inadequacies were visible within five minutes, I do not see how that conclusion could follow, without closer exploration for instance of that connection.
64. I also agree with Professor Knapton that the presence of packing could be taken into account by Mr Ramsey. Mr Ramsey could also properly conclude that the internal walls were load bearing. I also agree that potential load paths could be observed at T1 and T4. At T1 and 4 the floor itself in effect replaced the missing truss. While Mr Oliphant took the view that the outer walls were the principal support for the roof, nothing was done to test that view before the remedial works were carried out. Mr Oliphant himself said he [was] surprised there was not the evidence of eaves spread which he would have expected if the walls were a significant source of support.
65. In the result, while I have made clear there are aspects of Professor Knapton's opinion which are unconvincing, it remains the case that the roof was deriving support from somewhere, and of the two possible scenarios, the outer walls as suggested by Mr Oliphant; the arrangement of internal triangles as suggested by Professor Knapton, I find the latter the more probable. Coupled with the absence of any sign whatsoever that the structure was distressed, it suggests to me that the roof was actually stable in the condition presented to Mr Ramsey. It was safe and not in danger of imminent collapse."
"Q. Right, okay. The vertical is required somehow to [inaudible] 1.2 tons of horizontal force into the horizontal. There is no bolt, is there?
A. I can't see one.
Q. That again it could be glued.
A. If you say so. I don't –
Q. Well, I do not know more than you do, do I.
A. No. No.
Q. It could be wedged.
A. It would be very unlikely if there were a connection that could not transmit the force that goes through it because it would not be there as it is if that were the case, so there must be something allowing it to happen, but, as I say, I never saw it.
Q. I think the evidence of Mr Ramsey was that the – I think he supposed that at best the connection in all of these triangles was nothing more than some nails.
A. It may be nails which would not alarm me because nails are a very common way of connecting structural timber members together.
Q. Well, let us have a look at the –
HHJ WALTON: Do I understand from this evidence then that you accept some method of connection has to be in place for the forces to be transmitted as you are assuming?
A. Yes, that is correct, Your Honour.
Q. It is simply you have not been able to investigate what – you assume that the connection is there because you have not been able to investigate what form it takes?
A. That is correct, Your Honour."
Lord Justice Thomas
Lord Justice Moore-Bick