COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM WILLESDEN COUNTY COURT
(HIS HONOUR JUDGE RYLAND)
The Strand London |
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B e f o r e :
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AJMAL SHERIF | Petitioner | |
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JASMINA SHERIF | Respondent |
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Smith Bernal, 190 Fleet Street, London EC4A 2HD
Telephone 020 7421 4040
Official Shorthand Writers to the Court)
THE RESPONDENT WIFE appeared in person
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Crown Copyright ©
Wednesday 3 October 2001
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Your Honour, it is about the actual order itself. You did say previously -- I asked if I am to buy my order out which was agreed with Judge Ryland. It was calculated on the present valuation and the value was 235 --
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: There is nothing in the judgment of Judge Ryland to say you should have some right of pre-emption, is there?
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): It says in paragraph 4 of the order: "buying out Ajmal Sherif". But Mr Tiler has not written the order properly because Judge Ryland has agreed that I should be given three months -- that is why the property should be put on the market not later than September for me raise the money.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE:I see. But where do I find that in Judge Ryland's judgment that you should have three months to buy him out?
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): It is not in the judgment, but it was said at the end of the hearing and the judge agreed and Mr Tiler said --
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I see. So there were exchanges after judgment which have not been recorded? Is that right?
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): They must have been recorded, your Honour.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Yes, but they have not been transcribed?
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): That is right, your Honour, and the other side wanted me to sign the consent order for £60,000. If you take £233,000 off Preston Road if it is to be sold, minus £175,000 that I was given, that would make £60,000, your Honour. But the mistake I would also like to point out is that it is all fine if I do raise the money, but if my property is to be sold, actually Preston Road has probably gone up. So in that way if I am to receive only of £175,000, my husband would benefit on the increased value of both parties, your Honour. I would actually get again less, if you understand my point.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I do understand your point.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): I would get only 30 per cent. I would also like to say, your Honour, I wrote to Judge Ryland directly and warned him straight away after this mistake, and I also wrote to Judge Ryland saying that the order is wrong and I have never received a reply.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: No reply?
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Yes. I have been constantly writing with the help of the Citizens' Advice Bureau. They have seen the mistake and they helped me.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I will just ask Mr Tiler. We cannot go on indefinitely. Mr Tiler, what was the nature of the agreement for Mrs Sherif to buy out your client's interest?
MR TILER: My Lord, I cannot frankly remember. I have no note of it on my notebook.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): You wrote on a piece of paper and asked me to sign it for £60,000 after the hearing. Your Honour, he wanted me to sign a consent order.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Have you got the bit of paper?
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): No, I haven't taken it because he wrote that if I am not to raise the money --
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Have you got the bit of paper on your side?
MR TILER: No, my Lord.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Judge Ryland knows about it because he has agreed.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: We had better have a transcript of the exchanges after judgment, had we not?
MR TILER: It would be helpful, my Lord, yes.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: So you had better ask the transcribers for that.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): This is all they have given me, your Honour. In paragraph 4 of the order, your Honour, it says: "Jasmina Sherif buying Ajmal Sherif out".
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I see that.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): That is why he was giving me three months.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: That should have been recorded in this order. The nature of the agreement as to the wife buying out the husband should have been recorded on this order so that everybody knew where they stood.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Yes, that's right. That's what I asked for.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: The time within which and the price at which the wife's option ran.
MR TILER: My Lord, if that was part of the judge's order then that would be right, yes. I have a note of his order in my notebook. It simply does not record any such agreement, although if a transcript be needed --
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: It is obvious that there was such an intention because paragraph 4 demonstrates it.
MR TILER: Yes, my Lord, I can see that.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: You would not have drafted paragraph 4 as you did had you not been conscious of the lively possibility that Mrs Sherif would raise the money to buy him out.
MR TILER: My Lord, I follow that.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): I would just like to say, your Honour, that if I have not managed to raise the £60,000, I would like a new valuation of both properties because, as I explained to you, there will be a loss on the increased value --
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I have given an hour and three quarters to a case that should have taken me 20 minutes and there is another case waiting. That is as much as I can do in this fraught case today. You had better sort this out between you and if need be get in a mediator if you cannot negotiate.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): I tried to communicate with Mr Tiler after the hearing and he told me he does not want to talk to me. He returned my correspondence. He said he had nothing to do with him and he will never have any dealings with his client any more. Now we are back again. I am a litigant in person. I have no family here. I don't know what to do. They are trying to take me for a fool, your Honour. They know I suffer from depression and they are playing games with me. They won't listen to me. I have spent hours in the Citizens' Advice Bureau. These are the only people who help me. They can see the mistake. Mr Tiler completely ignores me if I write to him.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: There it is. You had better get a transcript of the exchange after judgment.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): I have borrowed the money for this judgment and it is not there. I don't know why.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: They have only given you the judgment. Mr Tiler, do you have a note of the exchanges after judgment?
MR TILER: My Lord, I have not.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: What about your instructing solicitor?
MR TILER: My Lord, I had no one there at the time to save costs -- only Mr Sherif came along with me.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Who are the solicitors instructing you?
MR TILER: Today, my Lord?
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Yes.
MR TILER: William Sturges.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I see. Were they instructing you before?
MR TILER: My Lord, yes.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I see. But they did not send anybody to the hearing?
MR TILER: It sometimes happens like that, my Lord.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): My Lord, he was not instructed. Counsel was not instructed by solicitors last time because I contacted myself the solicitors, Southall Wright, and was told that they had nothing to do with it.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: He says the firm of solicitors instructing him are called William Sturges & Co, in Ealing.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Sir, they were not instructed before.
MR TILER: Before the district judge, my Lord.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Are they on the record?
MR TILER: They should be on the record, my Lord, yes. Southall Wright, Legal Advice Centre, before the district judge, and William Sturges for the previous two hearings -- today's hearing and before the circuit judge.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: William Sturges?
MR TILER: My Lord, yes.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: (To the Associate) Are they on the record?
THE ASSOCIATE: My Lord, they are not on the record. I asked counsel this afternoon before we came in and he gave me the address of William Sturges.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Why are they not on the record?
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: You had better get them on the record quickly.
MR TILER: My Lord, yes -- if indeed they can be instructed by Mr Sherif after this hearing. I know that Mr Sherif wanted me to appear on his behalf through them for today only.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: The fact is that they have been on the record throughout.
MR TILER: Yes.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: If they want to come off the record, then they have to file notice of change.
MR TILER: Yes, my Lord.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: It is most unsatisfactory that they are the solicitors who are instructing you -- the solicitors who were instructing you in front of the judge and they have never come on the record.
MR TILER: My Lord, I cannot make it any clearer than I have.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Who is the partner dealing with it?
MR TILER: Mrs Lizra.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Will you convey to her a direction that she write to the court to explain why she is not on the record and to rectify whatever errors there are in this regard?
MR TILER: Yes, my Lord.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: (To the Associate) Would you kindly make a note to that effect?
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Your Honour, I would like to say that Mr Tiler was not instructed by solicitors at the hearing before Judge Ryland because he himself said to Judge Ryland, "I have only been instructed by Mr Sherif yesterday afternoon to attend the hearing." There was no mention of any solicitor. I wrote to Mr Tiler and he told me that he does not want to have further dealings with the case.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Mr Tiler is a member of the Bar. There is no point in writing to him. You have to write to the solicitors instructed.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): But there were no solicitors, your Honour. I wrote to Mr Tiler because he didn't have any solicitors.
MR TILER: My Lord, what Mrs Sherif means is that after the hearing before Judge Ryland she wrote to my at my chambers. My clerk replied to her that I could not help her because I was not acting for Mrs Sherif and could she therefore please write to Mr Sherif directly.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: Why did your clerk not say, "Write to William Sturges & Co, the firm who instructed Mr Tiler"?
MR TILER: The reason for that, my Lord, was because they were only instructing me for the purposes of that hearing. Mr Sherif acted on his own account as a litigant in person for all other occasions.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: It does not look very good, Mr Tiler.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): I have no one to write to, your Honour. I can't correspond with these people. They are ignoring me.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: You are now saying they are on the record?
MR TILER: My Lord, I know they sent a notice of acting for the purpose of today's hearing. I know it is not on the record, but things can happen like that sometimes. They cannot always find their way through. But they are instructing me today and that is all there is to it really.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: We also need a date in the order which has to be redrawn for the working out of Mrs Sherif's purchase, alternatively the sale. Now, the order was obviously intended to be three months. She was to have three months in which to achieve her purchase.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Yes, I would like to have that again, your Honour.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: So the date to go into paragraph 2 will therefore be -- we are now 3 October, so 3 January.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Your honour, if I can just say about the mistake of the order again which I wrote to Mr Tiler and to Judge Ryland? If I would decide that I cannot raise the money or the bank will turn me down, there should be a new valuation of both properties?
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: I am not going into that.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Because I would not receive my fair share of 40 per cent. I would lose that 40 per cent.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: So the essential variations to the order are for the date of 3 January 2002 to go into paragraph 2(a), and the sum of £152,000 to go into paragraph 2(c)(iii). That is as far as I can take it. As to the price at which you buy him out, which you say it is agreed at £60,000 --
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Yes, that is right, your Honour. It was written by Mr Tiler and he asked me to sign.
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: That ought to go into paragraph 4.
THE APPLICANT (MR SHERIF): That is not true, your Honour.
THE APPLICANT (MRS SHERIF): Your Honour --
LORD JUSTICE THORPE: That is enough.