IN THE COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM KINGSTON-UPON-HULL COUNTY COURT
(His Honour Judge Bowers)
Strand London WC2 Thursday, 12th July 2001 |
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B e f o r e :
LORD JUSTICE LAWS
SIR MARTIN NOURSE
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CHIEF CONSTABLE OF HUMBERSIDE POLICE | Appellant | |
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ROBERT MCQUADE | Respondent |
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Branch, Legal Services Unit, Police Headquarters, Queen's Gardens, Hull, HU1 3DJ) appeared on behalf of the Appellant.
MR PHILLIP HAVERS QC acting Pro Bono (Instructed by Kingsley Knapley, Knights Quarter, 14 St John's Lane,
London, EC1M 4AJ on behalf of the RCJ Advice Bureau) appeared on behalf of the Respondent.
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Thursday, 12th July 2000
"It is fairly obvious from what Glidewell LJ said that they" [that is the Lord Justices] "would not, and they did not, consider there was any need for an outside member of the public to be involved in order to entitle a person's arrest and, as I understand it, the decision seems to be that in law it is possible to have a breach of the peace on private premises without any legal requirement that there must be some involvement of the public as a matter of law; but as a matter of evidence and pragmatism, which both Purchas LJ and Glidewell LJ say, the question of whether there were reasonable grounds to apprehend a breach of the peace must involve the overspill, in my judgment, of the domestic dispute beyond the bounds of the property of which it is being held, otherwise I cannot see any reason whatsoever why, for example, Purchas LJ says:
`Clearly a purely domestic dispute will rarely amount to a breach of the peace. But, in exceptional circumstances, it might very well do so. Whether those particular circumstances which come to pass on private premises are sufficient to support a reasonable apprehension that a breach of the peace was about to occur will depend upon the circumstances in which the preventive steps ... are taken.'
So as a bold matter, and bald matter of law, he was saying it can take place on private premises, but, in my judgment, it is clear from the obiter remarks of him and Glidewell LJ that the assessment of whether there were reasonable grounds to apprehend a breach of the peace means that the definition of the breach of the peace has to spill over beyond just Mrs. McQuade in this case, and there has to be some apprehension that it would in some way disturb the public, either in the sense that the violence to Mrs McQuade was overheard, or they were likely to become involved in it."
"... an assault on private land I do not think amounts to breach of the peace, and I think that is the difference. That is what I have said and that is the way I rule."
21A:
"... it seems to me that the breach of the peace aspect is not just personal violence within a home, I think there has got to be an element to justify the reasonable grounds for a breach of the peace, and I think the definition of the breach of the peace does..."
the transcript includes the word "not" with a question mark, but I think the negative is rightly omitted,
"... does involve some external or some involvement of other members of the public."
"... I have decided that there is essentially a public aspect to a breach of the peace, and that it does involve violence, or the threat of violence, but there has got to be a public dimension to that, even if it is simply a question of either being overheard, observed or the violence overspilling out of the house. Now, it is strictly possible, therefore, to have a breach of the peace within a house, but, in my judgment, and this is why I have been going through the authorities, there has to be some effect outside the two people within their private home. A breach of the peace is really a breach of the Queen's peace, which runs for the benefit of all of us in the public.
Now, a police officer can arrest somebody if they honestly believe there is going to be a breach of the peace, and if that belief is based on reasonable grounds, but I have decided, and this is why it really takes this case out of your hands altogether, that a simple risk of an assault within the house, which is what PC Connolly said, is not enough to justify arresting for breach of the peace, that is the point."
"What she made was, on my ruling, a mistake as to the legal position as to the understanding what a breach of the peace is ..." [transcript 1D].
(1) PC Connolly made no inquiry whatever as to whether there had in fact been any violence before the police arrived;
(2) there was nothing, save perhaps for the blood on the respondent's face, to suggest there had already been a breach of the peace; and
(3)both the respondent and his wife gave evidence to the effect that the argument between them was over and there had been no violence while it had been going on.
"We entertain no doubt that a constable has a power of arrest where there is reasonable apprehension of imminent danger of a breach of the peace, so for that matter has the ordinary citizen ... . We hold that there is power of arrest for breach of the peace where:
(1) a breach of the peace is committed in the presence of the person making the arrest or
(2) the arrestor reasonably believes that such a breach will be committed in the immediate future by the person arrested although he has not yet committed any breach or
(3) where a breach has been committed and it is reasonably believed that a renewal of it is threatened."
"We are emboldened to say that there is a breach of the peace whenever harm is actually done or is likely to be done to a person or in his presence to his property or a person is in fear of being so harmed through an assault, an affray, a riot, unlawful assembly or other disturbance. It is for this breach of the peace when done in his presence or the reasonable apprehension of it taking place that a constable, or anyone else, may arrest an offender without a warrant."
"The plaintiff entered a store manager's office and refused to leave when asked to do so by the store manager. The police were called and a police constable escorted the plaintiff outside. When the plaintiff attempted to re-enter the store the constable, purporting to exercise his common law power of arrest, arrested him on suspicion that he was guilty of conduct whereby a breach of the peace might be occasioned, or that such a breach of the peace might take place if the plaintiff was allowed to re-enter."
"Held, dismissing the appeal, that a breach of the peace could take place on private premises even though the disturbance was confined only to the persons immediately involved in the altercation if a member of the public was likely to be disturbed; that the question whether any member of the public was likely to be affected by the disturbance was a matter of fact which had to be decided according to the evidence, and not as a matter of law; and that, accordingly, the judge's conclusion on the preliminary ruling was correct."
"Mr Scholes' main argument is more wide-ranging. He submits that, in order for there to be a breach of the peace on private premises, the authorities justify the proposition that it is necessary to find some disturbance which would affect members of the public, or at least one other person, outside the premises themselves. If the only people who are disturbed in any way are those inside the premises, those immediately concerned in the altercation, then there is no breach of the peace, he submits. During argument, I asked him to seek to distinguish a case of an abusive altercation arising between two people in an isolated house from a similar altercation arising between the same two people in a terrace house with thin walls and neighbours who could hear everything that was going on. Mr Scholes agreed that the logic of his argument meant that in the latter case there would be a breach of the peace, whereas in the former there would not. That, in my view, cannot be a very sound basis upon which to find the limits of this particular jurisdiction.
In my judgment, there is no warrant for this restriction on the bounds of what may constitute a breach of the peace for the purposes of entitling a police officer, who genuinely suspects on good grounds that a breach of the peace may occur, to make an arrest. The authorities do not provide any warrant for that. Indeed, if Mr Scholes' submissions are correct, the answer which the judge should have given to the question posed was not `No. A breach of the peace may not take place on private premises,' which is the answer, I take it, the plaintiff really desires, but `Yes. A breach of the peace may take place on private premises but only in defined circumstances, namely if a member or members of the public are likely to be disturbed.' Further than that, I accept that the effect on the public may be relevant in this situation. For instance, if abusive words are spoken during the course of a public gathering or a public meeting, it may much more readily result in a breach of the peace than if precisely the same words are spoken in a private place between two persons. Thus, the question whether or not any large number of members of the public are or not likely to be involved or to overhear the words is one which, as a matter of fact, may be very relevant to the magistrates' decision. But, as a matter of law, for the reasons I have sought to give, in my view, the judge came to an entirely right conclusion. I would, therefore, dismiss the appeal."
"The difficulty with Mr Scholes' submission, even with the qualification for which he contends, is that whether or not there is established a threat of disturbance to a third party brings obvious difficulties particularly when the case involves conduct which might involve a breach of the peace, rather than conduct which has constituted such a breach. Once it is accepted that a breach of the peace can take place on private premises, then to attempt to place some qualification on it as a matter of law rather than as a matter of evidential approach and examination, is, in my judgment, very undesirable and would only hamper this broad approach, which has been well recognised since the 14th century and has recently been defined in Reg. v. Howell (Errol) [1982] Q.B. 415.
For those reasons and for the reasons given by Glidewell L.J. I agree that this appeal fails."
"... the valuable protection which is so frequently given by the police who in the course of their duties become embroiled in the unreasonable domestic disputes of others in which their help proves invaluable in preventing violence."
"I accept it" [that is arrest for breach of the peace] "is a possible result under the law as it has evolved to prevent breach of the peace. But I would hope that only in the rarest cases would domestic dispute and the rights of occupation of the matrimonial home be subject to the breach of the peace regime."
"... a purely domestic dispute will rarely amount to a breach of the peace. But, in exceptional circumstances, it might very well do so."
"As the question of committing public order offences in a dwelling has been considered and legislated upon by Parliament, the remaining common law offence of breach of the peace should be set against the legislative restraints of other offences against the Queen's peace which are codified."