COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE (FAMILY DIVISION)
Her Honour Judge Pearlman
FD 03 C00824
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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LORD JUSTICE WALL
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W (A CHILD) |
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Melanie Nazareth (instructed by Myria Pieri & Co Solicitors) for the Respondent
Jane DeZonie (instructed by Vahib & Co Solicitors) for 4th Respondent
Hearing date : 11th May 2005
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Lord Justice Wall :
Introduction
The issues in the appeal in outline
The facts
"A violent inebriate. Mother and children kept on the move to try to escape his abuse of them, but to no avail. Philomena was beaten and humiliated. I think that abuse, combined with the legacy of her childhood, has left her with fragile mental health, which was a feature of the girls' adolescence".
The threshold criteria under section 31 of the Children Act 1989
"First, I think it is appropriate that I refer to the threshold criteria. They are clearly set out in the bundle and it was that the children were suffering or were at risk of suffering significant harm attributable to the care being given by the mother not being what it would be reasonable to expect a parent to give; and it is submitted that both children were suffering from an impairment of their health and development such that their emotional development, and in the case of the child, Charlie, his physical development also, were being avoidably impaired at the commencement of the proceedings. The details are that the mother failed to care for the children adequately in that she lacked insight into the children's physical and emotional needs; that she left both boys with her mother in an unplanned manner causing them anxiety, and moreover the maternal grandmother is unable to cope adequately on such a basis with the care of the children given her own fragile health; Charlie lost weight; that both children had been exposed to domestic violence; that the mother had failed to take up the offer of various services made available to her, and it details a nursery placement in respect of CJ, facilities at a family centre, counselling and advice; and that there had been insufficient improvements in the conditions of the mother's family home; and that she failed to keep a significant number of appointments with department staff. That was the threshold criteria."
The evidence before the judge
"(Sabrina's) understanding of CJs emotional needs and her ability to meet these.
(Sabrina's) ability to parent CJ long term and into adulthood.
(Sabrina's) ability to protect and shelter CJ from the turbulent relationships between herself, Samantha, and her mother Philomena, and the effect that these volatile relationships have upon CJ.
Mr Oliver's unemployment. There is no income in the family other than benefits at the moment.
Safety hazard in the rear garden. There is debris piled in the garden which is overgrown and unfenced. Plans are to repair this summer."
The written evidence of Dr. Freedman, Dr. Lucey and Dr. McClintock
"To assess the attachment needs of (CJ) and Charlie in respect of their relationship to each other.
(CJ's) attachment to Ms Sabrina W.
Given Ms Sabrina W's own history, her ability to meet (CJ)'s needs both in terms of attachment and parenting, both now and into the future.
To identify any services or therapeutic input which would be available to Ms Sabrina W and the timescale required for that, if she is in needs of any such support in order to meet (CJ's) need.
To make recommendations with respect to the placement of (CJ) and Charlie whether or not (CJ) remains with (Sabrina) and in respect of contact between them and Jordi.
To identify any services or therapeutic input required by (CJ) and Charlie either now or in the foreseeable future."
"We think that it is important to consider (CJ's) attachment to Sabrina W both from the perspective of (CJ's) ability to form attachments and from the perspective of what Sabrina W is able to offer to him.
Our reading of the Court papers indicates that (CJ) has had a severely disrupted and traumatised early childhood. We do not think that it is necessary for us to detail these events here, as they are well known to the Court. Suffice it to say that (CJ) has suffered a number of sudden separations from his mother and has been exposed to strife and violence between his mother and his stepfather and between his mother and his grandmother. His mother said that she was unable to bond with him during his early infancy. (CJ) suffering this rejection in the earliest days of his life caused him trauma and rendered him less able to cope with the later traumas that we outlined above.
In addition, (CJ) has not known his father. His stepfather Justin was his father figure for several months, and he has now disappeared from (CJ)'s life as well.
We think that the early trauma that (CJ) suffered has left him without an experience of reliable and unconditional maternal love. This has left him with little internal sense of security; instead, he feels that he needs to cling to his carers for survival. We think that this results in (CJ) appearing strongly attached to Sabrina W, but we think that it is an insecure attachment.
At the same time, we think that Sabrina W really has provided a sense of security and love for (CJ). Dr Freedman observed that Sabrina W was attentive to (CJ) and aware of his need for closeness to her."
"We think that Sabrina W has offered attentiveness, security and love to (CJ), as we said above. His situation is improved; he has been able to start attending nursery, despite the difficulties he encountered in the beginning, and he is beginning to make progress, in terms of making friends and beginning to learn.
However, we are concerned about Sabrina W's ability to meet (CJ's) needs over the long term. Given the disruptive early experience that (CJ) has had, as we described above, we think that (CJ) has already suffered in his emotional development. As we said, due to his mother rejecting him in his early infancy, he does not have the inner foundation of security that a child normally has. Mrs Bellman noticed that (CJ) is showing passivity and a sense of resignation. In his play, he appeared to have difficulty in thinking how to clear a path for an engine with which he was playing and how to gain access to rooms in a dolls' house. We think that this indicates that (CJ) has not only suffered deprivation but also that his development has become wayward. His passivity, his sense of anger, and his sense of insecurity may constitute an early form of depression, to which he is likely to be vulnerable given his family history of several generations of depression.
Alongside the healthy developments that (CJ) might be able to make in the context of a caring environment, his emotional difficulties may continue to exert a strong effect on his personality and functioning and may present his carers with difficult behaviour.
We think that (CJ) has special emotional needs. He needs 'higher order parenting'.
We found that Sabrina W is an intelligent and well-intentioned young woman. However, she is also a person who has had a traumatic childhood in her own right. She has not yet begun to come to terms with her early experience; instead, she still prefers not to remember it. In her current life, her partner has a serious cognitive handicap, and we believe that Sabrina W and Warren Oliver lead a restricted social life. Sabrina W does not feel that Social Services have been or are willing to help her. Instead, she believes that they are only interested in amassing evidence to prove her inadequate as a carer for (CJ).
We think that Sabrina W is correct in her belief that Social Services do not regard her as someone who has a good enough capacity to care for (CJ). Alongside this, she does not believe that she needs help; Warren Oliver told Mr Lawrence that they do not need "extra special help", and Sabrina W did not disagree. At the same time, Sabrina W complained that Social Services do not offer her help. Given the history that she now has in her relationship with Social Services, we think it would be difficult for her to accept any help they might offer her.
We think that at present, Sabrina W satisfies (CJ)'s needs for attachment. We think that given her limited personal resources, her having a handicapped partner who depends on her, and her having a young child of her own, Sabrina W is not able to offer (CJ) the parenting that we think he needs in the longer term. We are concerned that if (CJ) were to remain with Sabrina W and her partner, his needs would outstrip their capacities, with serious consequences not only for him, but also for the stability of their young family."
"As we said above, we do not think that Sabrina W is willing to seek or receive therapeutic work. This is in part due to her belief that the best way for her to manage the difficulties in her background is not to think about them. We think that this is an understandable position for Sabrina W, but our concern is whether her attempt to keep these matters out of her mind will stand her in sufficient stead in her later adult life."
"We have mentioned above that we believe that (CJ) is already showing that he has emotional problems that may become further organised into a form of childhood depression. We think that once (CJ) is settled into his permanent home, it would be helpful for him to begin individual psychotherapy with a qualified child psychotherapist. We think that he could benefit from the chance to put his feelings and worries into words and in that way begin to develop a means of thinking about himself, as opposed to feeling stuck, as Mrs Bellman felt he was at times during her interview. "
"1&2 The children's individual needs in terms of emotional and physical support and parenting. (Samantha's) ability to meet those needs both now and in the future.
4,3,6&7 Whether or not (Samantha) does suffer from any inherent psychological or psychiatric difficulties and if so the nature of these.
Given her own reporting of her health difficulties, taking into consideration her medical history, (Samantha's) ability to cope with her own health and psychological difficulties and the impact this has had upon her parenting of CJ and Charlie.
Whether or not (Samantha) will be able to address those difficulties through counselling and if so the type and duration of the counselling that is required. Given the timescale required for counselling, whether any necessary change could be effected in a timescale available to the boys.
5 The impact these have had on her parenting or are likely to have on her future ability to parent.
8&9 Given (Samantha's) history of personal relationships, to examine the nature of (Samantha's) relationship with Justin Danes and to assess her ability to make relationships which are safe for her children. The assessment demonstrates that to pursue the relationship with Justin Danes is not in the best interests of the children, to assess her ability to separate from him emotionally in order to safeguard her children.
10&12 To assess (Samantha's) ability to conduct adult relationships in general, in a stable way, with particular reference to her ability to manage anger and conflictual relationships. The ability for change to be effected in a timescale available to the children.
11 To identify any services or therapeutic input which would be available to her to effect change and the timescale required for that.
13 To assess (Samantha's) ability to work with professionals and supportive agencies and individuals in the short and long term and the impact upon the children of that. "
"15&16 In my view (Samantha) cannot care for CJ and Charlie and it would be in their interest to be cared for elsewhere. I support the concept of keeping the children together and seeking a joint placement. I appreciate this means removal from Aunt Sabrina. In this view I am mindful of the kinship assessment which was detailed and thorough. My experience of aunt Sabrina was that she is a woman who has more fully survived her childhood and adolescence and that her personal maturity is greater. However, I was left with anxiety about the actual quality of care provided to CJ (the pseudo maturity, the level of stimulation) and the priority given to his needs (health, nursery, sibling contact etc). In the end it is my view that caring for CJ and Skye would probably be too much for Aunt Sabrina given the needs of the child as outlined and the level of priority he requires and that she and Warren should be allowed to focus on their own child. I also agree with (the guardian) about the potential risks within the family dynamics."
"I consider that (Sabrina) does not have any mental health difficulties and she does not have a personality disorder. She seems to have escaped the difficulties in life which have been shown by her sister and I do not consider that she needs any form of medical or psychotherapeutic help.
I have been asked to assess her background history and how this has impacted on her. I could find no discernible psychological damage or mental health difficulties. She states that she does not recall her history and I have been asked about the significance of this in terms of her personality and functioning. I think it is probably correct that (Sabrina) does not recall any of these unpleasant events but it is not necessary for her to do so in order for these to have had an effect on her. A Child Psychiatrist would state that children are at their most emotionally vulnerable during this period and the overall atmosphere in which the family lived must have been upsetting for (Sabrina). However that impact has not been severe enough to cause significant behavioural difficulties which would warrant for example the diagnosis of a personality disorder. I was however concerned about the self-harm behaviour at the age of 15 years. The scars on her arms are noteworthy, they were significant wounds requiring stitches and although (Sabrina) does not articulate this clearly, I believe they were a product of growing up in an environment with a troubled sibling. (Sabrina) articulates that her sister Samantha was receiving more attention than her and that this was a cry for attention on her part. I am undecided about how this impacts, if at all, on the current nature of the relationship between (Sabrina) and her sibling.
I have been asked to consider if (Sabrina's) mental health problems would impact on her ability to provide positive parenting for CJ. Even in the Letter of Instruction CJ is described as a "troubled child who will need optimum parenting". Essentially even in the absence of personality difficulties or mental health problems, (Sabrina) may still not be able to provide this optimum care which CJ needs. I was struck by the different ways in which CJ is portrayed by (Sabrina) and in the professional reports. The latter describes CJ as being a troubled child who will need psychotherapy and even as an adult Psychiatrist I realise that this is a measure of the extent of his difficulties."
Mr. Warren Oliver
"Mr. Oliver is not as articulate as (Sabrina). It is clear that she does not have to look after him except in the way that (a) woman living with a man has to look after him, and that his handicap is reading. Mr. Oliver appears as honest and supportive of (Sabrina). He is training for work, has said that he intends to work full time and if that is so he would be a good role model for CJ."
The oral evidence
"One of the things that we would anticipate would happen in the course of therapy would be a kind of re-living of some of his experiences. He may become symptomatic; he may become more clingy and dependent. I am now talking about the things that his carers will notice. His behaviour may become more disturbed. We would not expect that these will be permanent changes in him, but they may be phases that he will go through".
"CJ needs to be looked after by carers who can understand the difficult experiences that he has been through, and part of the way that one does that is by being in touch with the difficulties in one's own life. That is what concerns me about Sabrina's ability to care for CJ in the way that he will need to be cared for over the long term ..
I think it is right to say that Sabrina has given CJ a great deal. We said that in our report, and I am happy to say it again, but I think that what lies ahead for CJ in the rest of his childhood would exceed the capacities of what Sabrina and Warren are able to give him .
I think that to leave CJ in a placement where I feel quite convinced that his carers will not be able to meet his long term needs would be damaging and wrong. I think there is quite a good chance that with enough support, CJ can make the transition first to a bridging placement and then to a permanent placement. I would not be recommending this action to the court if I did not think that CJ could be in great difficulty in his future life if he remains where he is as present".
Q: JUDGE PEARLMAN:
"Just tell me why would it be difficult for him to have psychotherapy living with Sabrina W and Mr Oliver?
A. Your Honour, I think that Sabrina and Warren's ability to recognise the difficulties that CJ has, and the experiences that he would be going through as he goes through his psychotherapy and to provide a robust support to him as he goes through those experiences, will be very limited. I think that particularly the fact that Sabrina W has blocked out her own childhood will make it extremely difficult for her to provide what a child needs in the way of support from a carer whilst going through psychotherapy. In other words, if I put this in a more graphic way, whenever CJ bumps up against issues that potentially resonate with the difficulties that Sabrina has blocked out, it is going to be difficult for her if not impossible to allow him to do the work that he needs to do because it will make her so uncomfortable."
"(Q) The point I am getting at, Dr Freedman, is that as time moves on, the improvements seem to be getting better. Where do you say it is going to stop. Where do you say that the plateau comes that is going to be so damaging for this little boy? (A) I don't think we are talking at this stage about him being more damaged, but rather him not being able to recover adequately from the damage that has already been done to him. I think there is a risk in adolescence that it will begin to tip more into damage being done because I think this boy is going to present challenging behaviours to his carers in adolescence, and I think it will require a great degree of emotional maturity and flexibility for carers not to simply kick him out when he enters his adolescence. So there are two stages I am talking about: one is the rest of his young childhood when I think that what CJ most needs is to have an opportunity to have psychotherapy, to be in a secure home environment and to make as great a degree of recovery as he is able to make will then, I hope, hold him in good enough stead, and hold his carers in good enough stead so that by the time he reaches the challenges of adolescence they may be able to see it through. I think it would be very damaging for this child to be in a setting where he finds himself kicked out in his adolescence, and I think that is a real risk.
(Q) Are you suggesting that Sabrina and her partner would kick this child out? (A) I am suggesting that any carer who does not have the necessary depth of emotional maturity would probably find it impossible to continue to care for the challenging behaviour that this child is prone to showing by adolescence.
(Q) But that presupposes that there is no support package in place. What I want to ask you is this. Why should not psychotherapy begin if, as we now know, both Sabrina W and Warren Oliver recognise and Sabrina W was quite forceful yesterday in saying that she had been persuaded by Dr McClintock who had persuaded her that it was for CJ's benefit. It was that and focusing on the benefit to CJ which has made her shift her position. Why should not that support package which is integral to, begin with CJ remaining in his current placement. (A) What I have already said in my evidence is that I think that CJ will find it, and his therapist will find it, more difficult for him to engage properly in psychotherapy if what he finds at home is a kind of mixed message: a message that on the one hand says, yes, we now know what you need is psychotherapy but at the same time says these issues are no go areas. This family does not think about these issues because this family cannot tolerate these issues. That is the problem that the psychotherapy would find itself up against. It is one thing to say that Sabrina and Warren now agree that they should take this child physically from home to psychotherapy appointments. It is quite another thing to say can they see it through the long haul and offer him the support that he would need to get into these very difficult issues. My advice to the court is that I do not think it is going to work."
"(Q) What we know about Sabrina W, however, is that she has formed a stable relationship with Mr Oliver which has endured six years. There is no suggestion in what they have been through in the last ten months that that is fragile or breaking up. There is no concerns at all about her care of Skye; not on the child protection register; no involvement with Social Services; no concerns from any outside agency. I am afraid I am not quite understanding why that should not be seen as something so positive that she should be entrusted to do what is best for CJ. (A) I think it is about the tenth time today I have said it, but I will say it again, your Honour. This child has quite sophisticated needs of a carer and a carer who has blocked out her childhood is not in a position to meet the needs of this child because he will present to her routinely aspects of her own experience that she does not feel able to face and that is a recipe for disaster."
"JUDGE PEARLMAN: Yes. Tell me this. Have I got it correctly that broadly speaking I have the tenor of your recommendation which is that in your opinion Sabrina W and Warren Oliver cannot in the long term offer CJ the parenting he will need. I have got that right. (A) Yes.
(Q) But then I think you went on and said that you seem to divide his needs into two periods: what you have described as the rest of his young childhood and his period of adolescence. Have I got that right or wrong? (A) Yes, that is right.
(Q) Looking at stage 1, the rest of his young childhood, in your view, do you think that Sabrina W and Warren Oliver can afford CJ good enough parenting in that first period. (A) No, your honour, I don't.
(Q) In what way in particular other than you have said. (A) Your Honour, it is what I have already said about their ability to support him through the treatment that he needs.
(Q) Of course, since you wrote your report and today, Sabrina W and Warren Oliver have read your report. They have grown a little older and they have told me and, of course, it is a matter for me to decide whether they are sincere or whether it is tactical that having considered your report and all the reports, they are now willing to seek and assist CJ to receive therapeutic help. Sabrina W has said that she is willing to consider it for herself. It is implicit from the tenor of your evidence that you do not think that that is enough: the fact that they have read your report and considered it, is enough to give you the reassurance you need. I want to ask you why because they are young people and without being any form of a psychiatrist, one thing I have found is that young people grow older and mature and learn. So my question really is why are either of these two young people so different from the average that you think that they will be and are unable to learn and adapt as they get older to CJ's growing needs as they become available? (A) Your Honour, my difficulty is about Sabrina's quite total warding off of her own childhood experience. I think that is a very worrying feature, and I think that for her to begin to approach it, as I hope she will, regardless of what your decision is. I think she is going to find it extremely difficult. I think she is going to have times when she is very distressed, and I think that it really comes too late for CJ. CJ needs to be getting on with his treatment straightaway rather than being in the position of waiting a few years to see if his aunt is going to make enough progress to be able to help him.
(Q) I understand that, but looking at the reality of what happens when a child goes into care and we know with CJ he will go to foster parents (I suppose he will be there for a minimum of 6-9 months). I think Miss Page gave evidence about the length of time, but I am sure somebody will tell me
MR. HOWLING: Six months.
JUDGE PEARLMAN: Six months. Then, if the Local Authority are lucky and CJ is lucky, they will find what they hope will be his final placement, and if that takes place in the next 12 months, I suppose that any treatment or therapy, call it what you will, will not really start until he is settled in his final placement, so that in any event, is it right to say that what CJ needs to help him cannot happen, cannot begin to happen, for a period probably of at least 12 months. Forget NHS waiting lists and all the rest. I am just assessing the position from the point of view of what is always told to me in these courts. Just help me about that. Am I right or wrong? (A) I think you are both right and wrong, if you will permit me to say that. I think that you are right that time is in certain ways against us. I think you are right that resources are limited, but where I would differ with you is that I do not think that putting CJ into families both on a bridging basis and on a permanent basis where there is more maturity, more willingness to face up to difficulties, is not going to help him in itself. I think it will help him. I think it will help him enormously, and I think that whilst that is not psychotherapy, I think it will be helpful to him. When I put that next to the possibility that Sabrina may engage in her own personal work which is going to take a very long time in which she is going to be up against the difficulties of her mother and her sister in a sense intruding into her life and into her efforts to change, I think that looks like a less secure possibility for CJ's continued growth than an alternative placement does."
"I think the (CJ) that I saw was quite an aloof, unengaged child. It improved later on and when he was tired he did sit beside Aunt Sabrina, and I commented on that in my account of that visit, but I was struck by how unengaged he was for the rest of the time. In terms of attachment, I would say insecure and avoidant."
"I can see where Dr Freedman is coming from and she will say a parent needs a certain psychological maturity, a parent needs a certain capacity to deal with their own histories, their experiences, what has happened to them without blocking out, and so she has a conversation about therapy. I am worried about the parenting capacity of Sabrina to actually connect emotionally with this boy and to be able to work out what is on his mind when he behaves in (a), (b) or (c) ways. So for me the issue is the quality of the parenting, and the subsidiary issue of whether any therapeutic input can help with that, but I didn't hear a lot about that this afternoon."
"(Q) One further question arising out of the issue of therapy. The suggestion is that Sabrina W and Warren Oliver have had a conversion on the road to Damascus and now understand the need for psychotherapy. If they are genuine in that movement, does that in any way impact on the conclusions you have reached? (A) I am always cautious about court room conversions, if that is what it is, and the way that you are saying. Your Honour, that is for you to decide about the sincerity of it. If it is recent, and even if it is sincere, how long will it last? Is the decision that is appropriate really based on new understanding about what that really means: About really facing her history? The damage she has endured? Really facing that? As she starts to look after and parent (CJ) for the rest of his childhood. Does she know what she is saying yes to? "
"The issue here is the quality of Sabrina's to make an emotional link with this boy so that she, when he needs her to decode his emotional state, can do it. So when he needs her to be the mature adult sensible person who explains and helps him understand why he feels confused, angry, aroused, hostile, rejecting, furious, she is the one who will actually be able to help him make sense of those feelings and do something about them. Can she do that? "
"(A) I accept the youth argument. She is very young and she has done her best, and I think there is potential in the rest of her life to mature and grow. I appreciate that argument. I accept that one. I think she has done a good job with him and is committed to him and takes it seriously and responsibly. There are gaps and blips, but overall she has tried very hard. I accept that she has survived a lot herself. But what I cannot accept is that we can say that (CJ) is going to be the one that is the test to see if in fact she can make those changes because the woman I met had little psychological mind. He needs a parent with a psychological mind. This argument about she has done a lot, give her the chance is a test to see whether she can actually make the rest of it, and I do not have the confidence that she can, and I have not heard from others, and I have not heard from Dr Freedman that she thinks that she can.
There has been no updating ---(A) Dr McClintock had conversations with Sabrina. Those same conversations were about trying to understand what people are worried about. It is not about providing a dinner or making a bed, or buying him new pyjamas; it is actually about understanding his emotional state and helping him too, and she has to understand her own first, and she has to have skills for herself which she will need for him."
"Can I suggest to you in fact it was not a court room conversion; it was on the seat of Mr McClintock's advice before he wrote his report where he was very clear about the benefits and the need for psychotherapy that the couple, certainly Ms W, discussed it with Mr Oliver's mother who is a foster carer. It was admittedly a slow process of understanding, but people learn, don't they? (A) The court will have to decide if it is tactical. I think that is a fair way of putting it. It does not seem from Dr McClintock's report that he left that meeting with a sense that there had been some meeting of minds about the need. His report is quite bleak about it. He did not leave that meeting thinking progress had been made, that understanding had been reached between them about the need for it. It may have happened afterwards. I am trying to shift the focus of the debate, because I think the issue is parenting quality and not about who needs the therapy for what. It is actually about the emotional connectiveness that a parent needs to make to a child in order to help them deal with their feelings. A parent has to be able to do that if they are going to reach maturity. It is a hard part of the task, but it is the bit beyond the food and the clothing that is very difficult to achieve, and that is why a lot of parents struggle."
"(A) Are you saying what Dr Freedman said and it is my words you know what is in her report and what she has said because you were here, they have done and are doing a very good job now but they do not have (when I say "they" I mean Sabrina W and Warren Oliver) the capacity to parent him in the future. Do you agree with that last remark of hers: (A) I do not think they have it now. I think they are doing elements of it now as best as they possibly can and as they understand the job, they are doing it.
(Q) You think they do? (A) As they understand it, which is about a safe world with no domestic violence, which is about food, which is about getting him to school, which is about keeping him clean. They are doing that, but that is not what we are talking about; we are talking about an emotional capacity which I do not think they have got now. In a sense, I started out by saying I found this is a difficult case. I think it is very finely balanced, I think it is a very difficult decision, but actually I do not think it is good enough now; I do not think it is just about the future of that domain of emotional care; it is not good enough now. On the other domains, yes, they are good enough."
The judgment
"It states that the foster carers, were experienced foster carers, and that they would help CJ's needs for therapy to be explored during his placement so as to prepare him for his new family. The plan for the moving of CJ is for him to have two meetings with his foster parents, one in the home of his aunt and one in the home of the foster parents without the aunt, and that he be moved no later than 24th February when his care worker leaves the employ of the local authority. That care plan was subjected to detailed cross-examination and criticism in court, and I will refer to it hereafter.
On the other hand, the aunt seeks a residence order, coupled with or without a supervision order or a straight supervision order to the local authority providing that CJ remains with her. That is supported by the mother. The aunt proposed that there should be no contact with the mother or the grandmother until CJ's therapy was concluded. During the hearing it became apparent that the aunt now supported therapeutic work for CJ and would seek it if CJ remained living with her. It is right to say, therefore, that the reports of the three experts, Dr Freedman, Dr Lucey and Dr McClintock, were on the basis that the aunt saw no reason for concern about CJ, or any need for therapeutic work for CJ. It is understandable in those circumstances that none of them have or had interviewed the aunt after she had read and considered their reports. Dr Freedman did her work in October 2004, and Dr Lucey visited and did her work in September 2004."
"Next I heard from Dr Judith Freedman of the Portman Clinic in addition to her report. She stated that the issues for the child were likely to be distressing at times, and CJ's behaviour might become disturbed. The therapy she envisaged was at least once a week for about two years. CJ, she said, was a very damaged child, more damaged than most. She stated there was a lot of evidence to suggest the aunt too had sustained an emotional and traumatic childhood. Dr Freedman found it telling that the aunt remembered none of it, but she said the aunt was as damaged as CJ and the mother are. She, Dr Freedman, did not know what the effect would be on CJ if he was moved. He would find it difficult to be parted from his aunt. The aunt had given CJ a great deal. What he needed from the aunt would exceed what the aunt could give CJ. Moving CJ, she said, would not destroy him. To leave him in this placement where his long term needs cannot be met was not in his interests. Dr Freedman stated that the aunt had done a very good job and CJ had made improvements whilst in the aunt's care. She said that if she had felt that they meaning the aunt and her partner, Mr Oliver and CJ could work together then she would leave CJ there. She described the aunt and Mr Oliver as both being emotionally limited. She said the aunt could not be faulted in what she had offered so far. She had done a remarkable job. She said that because there would be difficulties, it is not right to leave CJ with his aunt. She was concerned to help CJ recover from damage done to him in the past, and she said any carer who did not have the maturity would find it difficult to cope with CJ. She said what the aunt could offer just was not good enough to meet CJ's needs in the years to come, but the aunt and Mr Oliver had given CJ something to build on. Dr Freedman expressed her concern at the aunt not remembering her own youth and said if the aunt could not remember then she could not protect CJ. As I said, her visits and interviews were all in October 2004.
The next witness was Dr Claire Lucey, a child and family psychiatrist from the West London Mental Health Trust. In addition to her report she said she did not disagree with Dr Freedman. She said CJ was not depressed. She would describe him as an "aloof and insecurely attached child" when she met him in September 2004. She said she was struck by how unengaged he was. She said any carers had to be able to hypothesise and ask CJ "What's the matter?" and talk to him about his cares and worries. She questioned whether the change of mind of the aunt and Mr Oliver was permanent. CJ, she said, had had a very damaged start and would bring it into future relationships in life ahead of him. Dr Lucey said that if the aunt can do it i.e. therapy and support of CJ for years in therapy it would be good and okay for him to stay with the aunt, but if not then CJ should be moved now. She said if the aunt's place is the right place on offer then leave him there, but if not accept the plan. Her recommendation to me was unequivocal and it was to move CJ now. She agreed that CJ appeared to have moved on and to have improved at school since she had met him.
She said about the aunt that when she met her, the women she met had 'little psychological mind'. She did not think the aunt could assist CJ in the future. She said the whole issue is about the emotional quality of parenting in the future. The aunt and Mr Oliver, she thought, just did not have the emotional capacity. She described that what was best for CJ was, in fact, a very finely balanced decision and not an easy one".
"24. Then he dealt with the question of whether her mental health problems would impact on her ability to provide positive parenting for CJ, because CJ was described as a troubled child who will need optimum parenting. He stated that the aunt may still not be able to provide this optimum care which CJ needs. He was struck by the different way in which CJ was portrayed by the aunt contrasted to the professional reports. He said that it did not bode well for the future of a child who needs, according to the professionals, better than average parenting.
25. He was asked about the aunt's ability to co-operate with professionals and to take advice. He said that, essentially, she had to take on board the totality of the concerns of professionals, and even at that late stage it was 18th January of this year she disagreed with the view that CJ was a particularly troubled child. He went on:
"If she does not completely accept that he has particular needs, I think she will not be able to commit herself to delivering these needs either in terms of attendance at appointments or realising that he will need more than her own child, Skye".
He was asked whether the aunt would require additional support in order to parent CJ, and he said, although he thought that should properly be addressed to a child and adolescent psychiatrist, he did consider it would be required. He goes on:
"I think the starting point for that extra input would need to address the aunt's reluctance to accept the views of professionals that CJ is different from other children and needs extra help. If the extra professional input does not allow her to get past this stage then any further input would be ineffective."
That was Dr McClintock."
" needed a lot of work and support in the form of psychotherapy and counselling and she said that nobody had really explained to her about damaged children and how they were and the long term effects."
"She said she now accepted that CJ needed therapeutic work and said she really accepted it some time after the interview with Dr McClintock in January 2005. She said she did not know she had the right to go back to him. She said CJ should have psychotherapy as soon as possible. He needs to be settled. She discovered the delay in her area for referral to the local CAMHS team. She told me that she was learning as she went along and commented, correctly I think, "as did all parents". She said that the nursery had said that CJ had improved dramatically since he had been with her. She said that she believed that she and Warren Oliver had helped CJ. She did not want more children. She did not accept that five hours of interviews between CJ and Dr Lucey and Dr Freedman was sufficient for them both to come to their conclusion. She said she used to see a lot of her mum but now she found it easier to stay away. The less she saw of Mrs Philomena W, the less she, the aunt, got emotional and so she could put more effort into the two children, Skye and CJ. She said that since September her family had left her and Warren to make their own decisions about Skye and CJ."
"to find out whether, having heard the evidence of Dr Freedman and Dr Lucey, they had changed their minds and whether they thought that what CJ needed was more than they could give. Both said they still wanted him to remain with them and thought they could provide him with what was needed by way of therapeutic support."
"(The guardian) continued that CJ was stable with Sabrina, that CJ had come on emotionally whilst living with his aunt, but would have come on even more if he had been moved, as he recommended to me in October 2004. He did not think that the aunt and Mr Oliver had the ability to cope on an emotional level with CJ. He thought that CJ would cope with two more moves. He said all he could do was to go by the experts. It was the aunt and Mr Oliver's deep level of insight that he queried and how deep it was. He said that in his view there were risks down both routes, but in his opinion the risks of CJ remaining where he was with the aunt were greater than CJ having two more moves, which would happen if I accepted the local authority care plan."
"I think that was wrong, I think these are two young people who I accept have found it perhaps difficult to understand what is required of them. They have learned in so far as the physical and day to day needs of CJ are concerned. They are, I find, genuine in saying that they are committed to helping CJ if they are given the chance in any way possible."
"I have to say that after the evidence and because of the order in which the witnesses were called, I was tempted to adjourn the hearing and request further assessments and reports from Dr Freedman, Lucey and McClintock on the aunt and her capacity to deal with and parent CJ in the future and in the long term because of her late acceptance of the need for CJ to have therapy. Also, had I done that, I would have requested the local authority to find more experienced foster carers. In looking at that possibility, I looked at s. l(2) of the Children Act, which sets out that the court should have regard to the general principle that any delay in determining the question is likely to prejudice the welfare of the child, and in my judgment, if I had put the case back for reports, all that would have achieved would be a delay in the decision making process which would not have been in CJ's interest."
"the aunt's willingness to accept CJ's needs and his need of therapeutic work, and she put the question, "Will it be lasting and can it be converted into action, and willingness to co-operate last?" I have to say that, in my judgment, the answer to that is "yes". I am impressed by Miss DeZonie telling me that the aunt, of her own volition, had ascertained the waiting time for referral to CAMHS.
The next question is, can the aunt keep CJ's needs paramount? Of course, that is an important point with regard to the aunt's closeness to her own family, because she and her sister were subject to a difficult upbringing and the functions of that family are such that CJ needs to be protected from them. That is agreed.
I find, first of all, that the aunt's willingness to accept CJ's needs and therapeutic help are genuine and lasting and she will be able to convert her words into action. She is 21, has had one relationship and there are no concerns about Skye. It is obvious that in the summer of 2004 she let CJ down, but it is quite apparent that, since (the guardian) intervened and since the October hearing, she has kept to her word, put her words into action and CJ has improved immensely. The position I find has changed drastically. I find that she did not have enough explanation of CJ's emotional and therapeutic needs until comparatively shortly before the hearing, and it is to her credit that at this late stage she accepts the need for therapeutic help for CJ probably for many years to come. I have already said that I find that her acceptance is genuine. I accept that she and Mr Oliver are learning fast, learning as they go, and are on a steep learning curve. Mr Vobe stated they are truthful and reliable and I agree. "
"43. In so far as her recollection of her past is concerned, I prefer what Dr McClintock says about that on pp.8 and 9 of his report to what Dr Freedman has said in that respect. She has provided security and love for CJ ..
46. I make it plain, and I think everyone in this court is aware, that I agree with Dr Lucey that this is a difficult and finely balanced decision. I find also that Dr Lucey and Dr Freedman, for all their experience and qualifications, were hampered by the aunt failing to commit herself to the need for CJ to have therapy until as late as she did. Dr Lucey and Dr Freedman met the aunt and CJ in September and October 2004. Four months have passed, a long time in the life of CJ and a long time in the life of even a 21 year old.
47. In determining what is in the best interests of CJ, I balance, first of all, the care plan which will involve two further moves. It will involve distress to CJ who will, in effect, be removed from his aunt and the only social worker he knows and go into a totally strange family. He will be going to foster carers who are described by Mr Vobe, a very experienced guardian, as "probably good enough", plus a local authority support package and the absence of the trauma from the maternal family. Against that, I balance leaving CJ with his aunt. It is agreed that there has been no harm at present being done to CJ, who has settled down considerably at school and who loves his aunt and her family. I accept, as Miss de Zonie submitted, that I have to balance the unknown risk of moving CJ against the known risk of leaving CJ where he is. It is rare not to accept the recommendation of two experts such as Dr Freedman and Dr Lucey. I find that their opinions were formed before the aunt had accepted the need for CJ to have therapy, and as I said, she is young and learning fast. Mr Vobe's evidence was that there were risks in both cases, but it was his opinion that the risks of CJ remaining with the aunt were greater than removing CJ.
48. When I consider all the evidence and balance all the matters, I conclude that I disagree with Mr Vobe's final recommendations that the greater risk to CJ would be remaining with his aunt rather than approving the care plan."
"I, therefore, conclude, having done the balancing act I have to, and in considering all the evidence, that there are more risks than benefits to CJ in the long-term as well as in the short-term if I were to approve the care plan and make a care order. I, therefore, do not approve this care plan for CJ."
Analysis
"What I am saying is that we have indications, the most important of which is that your sister does not remember her childhood. We have indications that she suffered a traumatic childhood, and the fact that she does not remember it, does not wish to remember it, handicaps her in her care of children because she has an area of her experience that she has closed herself off do. I am not by any means saying that anyone who had a traumatic childhood cannot parent children. What I am saying is that it is a real problem for (your) sister that she has closed herself off to a part of her experience. That is what worries me."
Outcome
Lord Justice Thorpe